William Wilberforce: Abolition Speech 1787

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[00:00:58] This is Troy Angel and you are listening to Revived Thoughts.

[00:01:09] When these reflections press upon my mind, it is impossible for me to not feel both terrified and concerned at my own inadequacy to such a task.

[00:01:20] Every episode we bring you a different voice from history in a sermon that they delivered today.

[00:01:26] We got another William Wilberforce sermon coming to us from the year 1787.

[00:01:33] Troy, Troy Frazier. How are you doing over there?

[00:01:37] My man, it has been a hot second. It doesn't feel that long.

[00:01:41] I feel like I've been around you because I keep seeing your face on our social media.

[00:01:46] You've been blowing up our social media with some grade A interesting content over there.

[00:01:53] I really appreciate that, Joel.

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[00:03:43] I will say, I just want to make one quick correction right off the top.

[00:03:46] Joel said another William Wilberforce.

[00:03:48] But I must say, this is actually our first ever William Wilberforce episode.

[00:03:52] Oh, that's right.

[00:03:53] So he's been featured by name, I guess.

[00:03:58] But we have a woman had an actual speech by him, I guess.

[00:04:01] We've talked about him and his friendship with John Newton.

[00:04:03] And that's why it felt like he was here before.

[00:04:06] But I just wanted to make sure so nobody goes and pulls up their feet and goes, wait, where's the other one?

[00:04:10] Where's the other Wilberforce?

[00:04:10] This is the first one.

[00:04:11] And that's why I wanted this to be our first episode back too, because I think it's a great speech.

[00:04:15] And I just think William Wilberforce is a pretty cool guy as well.

[00:04:19] Before we jump all into that, Joel, did you have a nice time too?

[00:04:22] A nice break?

[00:04:23] I know you were traveling.

[00:04:25] I did.

[00:04:25] Yep.

[00:04:26] Yep.

[00:04:26] Traveled one trip and I'm in a downtime now until I travel for another trip upcoming.

[00:04:33] So it's a time to get editing done and get things charged back up and make some podcasting with you, which is exciting.

[00:04:41] Troy, for also those who may be following you guys on social media, we see that your wife, your poor poor wife, broke her foot in a very vigorous game of badminton, was it?

[00:04:55] I'd love to say it was vigorous, but it was very gentle and it was just an offshoot.

[00:04:59] And my poor wife just slipped on a little ledge there playing with the kids and broke her foot.

[00:05:05] And it's been a bummer.

[00:05:06] I could tell you a myriad of ways it's not good to have a broken foot in Indonesia, from the fact that all the floors everywhere, everywhere are tile.

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[00:06:34] But yeah, that was not what we planned.

[00:06:37] But the Lord had his own plans.

[00:06:38] And we have seen some good things come from it, even though it was not necessarily what we were certainly hoping to wrap up the summer with.

[00:06:48] Maybe, you know, maybe a side effect would be she'll have a lot more time to record Martyrs and Missionaries now, huh?

[00:06:57] If you're a Martyrs and Missionaries listener.

[00:06:58] I'm sure that's probably the last thing on her mind.

[00:07:00] Well, actually, no.

[00:07:02] She finished one episode on Rush Up.

[00:07:04] Man, that came out like a couple weeks ago.

[00:07:06] I'd never heard of the guy that she did.

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[00:08:58] Charlie, do you want to talk about Wilberforce?

[00:09:00] Wilberforce.

[00:09:02] William Wilberforce.

[00:09:03] Let's get on with William Wilberforce.

[00:09:06] Wilberforce is one of the guys that like, kind of makes me proud to be a Christian in some ways.

[00:09:11] You know, like when you look at, he's one of the examples you can pluck out when people say like, why is Christianity good for humanity?

[00:09:20] Yeah.

[00:09:20] You know, like there are those key figures and Wilber, well, I mean, a lot of people involved with the abolition movement.

[00:09:27] I mean, pretty much all of them were religiously motivated by their convictions.

[00:09:32] And if we didn't have those people, who knows what the world would look like today.

[00:09:36] But Wilberforce, of course, a key player in championing and helping pass anti-slavery acts during his political tenure.

[00:09:48] It is kind of neat to see how he has contributed towards Christian morals overall on a humanitarian level.

[00:09:56] You know, I agree.

[00:09:58] I feel like he's one of those people, too, that non-Christians and Christians kind of know his story and know his name.

[00:10:03] You know, when you have the angry anti-God person saying something like, oh, Christianity has never done, religion has never done anything good for the world.

[00:10:12] And you can go, well, actually, you know, if you know the story of William Wilberforce.

[00:10:16] That's why it's interesting to me a lot of times today, history books, I say this as somebody who has to teach history, will try to kind of erase this side of it.

[00:10:24] That abolition was just this thing that spring out of nowhere.

[00:10:26] And if you take away the Christians from the abolitionist movement, you don't have an abolitionist movement anymore.

[00:10:32] It is a fundamentally a group of people who love Jesus, who looked around and saw something bad happening.

[00:10:38] And William Wilberforce and his mentor, John Newton, are the tip of that sphere.

[00:10:42] Yeah.

[00:10:43] Yeah.

[00:10:43] And you mentioned John Newton.

[00:10:45] Now, a few times in this episode, he will come back around in the story because he is a key part of Wilberforce's life.

[00:10:51] And also someone that we've done a sermon with in previous episodes.

[00:10:55] But William Wilberforce, born in the year 1759 from a somewhat wealthy family.

[00:11:02] His grandfather was the mayor of the city he lives in.

[00:11:06] So he's kind of inherited a little bit of a prestigious claim to his name there.

[00:11:12] His family were wealthy merchants.

[00:11:14] But Wilberforce himself was a challenged child.

[00:11:21] The quote we have describing him as a child is that he was a small, sickly and delicate child with poor eyesight.

[00:11:29] Which, that poor eyesight part I can relate with because I, ever since I was a child, I had very poor eyesight as well.

[00:11:36] Wasn't too sickly, but couldn't see anything.

[00:11:40] So that man, that resonates with me.

[00:11:42] It's just one of those lines that you really, I don't know that I'd want that in history books about me.

[00:11:46] You know what I mean?

[00:11:46] Right.

[00:11:46] When people first look me up, they're like, what kind of kid was he?

[00:11:49] A poor, sickly, you know, like a small, sickly and delicate child with poor eyesight.

[00:11:53] Oh, ouch, thanks.

