Oswald Chambers wrote one of the most famous devotionals of all times, "My Utmost for His Highest." More than that, though, while he was alive he ministered to people all over the world and to soldiers in Egypt during World War 1.
Big thank you to Pastor Ed Backell for narrating this and many other episodes of Revived Thoughts!
For Patreons, new Deep Dive: Bleeding Kansas available! Check out our Patreon!
ALSO, make sure you are subscribed to Christian Or Not!
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Revived bots is a production of Revived Studios.
00:09 --> 00:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This is Troy Angel and you're able to see two Revived Thoughts.
00:18 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The majority of us are unnoticed and unnoticeable people.
00:23 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: If we take the extraordinary experience as a model for the Christian life, we erect a wrong standard without knowing it.
00:41 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_02]: during World War I, Charlie, how you, I said that a little bit weird is, I don't know I, I put those infections the way I did, but you really don't, you find World War I to be funny, I think is what it is.
00:50 --> 00:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
00:51 --> 00:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big life.
00:51 --> 00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It matters to you.
00:52 --> 00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Alexandria, Egypt, World War I, that's what I'm trying to communicate, Troy, how are you doing?
00:59 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing it, okay, I'm gonna go on a way and I should ask you how you doing, shall how you doing, sorry.
01:03 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm doing A, okay.
01:06 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I think it probably means more to you right now that it does me because you have an upcoming trip right so yeah, and it might be actually in one week from the time that The listener is hearing this, I'll be in Alexandria so what a quinkie dink
01:21 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is going to mean be a very meaningful thing, but I was going to say though not related to this at all not related to anything Joel, but I was this Soul side tangent side tangent the other day.
01:31 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to figure out like when will the last world war two Veterans die because and because those are they're quite very very I'm kind of surprised there's still some alive
01:40 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_01]: There's still about 40 U.S. World War II veterans that are still kicking, but they're all like 97 to 100.
01:46 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So it is very, very likely that within five years, there won't be a single one left, which to me, I remember that we had like a veteran from the U.S.S.
01:56 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: as an Indianapolis that went down with the sharks.
01:59 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: They came and visited our school and the guy talked and shared the story.
02:03 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my, I mean, every, we were all glued.
02:05 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a
02:08 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just to me, like an older veteran has always been in my head a World War II soldier.
02:13 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you and I were alive, Joe, there were technically like the people who were in their late 90s.
02:17 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The current age of World War II veterans were a World War I veterans.
02:21 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you really had an old, you know, gentlemen in his late 90s, which you probably didn't see a lot of, but once in a while you would, that guy might have been around in World War I.
02:29 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just saying, yeah, I was like, man, like very soon, all of the World War I people in World War II people will be completely gone.
02:35 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is a weird thing to think about.
02:38 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So when he said World War One, it triggered that memory of me during that research the other day.
02:42 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of that weird vibe, that like we will soon live in a world that has no physical remaining connections to that world anymore.
02:48 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've had that thought several times as well, like I don't know if you've ever watched the mini series Band of Brothers, but they have and it's follow-up series is the one in Pacific which is where it sounds good, yeah.
03:01 --> 03:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The air one, the Pacific one was good in that it, and I do not recommend it, sorry, I know there are young people who listen, so don't watch, you know,
03:11 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_01]: bad the pacific was I do feel like it communicated the message that the pacific was a really horrible war, but it was it was too brutal.
03:19 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I really struggled with it.
03:20 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: But the my point was the beginning of the van to brothers because they always have those little cold open interviews with the with the soldiers and always thought like this come crazy that this is like the next generation is just going to have these types of interviews to relate with what the old veterans were like.
03:37 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not actually going to be able to hear
03:42 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_02]: interviews that were recorded in the 90s and 2000s, which is wild to think about.
03:46 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, there's like, there's interviews in like the 50s with like people from the Civil War, you know?
03:51 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, so my wife and I, both of us running history podcasts, we get real interested, you know, kicks out of things like that.
03:57 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So we've spent...
03:59 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_01]: lots of different times crawling through YouTube, finding like, I mean, we literally, probably two weeks ago, we found an interview of a woman talking about, like, having slaves, and she was like, yeah, I mean, like, you know, we feel bad about it now, but we, yeah, and it was like, the next video came up with a slave, and it was like, yeah, you know, I was a slave.
04:15 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's what it was.
04:15 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just like, that's crazy the thing about that we have.