[00:11:55] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:55] Not a glowing review from the people around him, I suppose.

[00:11:59] When he was 10 years old, he was sent off to a Christian school.

[00:12:05] And, you know, some people often comment, you know, so this is the late 1700s.

[00:12:10] People say, well, weren't all schools Christian back then?

[00:12:13] And kind of, sort of.

[00:12:17] You know, they had their own flavors of Christian, much like we have today as well.

[00:12:23] But there were quite a bit of controversies within the school.

[00:12:27] This is the same era, we did an episode on John McGowan, who was actually thrown out of a Christian school around this time because of his beliefs.

[00:12:35] And so this is England.

[00:12:37] And so this is, there's a lot of, the Church of England is running most of the schools.

[00:12:41] There are other, they wouldn't be called Puritan schools.

[00:12:45] What would be?

[00:12:46] At this point, the phrase I saw that he referred to as evangelical.

[00:12:51] Evangelicals, wow.

[00:12:52] Not a new word.

[00:12:54] You know, it's been around a hot second that evangelical word.

[00:12:57] Schools that, that's what he would have been a part of.

[00:13:00] An evangelical school back in this era.

[00:13:03] Not a Church of England type school that he probably would have gotten kicked out of.

[00:13:07] And it was at this school that he met a teacher called Joseph Melner.

[00:13:12] And Joseph became quite a mentor in his life, a lifelong friend.

[00:13:17] He would end up writing some church history books himself and kind of give Wilberforce a lot of guidance and encouragement on his journey there.

[00:13:29] But the person that certainly had the most impact on his life was the pastor of his church that his family went to growing up.

[00:13:36] And, you know, at this era and this time, it was a small church, you know, a little local church pastored by John Newton.

[00:13:44] And John Newton would rise to quite prominence throughout his lifetime.

[00:13:49] And, but here at the beginning, you know, at the beginning chapters of these people's lives, John Newton is a small town pastor that is, that Wilberforce's family, they attended his church there.

[00:14:02] And Wilberforce is having these things introduced by his mentor, his teacher, these concepts of theology.

[00:14:09] And as we'll see, politics become an interest of his.

[00:14:14] Yeah, I really love that emphasis, Joel, on just remember, they're not famous yet.

[00:14:19] It's so easy to read these stories and see them cross over with other famous or important people in church history and think to yourself, they've always been famous and important people.

[00:14:28] But when John and Charles Wesley met George Whitefield, they were just friends.

[00:14:33] That's when, you know, Martin Luther met some of the people he would work with later on.

[00:14:38] They were, they didn't know they were going to be who they were someday to church history.

[00:14:42] And when John Newton was preaching and had this wealthy family come in on the summer holidays, and one of them had a young, you know, man in his teenage years named William, he didn't know that he was teaching the future man he would team up with to help do great things for the world.

[00:14:58] For him, it was, I'm preaching this sermon, and these are some of my people, and these are this family that comes in and travels in on the summers, and I'm going to share the gospel with them.

[00:15:07] Now, like you said, John Newton becomes famous.

[00:15:09] One of the reasons we know his name today, probably the reason you know his name today, is for the hymn Amazing Grace, which he wrote and had a different name for it at the time.

[00:15:19] We actually have the sermon that preceded that.

[00:15:22] Like, he wrote a sermon attached to that song, and we did it very early on in our history.

[00:15:26] But John Newton is famous for that.

[00:15:28] We've covered him several times on the show, so I think you should go check him out.

[00:15:31] And to be honest, we should probably cover him again.

[00:15:32] He's a great guy.

[00:15:33] By the time, Wilberforce was just a kid coming in on the summers, and he was reaching out to his family and trying to mentor them the best he could.

[00:15:40] But who knows how often the pastor even talked to him.

[00:15:42] I'm sure he talked to him a bit, but who knows how much he even was interacting directly with them oftentimes, right?

[00:15:47] You talk to their parents, maybe.

[00:15:48] But he always remembered Newton's preaching and the powerful testimony Newton had of being a former slave trader himself and how Christ had turned him around.

[00:15:56] But at this moment, neither of them are famous.

[00:15:58] Newton's amazing grace is not well known or anything to the world, and Wilberforce is still young.

[00:16:04] It seemed for a while Wilberforce was really interested in God, but his family was worried he would become a Methodist.

[00:16:09] So they pulled him out of that good Christian school and sent him to an Anglican school that was run by more of a government school, and it was very dead.

[00:16:19] There was nothing happening there of any kind of godly interest.

[00:16:23] His religious interest and fervor completely diminished until it was pretty much gone.

[00:16:28] And he ended up slowly getting into the same worldly things that all his friends were.

[00:16:32] You know how it is?

[00:16:33] Same things that we have trouble with kids today.

[00:16:35] How do we educate them in a place that will grow their faith is the same stuff going on back then.

[00:16:40] Wilberforce was, I think, very interesting.

[00:16:42] He's kind of unique.

[00:16:43] So I feel like so many of the people we follow on this show, it's like he then studied every language known to man and won all these awards.

[00:16:51] And his first essay was considered, you know, a world bestseller.

[00:16:54] Not at all.

[00:16:56] Wilberforce was very popular.

[00:16:57] He liked everyone and he hated studying.

[00:17:00] But despite hating studying, he managed to pass extremely challenging exams and get all his degrees at the same time that usually required people intense amounts of studying.

[00:17:09] But he didn't really care.

[00:17:10] He was more interested in having like a fun party life.

[00:17:14] He was a famous party guy.

[00:17:16] He loved to sing.

[00:17:17] He loved to be like that star center of attention.

[00:17:19] He was a, and he was a very good speaker.

[00:17:21] One person who saw him speaking during this era said, quote, I saw what seemed a mere shrimp get up on the table.

[00:17:28] But as I listened, that shrimp grew and grew until he had become a whale.

[00:17:32] I don't think he means that he was fat.

[00:17:34] I think he was saying like that's the impact he had on him.

[00:17:36] What looked like a normal little nobody.

[00:17:38] He could speak.

[00:17:40] This eventually led him into a career in politics.

[00:17:43] Again, so many of the people we cover on the show, it's, you know, right to that first church.

[00:17:46] Not William Wilberforce.

[00:17:47] He will not go directly into ministry like so many of the other people we have.

[00:17:51] But he does go into politics, another place where you need to be able to speak.

[00:17:57] And even though he was young, he made himself, he got into and became a member of parliament.

[00:18:01] But despite all this fun, he said his life kind of felt empty, which I think is a little crazy because he was living in his 20s.

[00:18:08] A young man and would be living what I think you would call, you know, quote, the life.

[00:18:13] Like this is, he was meeting celebrities.

[00:18:15] He went on a six-week trip to Paris.

[00:18:17] He met King Louis.

[00:18:19] He met some of the great generals like General Lafayette.

[00:18:22] He met Benjamin Franklin when he was super popular in Europe.

[00:18:26] And you may be thinking, okay, he met like a bunch of old people.

[00:18:28] No, but like these guys were celebrities in their day.

[00:18:30] They didn't have, you know, Taylor Swift traveling.

[00:18:33] Like they had people like Benjamin Franklin and stuff like that.

[00:18:35] And he was meeting them and eating with them and hanging out with them.

[00:18:38] At one point, the French royal court invites them to like their summer house to spend the summer.

[00:18:43] He's chumming it with the 1700s version of all the big names.

[00:18:47] And his friend that he went on this trip with, when they get back to England, he becomes England's next prime minister.

[00:18:53] So that gives you an idea of just how close he is in powerful people and positions.

[00:18:58] And it gives you an idea of just how close he is with famous and important people.

[00:19:03] But he said, my life still feels empty.

[00:19:05] Yeah, so when he returned from this, his convictions, you know, let him to, I really need to start taking this seriously.

[00:19:12] I really need to get into the word of God, see what God is doing here.

[00:19:15] And so he talks about getting up extra early to read his Bible and to pray.

[00:19:21] And to me, that's how I know someone takes it seriously because I am not a morning person.

[00:19:26] Morning time.

[00:19:27] It has to be really important to me if I'm going to get up early to do something.

[00:19:31] Because it is a struggle for real.

[00:19:33] That's what he does, though.

[00:19:35] He gets up extra early, reads his Bible, he prays, and the Lord starts changing him outwardly.

[00:19:42] You know, he was the same popular, fun guy to be around.

[00:19:45] But inside, he felt like he could no longer do this.

[00:19:49] He could no longer go to the gambling halls.

[00:19:51] He could no longer go to the dances.

[00:19:53] And he sought spiritual advice from his old pastor, John Newton, and talked about his convictions.

[00:20:00] And he talked about how he doesn't feel like maybe, you know, politics is right for him.

[00:20:06] You know, there's so much corruption and selfishness and issues that go into politics

[00:20:13] that it's probably not right for the believer to be in.

[00:20:18] Seemed to be his convictions to where I should get out of politics and do something that's more honoring with my life.

[00:20:24] And it's his pastor, John Newton, that encouraged him.

[00:20:29] Hey, I think God has a plan for this.

[00:20:32] I think God has a plan for you in politics.

[00:20:34] I think you should stay in politics.

[00:20:36] And I think God's going to use that.

[00:20:37] And so with that advice, it changed his mind.

[00:20:43] And he thought, okay, let's do this.

[00:20:45] So he started a path that would end up in him being a lifelong politician, but one that has Christian ethics.

[00:20:56] And as you can imagine, this did not make him very popular.

[00:21:00] Progressives didn't trust him because of his outward faith.

[00:21:03] They would call him radical.

[00:21:04] And many in England just didn't trust him flat out because he was in what he described as evangelical,

[00:21:12] not an Anglican, which was the state religion there at the time.

[00:21:16] So he's not the popular denomination of Christianity.

[00:21:21] And he is a very outspoken public Christian in the way that he conducts his politics.

[00:21:28] So I'm sure you can imagine, yeah, that not being the best middle ground for politics.

[00:21:36] But that was a non-negotiable for him.

[00:21:40] That's what he was going to die on.

[00:21:42] Despite all of this, he still wanted to use his position to influence others for Christ.

[00:21:48] And he did this in many ways, but the biggest one that we know of today and what he's certainly most remembered for is taking his fight to a parliament, essentially, regarding slave trade.

[00:22:04] Yeah.

[00:22:05] Now, by the way, I just want to throw one of the weird ones out there that if you want to hear one of the other strange –

[00:22:11] like, so he tried to really live out his faith.

[00:22:13] Before we jump into the slave trade, one of the laws that he pushed to help pass was that whenever the government executed like a really bad criminal,

[00:22:21] doctors could use that body to, like, you know, do, like, practice surgery and stuff on.

[00:22:27] Because doctors needed, like, those kind of bodies to be able to work on.

[00:22:30] But England wanted everyone to be buried properly in a Christian way, as they would say.

[00:22:35] And so they had no bodies to work on.

[00:22:38] And so these doctors had no practice with surgery before they were doing surgery on people back then.

[00:22:43] And one of the ways you learned how to do it was through dead bodies.

[00:22:47] And so William Wilberforce was like, hey, government, why don't we help our doctors and our people get better medical care by allowing these people who are dying to be the people?

[00:22:56] Anyway, that's such a random one, but it's such a weird – I don't know.

[00:22:59] To me, I was like, that is so weird.

[00:23:01] But it wasn't just the slave trade.

[00:23:04] That's what he's famous for.

[00:23:05] But there were a bunch of little things like that he was trying to do.

[00:23:07] He was really trying to make the life of the people better and come up with solutions to problems that we don't even, like, can't even comprehend problems like that today.

[00:23:17] But the one that obviously made the biggest impact that we're still thankful for and for today was the slave trade.

[00:23:21] And you may be familiar with the story, but it's important to realize, I think, when we hear this story maybe many times or maybe this is the first time you've ever heard of it, it was a real David and Goliath story.

[00:23:31] The slave trade was lining the pockets of many and many of Britain's politicians.

[00:23:35] To oppose it was crazy.

[00:23:37] Britain was huge and powerful.

[00:23:39] And one of the reasons they thought that they had become so powerful, at least everyone believed, was the slave trade.

[00:23:45] And most people just had no idea what it meant to be a part of the slave trade or any of that.

[00:23:51] They just assumed it was something they did.

[00:23:53] Maybe it was kind of yucky, but you didn't talk about it.

[00:23:55] Don't bring that up in polite company, right?

[00:23:57] That's not the kind of thing you ever want to bring up.

[00:24:00] You know, don't bring it up at the party or the dinner.

[00:24:02] That's going to make everyone feel uncomfortable.

[00:24:04] So the average person really just didn't think about it and didn't know what it was.