04:18 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: audio recordings and videos of people from that era that have their voices that can be heard.
04:23 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I love to use and I've even done this on our YouTube channel where I take like an old sermon.
04:27 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I just did it with our Yonhasseps episode.
04:29 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I take an old sermon and I use like the oldest video of Czech Republic and I combine them together and just create a cool image where you're seeing this old black and white, the oldest footage of the Czech Republic with this old sermon.
04:39 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just neat to see
04:40 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Times of the past and how things are different but also kind of how things are the same like people walk down the street talking to their friend Not that differently a hundred years later.
04:48 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The closer different the streets are different, but the vibes haven't changed that much Last thing I'll say about the worst thing is that in this of me my last song Growing up if you're you know as old as Joel and I are quite old right you Yeah, we have older listeners obviously, but
05:04 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_01]: There was always like a lot of the, anybody who is a certain age that you expected that they probably served in war or That's true.
05:10 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, there was like a, you know, a connection to war for them.
05:13 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That was very real, right?
05:15 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And very soon, like the Vietnam War veterans are getting older as well.
05:19 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Very soon, it will be, there will be no person, you know, like there will be people being raised.
05:25 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The SR veterans, obviously served in the Gulf War and the war in Iraq and stuff like that.
05:29 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's not an expectation that the average person did.
05:32 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be much rarer thing to meet a veteran.
05:35 --> 05:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that is a really new place.
05:38 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Since you mentioned the Civil War, but the Civil War people, their grandparents, served in the Revolutionary War.
05:42 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So when was the last time that we didn't have a large majority of America's population at a certain age, having had served in a war together.
05:50 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And Lord willing, there's no future wars.
05:53 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be an interesting change, I think.
05:55 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like when we were in high school, if there was an old person, you just assumed that they were a world war, too.
06:02 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
06:03 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't do that anymore.
06:04 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't.
06:05 --> 06:08 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's going to, and I think it'll continue going that way.
06:08 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure, I'm just trying to slow down right now, and they're like, okay, can you guys?
06:12 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But I just, it's something I was thinking about, just a big shift.
06:15 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's happening quietly, maybe even unnoticededly.
06:19 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of a notice, the sermon is titled The Ministry of the Unnoticed.
06:22 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's get back.
06:23 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good segue, right?
06:24 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That was great.
06:26 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Joel, we have a positive responses to Levi thoughts, so we always like to share.
06:31 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_01]: YouTube, yes he says, listen, it was a great episode.
06:34 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, the recommend.
06:35 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe this was to our Yonha's sermon that I just mentioned.
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
06:38 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Love that people are listening to an exclusive the only English copy of the Yonha's sermon to exist.
06:43 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been putting them out.
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to get more out.
06:47 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: great thing that one of our listeners helped us put together.
06:49 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're so excited about that.
06:51 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Over on X, someone was sharing our episode, the office columnist shared our episode on Christmas Evans.
06:57 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He said after coming to salvation, Christmas is friends beat him so bad that left him blind and when I, but he persisted, he learned to read Greek Hebrew in Latin.
07:04 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't mention off-scalvinist that Christmas Evans didn't learn to read till he was 17, which is really cool.
07:10 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah,
07:11 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
07:11 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, thanks for teaching me.
07:12 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Revive thoughts about Christmas and another person said, Revive thoughts is a terrific ministry.
07:16 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Eric.
07:17 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
07:17 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_01]: The office Calvinist, um, don't know that that was your name your parents gave you, but I appreciate it.
07:22 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Kitchen on our Patreon, uh, which you should all be if you can be a Patreon supporter here.
07:28 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, awesome conversation guys, real fun, so so many thoughts, and he mentioned that he might have our his Bible study, listen to our episode on Church Discipline.
07:36 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
07:37 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
07:37 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Glad you enjoyed it.
07:38 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate it.
07:39 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Kittrick, because he was the one who gave us a suggestion for that idea.
07:42 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a suggestion, send it in, but even better if you're a Patreon listener, and then you're going to have your Bible study, listen to it.
07:47 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's even super good.
07:49 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Double, double up on the awesome if you can do that.
07:52 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We've actually had, it's been a long time, but we've had actually other people tell us
07:57 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that is pretty rad, so we appreciate that.
08:00 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It's being a Patreon, we want to say thank you to Tim who just signed up on Patreon too, so we appreciate if you want to order the Patreon funs go, they all go back into the studio, Joel and I are not living off the five star life of stakes and, you know, luxury flights here, we put it all back in, so maybe someday, but not currently at the current trajectory.