[00:24:07] In many ways, Wilberforce and Newton, who will team up with him, pioneered how to change society for the better without force.

[00:24:14] They educated the public with pamphlets and they gave speeches everywhere.

[00:24:18] And they constantly kept bringing up the same issue over and over again.

[00:24:21] Slavery is bad.

[00:24:22] Do you know what these slaves are going through?

[00:24:23] Do you know what we're doing to get these slaves?

[00:24:25] Do you know what it's like to transport these slaves?

[00:24:28] John Newton, who was a former slave trader, would give examples and explain what life was like on the boats.

[00:24:34] And the people were shocked and horrified that was going on.

[00:24:37] Their government was allowing it and that their British citizens were making money off of it.

[00:24:42] They just, they didn't know truly what was going on.

[00:24:45] And as they kept pushing and pushing the education of this issue, slowly over time, but not all at once,

[00:24:53] they did begin to change public opinion.

[00:24:55] And slowly that began to put pressure on politicians to quit voting with what the slave traders wanted.

[00:25:02] If you realize how bad something is, you don't want your politician to vote for it.

[00:25:07] And you're going to ask her and say, I don't want to vote for you if you're going to vote for that kind of thing.

[00:25:12] And that slowly, very, I mean, over the course of decades began to make a difference.

[00:25:17] And something else he did that is not nearly as well remembered today, nobody really talks about this,

[00:25:22] is he wrote a book called Practical Christianity.

[00:25:25] Now, he felt called by God to explain how his Christian beliefs should logically influence our lives.

[00:25:30] He believed he was surrounded by people who claimed Christianity, claimed Christ, and they would go to church.

[00:25:36] But then when they lived their day-to-day lives, none of that stuff actually applied to life.

[00:25:41] And this book was not seen as a good idea.

[00:25:44] Literally, the publishers didn't even want to publish it.

[00:25:46] And they had so many people told him, don't do this.

[00:25:48] This is a stupid idea.

[00:25:50] You're already in hot water for going against the slave traders.

[00:25:52] You're already pushing boundaries.

[00:25:54] Why would you write a book?

[00:25:55] You're a politician, and you want to write basically a theological book,

[00:26:00] and one that will be very controversial, and will put a lot of attention on the fact that you're not Anglican,

[00:26:05] but that you're evangelical.

[00:26:06] Why don't you let the pastors write books like this?

[00:26:09] You should stay in your lane.

[00:26:10] Everyone was basically like, whatever you write in there,

[00:26:13] if you don't end up getting skewered for its theology being bad,

[00:26:17] you're only going to be getting a bigger target by a politician writing a theologian kind of book,

[00:26:22] will only cost you votes.

[00:26:24] But he published it anyway.

[00:26:26] He felt like God was saying, I got to make this book and tell people about how they should live out their Christianity.

[00:26:31] He thought it would help get people to do it and to live out their faith in practical ways.

[00:26:35] He believed the reason we can't change Britain's slave trade

[00:26:38] is partially because we're surrounded by a bunch of people who don't live out their faith.

[00:26:43] So we have to get the people to start living out their faith

[00:26:46] before they're going to care about the British slave trade.

[00:26:51] Despite all the pressure against it,

[00:26:52] the book immediately sold out and immediately became a bestseller.

[00:26:57] No one had heard Christianity being described at that time in the early 1800s and late 1700s,

[00:27:03] the way he was describing it.

[00:27:04] And the idea that you're not supposed to just think the right thoughts about Jesus and go to church,

[00:27:08] but you're supposed to let that apply to the rest of your life.

[00:27:11] The way he wrote it down, the way he was so straightforward,

[00:27:14] it shocked everybody.

[00:27:15] And it was a little bit convicting too.

[00:27:17] If a politician, those guys are supposed to be dirty bad guys, right?

[00:27:21] You take bribes and all that kind of stuff.

[00:27:22] If they're writing, if he can write a book that convicts me this bad,

[00:27:27] I've really got to step up my game, right?

[00:27:29] It's a little embarrassing with the,

[00:27:30] if the politicians are writing better theological books than everyone else is.

[00:27:34] And it would be considered a bestseller, top bestseller book for the next 50 years after it was published.

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[00:29:08] Very clear that Wilberforce was addicted to opioids from what we can see.

[00:29:15] You know, he was prescribed some for some injury at some point.

[00:29:19] And as far as we can tell, it seemed to be something that he couldn't shake.

[00:29:23] And very well may have had it the rest of his life.

[00:29:28] We don't see any evidence that he ever stopped sourcing opioid sources throughout the rest of his life.

[00:29:37] Which is, you know, I think it's interesting to see that here we are over 250 years ago.

[00:29:44] And prescription drug addiction is still, it was still just as much of a thing back then as it is today.

[00:29:51] And, you know, maybe that can be an encouragement to somebody out there knowing that they're not alone.

[00:29:55] And that other people have gone through this as well.

[00:29:59] But despite that, he still had an incredible impact on the world.

[00:30:03] That's still felt to this day.

[00:30:06] Him and John Newton, you know, again, even from a secular standpoint,

[00:30:11] can very clearly, evidently, objectively be identified with ending the slave trade.

[00:30:17] And they gave that example, that model, to the world for all of us to see.

[00:30:22] This speech that we're going to listen to here was one of his very early on ones in his political career.

[00:30:28] Where he was calling to end slavery.

[00:30:31] But this, I mean, this would have been at a time where support for abolition was unheard of.

[00:30:35] He was championing this idea.

[00:30:38] And slowly, it would, the idea would take root.

[00:30:41] And it would grow and it would form into the abolition movement.

[00:30:46] But at this time, imagine the amount of courage it would take to get up before the House of Commons

[00:30:51] and preach this speech to this political body when you knew that everyone was against you.

[00:31:14] When I consider the magnitude of the subject which I am to bring before the House,

[00:31:18] a subject in which the interests, not of this country, nor of Europe alone,

[00:31:23] but of the whole world and of posterity are involved.

[00:31:27] And when I think at the same time on the weakness of the Advocate who has undertaken this great cause,

[00:31:32] when these reflections press upon my mind,

[00:31:35] it is impossible for me to not feel both terrified and concerned at my own inadequacy to such a task.