08:19 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Well that'd be happening, and I say maybe someday as a joke.
08:22 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Troy Oswald Chambers is who we're talking about today we've done Oswald Chambers We've talked about a few the cool guy
08:29 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Really yeah, honestly.
08:31 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
08:31 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I spent about four years.
08:33 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I think since we've done an episode of his and as I was just going back to the story I was like it's been too long.
08:37 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: This guy's great.
08:37 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I know why he just you do so many different people Sometimes people just fall off and I was glad to bring him back in he's a bit of a he's a bit of an odd guy But kind of in a fun way, you know, yeah, he's a fun guy to go through his life journey in
08:52 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Born in Scotland in the year 1874, his dad was a Baptist preacher and at the age of 15, his family moved to London, England, and it was there that chambers heard the world-famous Charles Spurgeon who was preaching, and this would have been towards the end of Spurgeon's life.
09:10 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_02]: This would have been right after he went through all this downgrade controversy things that we've covered in other episodes about three years before he would pass away.
09:19 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We have covered Oswald Chambers's trip to Japan in previous episodes, and his overlap, Spurgeon, White, Myers, are all people that he's crossed past with in his life.
09:31 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_02]: So we have the hindsight of looking back and seeing today we're going to focus more on the movement that got him into ministry.
09:39 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And then this final day is preaching to troops during World War I.
09:44 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Joel, after becoming a Christian, Oswald volunteered to do ministry to poor people in England, but he did not feel an immediate call to ministry.
09:52 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a gifted artist and felt like he was supposed to be an artist.
09:56 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He went to the royal college of art in London, then to the University of Edinburgh.
10:00 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_01]: To continue studies and he believed the quote he used, the redemption of the aesthetic kingdom.
10:06 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: or rather the proving of Christ's redemption of it.
10:08 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He thought his art could redeem basically the art world.
10:11 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we see that today with many artists and people I'm not at don't call me a Christian musician or musician, you know, that kind of thing.
10:17 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of what he's doing here too.
10:19 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm going to make art that can glorify the Lord, but in this, you know, beauty, all that kind of stuff.
10:24 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he had actually been offered an art scholarship to travel abroad, which that alone.
10:29 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think how many people want to be an art person, I had imagined so a lot, especially back then, and he had to be pretty good, I imagined, to get the art scholarship, but he turned it down because he said, you know, I haven't seen many men come back from these kind of travels.
10:43 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They were morally and physically wrecks.
10:45 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_01]: because you're obviously hobnobbing with rich elites, you're drinking, they're living a certain lifestyle, and you're an artist trying to fit in and make friends, and he didn't want that for himself.
10:54 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's, again, good enough artists to get an artistic scholarship of some kind, but not wanting to compromise his character at the same time.
11:02 --> 11:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So he kept talking to his friends as he's going through art school or not art school, but going through all this stuff and he said he didn't feel satisfied, I didn't feel content, he loved the work, but he didn't feel like this is what he's supposed to be doing.
11:12 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And his friends suggested maybe you need to go into ministry and he basically told them, God would have to make the call to ministry extremely clear because he just didn't see it at this talent and he should pursue it.
11:20 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Now part of this spiritual push may have come from the fact that he was attending the famed pastor Alexander White's church there near Edinburgh at that time.
11:28 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We've mentioned Alexander White on multiple episodes that really enjoy his sermons.
11:32 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_01]: We did mention that later in life he kind of he was soft when he probably should have been a little tougher on things but I do think he was a genuinely good guy and his sermons seem to have been convicting young Oswald here.
11:44 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Well soon his money that he was making on freelance illustrations begin to dry up.
11:48 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't earn any more money, nobody could buy it.
11:50 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's good enough, again, to get an art scholarship, he'd be doing well, but after he was saying, like, oh, God, it's got to make it clear.
11:55 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Suddenly, he's got no money.
11:57 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He began to go literally hungry and experience some real hardships because of this.
12:00 --> 12:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So he decided to put it all in the line one night.
12:02 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He felt like God was kind of challenging him.
12:04 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So he stayed up all night praying to God.
12:06 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And if I read this correctly, he actually went up a mountain, an extinct volcano there in the area called Arthur's seat was the top of it.
12:15 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So like he's staying up all night on a literal mountain praying to God.