[00:31:42] But when I reflect, however, on the encouragement which I have had,

[00:31:47] through the whole course of a long and laborious examination of this question,

[00:31:51] and how much candor I have experienced,

[00:31:54] and how conviction has increased within my own mind,

[00:31:57] in proportion as I have advanced in my labors,

[00:32:01] when I reflect, especially, that however averse any gentleman may now be,

[00:32:06] yet we will all be of one opinion in the end,

[00:32:10] when I turn myself to these thoughts, I take courage,

[00:32:13] I determine to forget all my other fears,

[00:32:16] and I march forward with a firmer step in the full assurance that my cause will bear me out,

[00:32:21] and I shall be able to justify upon the clearest principles every resolution in my hand,

[00:32:26] the avowed end of which is the total abolition of the slave trade.

[00:32:32] I wish exceedingly, in the outset,

[00:32:35] to guard both myself and the house from entering into the subject with any sort of passion.

[00:32:41] It's not their passions I shall appeal to.

[00:32:43] I ask only for their cool and impartial reason,

[00:32:47] and I wish not to take them by surprise,

[00:32:50] but to deliberate, point by point, upon every part of this question.

[00:32:54] I mean not to accuse anyone,

[00:32:57] but to take the shame upon myself,

[00:32:59] in common, indeed,

[00:33:01] with the whole Parliament of Great Britain,

[00:33:03] for having suffered this horrid trade to be carried on under their authority,

[00:33:07] we are all guilty.

[00:33:09] We ought all to plead guilty,

[00:33:12] and not to excuse ourselves by throwing the blame on others,

[00:33:15] and I therefore deprecate every kind of reflection

[00:33:19] against the various descriptions of people

[00:33:21] who are more immediately involved in this wretched business.

[00:33:25] Having now disposed of the first part of this subject,

[00:33:28] I must speak of the transit of the slaves in the West Indies.

[00:33:32] This, I confess, is my own opinion,

[00:33:36] is the most wretched part of the whole subject.

[00:33:39] So much misery condensed in so little room

[00:33:42] is more than the human imagination had ever before conceived.

[00:33:46] I will not accuse the Liverpool merchants.

[00:33:49] I will allow them,

[00:33:51] no, I will believe them to be men of humanity,

[00:33:54] and I will therefore believe,

[00:33:56] if it were not for the enormous magnitude

[00:33:58] and extent of the evil

[00:33:59] which distracts their attention from individual cases

[00:34:02] and makes them think generally

[00:34:04] and therefore less feelingly on the subject,

[00:34:07] they would never have persisted in the trade.

[00:34:09] I truly believe, therefore,

[00:34:11] if the wretchedness of any one

[00:34:13] of the many hundred Africans

[00:34:15] stowed in each ship

[00:34:16] could be brought before their view

[00:34:18] and remain within the sight of the African merchant,

[00:34:21] that there is not one among them

[00:34:23] whose heart would bear it.

[00:34:24] Let anyone imagine to himself

[00:34:27] six or seven hundred of these wretches

[00:34:30] chained, two and two,

[00:34:32] surrounded with every object

[00:34:34] that is nauseous and disgusting,

[00:34:37] diseased and struggling

[00:34:38] under every kind of wretchedness.

[00:34:40] How can we bear to think

[00:34:43] of such a scene as this?

[00:34:46] One would think it had been determined

[00:34:48] to heap upon them

[00:34:49] all the types of bodily pain

[00:34:51] for the purpose of blunting

[00:34:52] the feelings of the mind,

[00:34:54] and yet, in this very point,

[00:34:56] to show the power of human prejudice,

[00:34:58] the situation of the slaves

[00:35:00] has been described by Mr. Norris,

[00:35:02] one of the Liverpool delegates,

[00:35:04] in a manner which,

[00:35:05] I am sure,

[00:35:06] will convince the house

[00:35:07] how money can draw a film

[00:35:09] across the eyes,

[00:35:10] so thick

[00:35:11] that total blindness

[00:35:12] could not do more.

[00:35:14] And how it is our duty, therefore,

[00:35:17] to trust not to the reasonings

[00:35:19] of profiting men

[00:35:20] or their way of painting

[00:35:21] over a transaction.

[00:35:23] Their apartments,

[00:35:25] says Mr. Norris,

[00:35:26] are fit for their advantage,

[00:35:28] as circumstances will admit.

[00:35:30] The right ankle of one,

[00:35:32] indeed,

[00:35:33] is connected with the left ankle

[00:35:34] of another

[00:35:35] by a small iron fetter,

[00:35:37] and if they are rebellious,

[00:35:39] by another on their wrists.

[00:35:41] They have several meals a day,

[00:35:43] some of their own

[00:35:44] country provisions,

[00:35:45] with the best sauces

[00:35:47] of African cookery,

[00:35:49] and by way of variety,

[00:35:50] another meal

[00:35:52] of according to European taste.

[00:35:55] After breakfast,

[00:35:56] they have water

[00:35:57] to wash themselves,

[00:35:58] while their apartments

[00:36:00] are perfumed

[00:36:01] with frankincense

[00:36:02] and lime juice.

[00:36:04] Before dinner,

[00:36:04] they are amused

[00:36:06] after the manner

[00:36:07] of their country.

[00:36:08] The song and dance

[00:36:09] are promoted.

[00:36:10] As if the whole ordeal

[00:36:11] was really a scene

[00:36:13] of pleasure and fun,

[00:36:14] it is added that

[00:36:15] games of chance

[00:36:16] are often played.

[00:36:18] The men play and sing,

[00:36:20] while the women and girls

[00:36:21] make fanciful ornaments

[00:36:22] with beads,

[00:36:23] which they are plentifully

[00:36:25] supplied with.

[00:36:26] Such is the sort of argument

[00:36:28] in which the Liverpool delegates,

[00:36:30] and particularly Mr. Norris,

[00:36:32] gave evidence

[00:36:33] before the council.

[00:36:34] What will the house think

[00:36:36] when,

[00:36:37] by the agreeing testimony

[00:36:38] of other witnesses,

[00:36:40] the true history

[00:36:41] is laid open?

[00:36:42] The slaves,

[00:36:44] who are sometimes

[00:36:44] described as rejoicing

[00:36:46] at their captivity,

[00:36:47] are so shaken

[00:36:48] with misery

[00:36:49] at leaving their country

[00:36:50] that it is the constant practice

[00:36:53] to set sail at night

[00:36:54] so that they should not

[00:36:55] actually be aware

[00:36:56] of their departure.