12:19 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
12:19 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's an artist.
12:20 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe this is melodramatic, but you know, it's kind of cool at the same time.
12:24 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he asked God for direction, wrestles with him all night.
12:27 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And the next morning, he said he felt like God had called him to ministry.
12:31 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he had surrendered.
12:32 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He, he, it was clear.
12:33 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He, the reason he couldn't find wrestling contentment was it was God was putting him.
12:37 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_01]: an introduction so he gets home and in the brochure and in the mail as a brochure for a place called Dunno Neological Seminary it was a really new school it had one mentor and 30 students and the mail had been sent anonymously but years later he found out his dad had sent them brochure after meeting the principal of this new school and thinking nice guy maybe chambers would be interested
12:58 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Chambers left an internationally recognized and prestigious university to attend a Bible college with 30 students and one faculty member because that's what God wanted to do.
13:09 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The reaction from his friends were mixed.
13:11 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them were like, I'm happy you're finding your way and others were like, you're going to give up all of this to go to this tiny little school no one's ever heard of.
13:20 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And, and Joel, you, you may look down on me for a minute disagree,
13:27 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I had free scholarships at the University of North Florida where I was just not like a big prestigious school at all, but I was doing very well.
13:33 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I had no debt and the Lord called me to go to Bible College in Kansas City.
13:39 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember people talking to me and going, where's Kansas City?
13:42 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing, leaving Florida?
13:43 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: You've got, you know, you're going to get debt to go do this.
13:46 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, that's what the Lord seems to be telling me to do.
13:48 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And they all, a lot of people thought I was crazy.
13:51 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm really glad I did.
13:58 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not trying to read myself in the Oswald Chambers, obviously, it's a more important fellow than me, but I'm just saying I could relate to this moment in his life of turning from one path to go into a small college, no one had ever heard of, but just feeling content that it was where the Lord had me.
14:27 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_02]: had experience as a pastor all over the world, and what chambers would call character, character.
14:35 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_02]: He basically looked up to McGregor as a second dad, and at first, Oswald would preach in chair, but he terrified people.
14:43 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_02]: To quote one of the churches that Erdem come and speak, they said, don't send us the long-haired swearing pastor.
14:50 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this reputation is starting up.
14:52 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_02]: He was intense about the fear of God like his father,
14:57 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And he had this long hair and he had a thin build later on soldiers that would be ministered to buy him would say that he was the living environment of Sherlock Holmes.
15:08 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's how people visualized Sherlock Holmes back then.
15:12 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, he did kind of mellow out, though, and you know, went through some faith journeys.
15:17 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_02]: He was coming out of his own spiritual crisis when F.B.
15:21 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Myers had visited the college and preached on the importance of asking for the Holy Spirit to guide them.
15:28 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_02]: This resonated with Chambers a lot because he seemed to be disconnected from the Holy, like as he would put it, he felt spiritually dried up.
15:36 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was this kind of four-year stretch here where he described his time at Danune as Hellon Earth, like he said, quote, nothing but the overruling grace of God and kindness, a friend, kept me out of an asylum.
15:51 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_02]: was really struggling to make sense of his life and faith during a multi-year time.
16:00 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but despite his own personal spiritual struggles, people were coming to Christ all around him.
16:07 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_02]: At one church that he spoke at 40 people came to accept Christ after he preached there and he was confused at how this could be.
16:14 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_02]: He would talk to his mentor about how this could be.
16:16 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a poem that he wrote during this time.
16:19 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_02]: He says,
16:20 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Lord Jesus, hear me crying for a consecrated life for I bite the dust and tryng for release from the dark strife.
16:29 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So a troubled guy, but not like that's not what he's known for like that.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_02]: That's that is a section.
16:37 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
16:37 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_02]: When you hear stuff like that, I feel like oftentimes the person, you know, doesn't emerge from that.
16:43 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_02]: But he does seem to emerge from that.
16:44 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_02]: He does seem to change into a different person throughout his life.
16:48 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:48 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_01]: in it and there's a few different blue ironically his mentor or the guy not mentor but the guy who brought him a Christ's virgin dark moments in his life at we've covered on very first episode a call to the depressed We of spurgeon's not our first episode, but our first spurgeon episode We see it in the life of David Brainer like some people just they go through very
17:07 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Hard times, sometimes it's like a permanent thing they walk with in the, you know, we see pastors who've had those battles, but we do see people like this who it's just it is a time period in their life or something was wrong.