[00:36:58] The European food,

[00:37:00] which Mr. Norris talks of,

[00:37:01] are horse beans,

[00:37:03] and the scantiness,

[00:37:04] both of water

[00:37:05] and provision,

[00:37:06] was suggested

[00:37:07] by the very legislature

[00:37:08] of Jamaica

[00:37:09] in the report

[00:37:10] of their committee

[00:37:11] to be a subject

[00:37:12] that called

[00:37:13] for the interference

[00:37:14] of Parliament.

[00:37:16] Mr. Norris

[00:37:17] talks of frankincense

[00:37:19] and lime juice.

[00:37:20] When surgeons tell you

[00:37:21] the slaves are stowed

[00:37:22] so close together

[00:37:24] that there is not room

[00:37:25] to tread among them,

[00:37:26] and when you have it

[00:37:27] in evidence

[00:37:28] from Sir George Young

[00:37:30] that even in a ship

[00:37:31] which was carrying

[00:37:32] two hundred less

[00:37:33] than what was usual,

[00:37:35] the stench

[00:37:35] was intolerable.

[00:37:37] The song

[00:37:38] and the dance,

[00:37:39] says Mr. Norris,

[00:37:40] are promoted.

[00:37:42] It would have been

[00:37:43] more fair, perhaps,

[00:37:44] if he had explained

[00:37:45] that word promoted.

[00:37:47] The truth is

[00:37:48] that for the sake

[00:37:49] of exercise,

[00:37:50] these miserable wretches

[00:37:52] loaded with chains,

[00:37:53] oppressed with disease

[00:37:54] and wretchedness,

[00:37:56] are forced to dance

[00:37:57] by the terror

[00:37:58] of the lash

[00:37:59] and sometimes

[00:38:00] by the actual use

[00:38:01] of it.

[00:38:02] I,

[00:38:03] says one of the

[00:38:04] other witnesses,

[00:38:06] was employed

[00:38:07] to dance the men

[00:38:08] while another person

[00:38:09] danced the women.

[00:38:11] Such,

[00:38:12] then,

[00:38:12] is the meaning

[00:38:12] of the word

[00:38:13] promoted.

[00:38:15] And it may be

[00:38:16] observed,

[00:38:16] too,

[00:38:17] with respect to food,

[00:38:18] that an instrument

[00:38:19] is sometimes carried out

[00:38:20] in order to force

[00:38:21] them to eat,

[00:38:22] which is the same

[00:38:23] sort of proof

[00:38:24] of how much

[00:38:24] they enjoy themselves

[00:38:25] in that instance

[00:38:26] also.

[00:38:28] As to their singing,

[00:38:29] what will we say

[00:38:30] when we are told

[00:38:31] that their songs

[00:38:32] are songs of lamentation

[00:38:33] upon their departure,

[00:38:35] which,

[00:38:35] while they sing,

[00:38:37] are always in tears,

[00:38:39] insomuch that

[00:38:40] one captain,

[00:38:41] more humane

[00:38:42] as I should conceive

[00:38:43] him,

[00:38:43] therefore,

[00:38:44] than the rest,

[00:38:45] threatened one

[00:38:46] of the women

[00:38:46] with a flogging

[00:38:48] because the mournfulness

[00:38:49] of her song

[00:38:50] was too painful

[00:38:51] for his feelings.

[00:38:54] In order,

[00:38:55] however,

[00:38:55] not to trust

[00:38:56] too much

[00:38:57] to any sort

[00:38:57] of description,

[00:38:58] I will call

[00:38:59] the attention

[00:39:00] of the house

[00:39:00] to one species

[00:39:01] of evidence,

[00:39:02] which is

[00:39:03] absolutely

[00:39:04] infallible.

[00:39:06] Death,

[00:39:06] at least,

[00:39:08] is a sure

[00:39:08] ground of evidence,

[00:39:10] and the proportion

[00:39:11] of deaths

[00:39:12] will not only

[00:39:12] confirm,

[00:39:13] but if possible

[00:39:14] will even

[00:39:15] aggravate

[00:39:15] our suspicion

[00:39:16] of their misery

[00:39:17] in the transit.

[00:39:18] It will be found

[00:39:20] upon an average

[00:39:21] of all the ships

[00:39:22] of which evidence

[00:39:23] has been given

[00:39:24] to the council

[00:39:24] that exclusive

[00:39:25] of those

[00:39:26] who perish

[00:39:27] before the sale,

[00:39:28] not less

[00:39:29] than 12.5%

[00:39:30] perish

[00:39:31] in the passage.

[00:39:32] Besides these,

[00:39:34] the Jamaica report

[00:39:35] tells you

[00:39:36] that not less

[00:39:37] than 4.5%

[00:39:38] die on shore

[00:39:40] before the day

[00:39:41] of sail,

[00:39:42] which is only

[00:39:43] a week or two

[00:39:43] from the time

[00:39:44] of landing.

[00:39:45] One third

[00:39:46] more die

[00:39:47] in the transition,

[00:39:48] and this

[00:39:49] in a country

[00:39:50] exactly like

[00:39:50] their own,

[00:39:51] where they are

[00:39:52] healthy and happy

[00:39:53] as some of them

[00:39:55] attempt to say.

[00:39:56] The diseases,

[00:39:58] however,

[00:39:58] which they contract

[00:40:00] on shipboard,

[00:40:01] the astringent

[00:40:02] washes,

[00:40:02] which are to

[00:40:03] hide their wounds,

[00:40:04] and the mischievous

[00:40:05] tricks used

[00:40:06] to make them

[00:40:07] up for sale,

[00:40:08] are,

[00:40:08] as the Jamaica

[00:40:09] report says,

[00:40:10] a most precious

[00:40:12] and valuable report

[00:40:13] which I shall

[00:40:13] often have to advert

[00:40:14] to,

[00:40:15] one principle

[00:40:16] cause of this

[00:40:17] mortality.

[00:40:19] Throughout the

[00:40:19] whole process,

[00:40:20] however,

[00:40:21] there is a

[00:40:21] mortality of

[00:40:22] about 50%.

[00:40:23] How, then,

[00:40:25] can the house

[00:40:25] refuse its belief

[00:40:27] to the multiplied

[00:40:28] testimonies

[00:40:28] before the council

[00:40:29] of the savage

[00:40:30] treatment of the

[00:40:31] Africans in the

[00:40:32] middle passage?

[00:40:34] No, indeed,

[00:40:35] what need is there

[00:40:36] of any evidence?

[00:40:37] The number of

[00:40:38] deaths speaks

[00:40:39] for itself,

[00:40:40] and makes all

[00:40:42] such additional

[00:40:42] investigation

[00:40:43] superfluous.

[00:40:44] As soon as I

[00:40:46] had arrived so

[00:40:46] far in my

[00:40:47] investigation of

[00:40:48] the slave trade,

[00:40:49] I confess to

[00:40:50] you, sir,

[00:40:51] so enormous,

[00:40:52] so dreadful,

[00:40:53] so evil did

[00:40:54] its wickedness

[00:40:54] appear that my

[00:40:55] own mind was

[00:40:56] completely made up

[00:40:57] for the abolition.

[00:40:59] A trade founded

[00:41:01] in such sin

[00:41:02] and filth,

[00:41:03] and carried on

[00:41:04] as this was,

[00:41:06] must be

[00:41:07] abolished.

[00:41:08] Let the policy

[00:41:09] be what it

[00:41:10] might,

[00:41:11] let the

[00:41:11] consequences

[00:41:12] be what they

[00:41:13] would.

[00:41:14] I, from

[00:41:15] this time,

[00:41:16] determined

[00:41:16] that I

[00:41:18] would never

[00:41:18] rest till I

[00:41:19] had effected

[00:41:20] its abolition.

[00:41:35] If you look

[00:41:35] at this speech,

[00:41:36] it's not a

[00:41:36] very long one.

[00:41:37] It's a pretty

[00:41:38] short episode

[00:41:38] to jump back

[00:41:39] into,

[00:41:40] and yet I

[00:41:40] think there

[00:41:41] is so much

[00:41:42] to apply today.

[00:41:43] Obviously,

[00:41:43] I don't think

[00:41:44] that this

[00:41:45] episode is

[00:41:46] about let's

[00:41:46] end the

[00:41:47] slave trade

[00:41:48] in Britain

[00:41:48] today,

[00:41:49] because we

[00:41:50] know that

[00:41:51] that should

[00:41:51] be over.

[00:41:52] But what it

[00:41:53] does,

[00:41:54] I think,

[00:41:54] is gives us

[00:41:55] a model to

[00:41:55] look at

[00:41:56] how to deal

[00:41:56] with things.

[00:41:57] One of the

[00:41:57] biggest questions

[00:41:58] we as Christians

[00:41:59] often have to

[00:42:00] ask,

[00:42:00] especially if you're

[00:42:02] an American,

[00:42:03] this is a

[00:42:03] political election

[00:42:04] year,

[00:42:04] and even if

[00:42:05] you're not

[00:42:05] an American,

[00:42:06] you usually

[00:42:07] end up hearing

[00:42:07] about American

[00:42:08] politics,

[00:42:08] right?

[00:42:09] We Christians,

[00:42:09] we want to

[00:42:10] have a good

[00:42:10] influence on

[00:42:11] the world,

[00:42:11] and we want

[00:42:11] to have a

[00:42:12] good influence

[00:42:14] on the

[00:42:15] things that

[00:42:15] are happening

[00:42:16] around us.

[00:42:16] And I'm

[00:42:17] not,

[00:42:17] you may,

[00:42:17] oh,

[00:42:18] are you thinking

[00:42:19] of a particular

[00:42:19] issue right

[00:42:19] now?

[00:42:20] I am not.

[00:42:20] What I am

[00:42:21] thinking of

[00:42:22] right now,

[00:42:22] though,

[00:42:22] is just look

[00:42:23] at what

[00:42:23] William

[00:42:24] Wilberforce

[00:42:24] and John

[00:42:25] Newton did.

[00:42:26] They saw

[00:42:26] a problem,

[00:42:27] they began

[00:42:28] speaking and

[00:42:29] teaching and

[00:42:30] making this a

[00:42:31] well-known

[00:42:31] thing,

[00:42:32] and they

[00:42:32] took a

[00:42:32] lot of

[00:42:33] heat for

[00:42:33] that position,

[00:42:34] but they

[00:42:35] did it

[00:42:35] over and

[00:42:36] over again,

[00:42:36] telling people

[00:42:37] to act like

[00:42:37] Christians,

[00:42:38] encouraging them,

[00:42:39] writing books,

[00:42:40] whatever it

[00:42:41] took,

[00:42:41] they did it

[00:42:42] because they

[00:42:42] loved Jesus

[00:42:43] and they

[00:42:43] wanted to

[00:42:43] see something

[00:42:44] better happen.

[00:42:45] And it

[00:42:46] seemed impossible

[00:42:47] on the

[00:42:47] outset.

[00:42:48] When this

[00:42:49] speech was

[00:42:50] given, I'm

[00:42:51] sure he

[00:42:51] had blowback,

[00:42:52] I'm sure

[00:42:52] people attacked

[00:42:53] him,

[00:42:53] I'm sure

[00:42:54] they ran

[00:42:54] counter-speeches,

[00:42:55] it was

[00:42:56] probably a

[00:42:57] nightmare,

[00:42:57] and he had

[00:42:58] to wonder,

[00:42:58] is this ever

[00:42:59] going to

[00:42:59] happen?

[00:43:00] Will it

[00:43:01] be in

[00:43:01] my lifetime

[00:43:01] or a

[00:43:02] long time

[00:43:02] from now?

[00:43:03] Yet,

[00:43:04] over time,

[00:43:05] everything

[00:43:05] changed.

[00:43:05] And I

[00:43:06] think just

[00:43:06] as Christians,

[00:43:07] we need

[00:43:07] to think,

[00:43:08] kind of

[00:43:09] remind ourselves

[00:43:09] that's the

[00:43:10] way we need

[00:43:10] to be working

[00:43:11] as well.

[00:43:11] The whole

[00:43:12] world may

[00:43:12] be against

[00:43:12] us,

[00:43:13] whatever it

[00:43:14] is,

[00:43:14] though,

[00:43:14] that we're

[00:43:14] calling to

[00:43:15] when we

[00:43:16] are called

[00:43:16] to remember

[00:43:16] the poor,

[00:43:17] and we

[00:43:18] are called

[00:43:18] to remember

[00:43:18] the oppressed,

[00:43:20] and we're

[00:43:20] called to

[00:43:20] do all

[00:43:21] these different

[00:43:22] things that

[00:43:22] the Lord

[00:43:22] has called

[00:43:23] us to

[00:43:23] do.

[00:43:23] Let's be

[00:43:23] reminding you,

[00:43:24] what is

[00:43:24] the slave

[00:43:26] trade of

[00:43:27] today that

[00:43:27] maybe the

[00:43:28] whole world

[00:43:28] is currently

[00:43:29] overlooking?

[00:43:30] Nobody really

[00:43:31] knew how

[00:43:31] bad what

[00:43:32] John Newton

[00:43:33] and Wilberforce

[00:43:34] was and what

[00:43:35] they were

[00:43:35] talking about

[00:43:36] until they

[00:43:36] started to

[00:43:37] really highlight

[00:43:38] it.

[00:43:38] The average

[00:43:39] citizen didn't

[00:43:39] care.

[00:43:40] And I know

[00:43:41] that 100

[00:43:41] years, 200

[00:43:42] years from now,

[00:43:43] it'll be great

[00:43:44] Christians who

[00:43:44] called attention

[00:43:46] to something

[00:43:46] like this,

[00:43:47] that we

[00:43:47] will go,

[00:43:47] wow, I'm

[00:43:48] so grateful

[00:43:49] for those

[00:43:49] Christians who

[00:43:50] saw that issue

[00:43:51] that was

[00:43:51] happening at

[00:43:52] that time,

[00:43:52] and they

[00:43:53] worked to

[00:43:53] address it.

[00:43:54] And I

[00:43:54] just hope

[00:43:55] that we

[00:43:55] will be

[00:43:56] awake enough

[00:43:56] to see

[00:43:57] what's

[00:43:57] happening and

[00:43:58] going,

[00:43:58] oh yeah,

[00:43:58] when the

[00:43:59] Christians

[00:43:59] start moving

[00:44:00] and calling

[00:44:00] on that

[00:44:00] issue,

[00:44:01] we will

[00:44:01] all come

[00:44:01] together

[00:44:02] to do

[00:44:02] that.

[00:44:03] That is

[00:44:03] something that

[00:44:04] maybe sounds

[00:44:04] a little too

[00:44:05] picturesque,

[00:44:05] but it

[00:44:06] probably sounded

[00:44:06] too picturesque

[00:44:07] to William

[00:44:07] Wilberforce

[00:44:08] giving that

[00:44:09] speech,

[00:44:09] and yet look

[00:44:10] at the result

[00:44:10] that it

[00:44:11] had.

[00:44:25] Revived

[00:44:26] Thoughts.

[00:44:27] Today's sermon

[00:44:28] was narrated

[00:44:28] by Nick

[00:44:28] Garland,

[00:44:29] who's a

[00:44:30] worship pastor

[00:44:30] in Pennsylvania.

[00:44:31] Big thanks

[00:44:32] to Nick,

[00:44:33] and we're

[00:44:34] happy to be

[00:44:35] back, Troy.

[00:44:36] It feels good.

[00:44:36] It feels

[00:44:37] right.

[00:44:37] Yeah,

[00:44:38] no,

[00:44:38] we're really

[00:44:39] glad to be

[00:44:39] back,

[00:44:40] and if you're

[00:44:40] listening right

[00:44:41] now,

[00:44:41] all I'm going

[00:44:41] to ask you

[00:44:42] to do is

[00:44:42] share this

[00:44:43] episode.

[00:44:44] Tell people

[00:44:44] Revived Thoughts

[00:44:45] is back,

[00:44:45] and putting

[00:44:45] up sermons

[00:44:46] and speeches

[00:44:46] and getting

[00:44:47] back on the

[00:44:49] track here,

[00:44:49] so tell everyone,

[00:44:50] hey,

[00:44:51] they're doing

[00:44:51] it again,

[00:44:52] please share

[00:44:53] our episodes

[00:44:53] with everybody,

[00:44:54] and I also

[00:44:55] want to say a

[00:44:56] special thank

[00:44:56] you.

[00:44:56] I forgot

[00:44:56] about this

[00:44:57] group of

[00:44:57] people when

[00:44:58] we were

[00:44:58] thanking

[00:44:58] people.

[00:44:59] Thank you

[00:44:59] to those

[00:44:59] of us

[00:45:00] who reached

[00:45:00] out and

[00:45:00] told me,

[00:45:01] well,

[00:45:01] I have been

[00:45:01] going through

[00:45:02] all of your

[00:45:03] episodes from

[00:45:03] beginning to

[00:45:04] end lately

[00:45:04] and really

[00:45:05] enjoying them.

[00:45:06] We have

[00:45:06] five years

[00:45:07] worth of

[00:45:08] episodes,

[00:45:08] hundreds of

[00:45:09] episodes,

[00:45:10] and yet there

[00:45:10] are quite a

[00:45:12] number of

[00:45:12] you who are

[00:45:13] working your

[00:45:13] way through

[00:45:14] the entire

[00:45:15] catalog.

[00:45:15] I personally

[00:45:16] have been

[00:45:16] deeply enriched

[00:45:17] to make

[00:45:18] these five

[00:45:18] years worth

[00:45:19] of episodes,

[00:45:20] but it is

[00:45:20] always really

[00:45:21] cool to

[00:45:21] hear people

[00:45:22] going back

[00:45:22] to the early

[00:45:23] ones and

[00:45:23] going,

[00:45:23] no,

[00:45:24] these sermons

[00:45:25] are really good

[00:45:25] at the beginning

[00:45:26] of five years

[00:45:26] and are all

[00:45:27] the way

[00:45:27] through.

[00:45:27] There's so

[00:45:28] many good

[00:45:28] episodes.

[00:45:29] I just want

[00:45:30] to thank you.

[00:45:30] I can't remember

[00:45:31] all your names

[00:45:31] right now,

[00:45:32] but I know

[00:45:32] there were

[00:45:32] several of

[00:45:33] you who

[00:45:33] reached out

[00:45:33] to us

[00:45:34] over the

[00:45:34] break and

[00:45:34] was like,

[00:45:35] hey,

[00:45:35] I've just

[00:45:35] been enjoying

[00:45:36] all of it.

[00:45:37] So thank you

[00:45:37] so much for

[00:45:37] those of you

[00:45:38] who have been

[00:45:38] listening.

[00:45:39] Please share

[00:45:39] this episode

[00:45:39] and tell

[00:45:40] people about

[00:45:40] it.

[00:45:41] In the

[00:45:41] meantime,

[00:45:42] this is Troy

[00:45:42] and Joel

[00:45:42] that you've

[00:45:43] been listening

[00:45:43] to.

[00:45:44] Goodbye

[00:45:44] thoughts.