17:18 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And it makes sense humans go through this right and sometimes it's some at error like with Christmas Evans ironically we mentioned him earlier he had his his battle with my favorite
17:35 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So he went through his fear to dark period because he's had these wrong ideas.
17:39 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Chambers may have had the same kind of seem like he was saying the same thing where he was thinking about God the wrong way.
17:44 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't wasn't caused by F.E.
17:45 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Meyer.
17:46 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he just he approached God wrong and then eventually God set him straight.
17:50 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just interesting to me.
17:52 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact later on he said like F.E.
17:54 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Meyer's and his interactions with him were part of the reason he didn't go crazy.
17:59 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he felt like those were, you know, little, little cups of fresh water he needed to keep
18:04 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, not long after all of this, he gets married.
18:07 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Went on around the world to her visited Ohio.
18:09 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a prizing number of times for a guy from Scotland.
18:13 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but let's get to the end of his life.
18:15 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_01]: World War I broke out and in 1915 he suspended the Bible college.
18:19 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_01]: She has started to join the war effort.
18:20 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: He volunteered with the YMCA and they had a campus near Cairo.
18:23 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, not our only pastor that we've covered, we've visited the YMCA's of World War I. Joel.
18:27 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the other one is?
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Not even.
18:30 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the telling you.
18:32 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Jay Gresham, mate, and remember famous Princeton University.
18:35 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He was in his 40s, but he couldn't really volunteer and enlist, so he went with the YMCA and handed out little hot chocolates.
18:42 --> 18:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Right next to the front, I love his story because his famous professor got a big, you know, big pedigree, big name behind him.
18:49 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_01]: and he's just sitting there hanging out hot chocolates on duty at one point gas attacks they have to put gas masks on on a pretty regular basis at one point he almost his camp gets cut off they all feel like run across a bridge as fast as they can and then blow up the bridge before they end up in enemy lines and uh he all all the while he's hosting Bible studies but he has a very opposite experience of all the chambers and chambers has all these guys coming to his studies.
19:10 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that in a minute.
19:11 --> 19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But discretion, machines, uh the state,
19:16 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: like two soldiers that are visiting.
19:18 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's doing all this work.
19:19 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And the end of the day provides Bible study.
19:21 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a single guy there, one or two guys.
19:23 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, it probably meant the world to those one or two guys.
19:25 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just, I really respect a guy who does that.
19:28 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, who can serve and world war on such a terrible war.
19:33 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But I also, Oslo Chambers kind of has like the reverse of that, right?
19:36 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We're a different story for him.
19:38 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to the front.
19:39 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: He's at the YMCA, but he's in Cairo.
19:43 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that Egypt's war wasn't bad, it was bad, but it wasn't quite the trenches of the famous World War I trenches that you think of when you think of World War I trenches.
19:55 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit better if you had to be plugged somewhere and I think you would prefer probably Egypt.
20:02 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Soldiers would fight, but on the weekends they would visit this big YMCA camp as their vacation time.
20:07 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_01]: There they would meet a tent full of people and you would meet a big long line.
20:11 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: People out the door trying to like put their head over the shoulders to get to listen to Oswald Chambers preaching.
20:16 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So very different experience than machines one or two people Bible studies.
20:21 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And these people a lot of them are British or New Zealander or Australian soldiers from around the empire back in those days.
20:27 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And they love Sherlock Holmes.
20:28 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_01]: This was like the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's books had only recently been published.
20:34 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And people called Oswald Chambers, the Sherlock's homie homie professor.
20:38 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He was tall, clean shaven.
20:39 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He honestly, he looked at a picture of him and he kind of does look like he could be Sherlock Holmes.
20:44 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was he had the mannerisms like he was super smart, very intelligent, quote, things, but he was also like a little reserve, but not like in a bad reserve, but like in a British reserve kind of way that was just people really liked him.
20:57 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So they would compare him to Rasheralak homes a lot.
21:00 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And he would preach to them, he had already, and you know, he's at this point, these soldiers are a lot of them are leaving Britain for the first time in their lives, but this guy he's been to Ohio in an enormous amount of times, but he's also been in Japan.
21:11 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been all over the world preaching.
21:13 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: and so it was just cool for him to be there and you know he's in the dust he's in the sand he's he's rough and roughened it up with them too.
21:21 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_01]: For a few years this went on in his ministry there went really well but Britain decided they want to push into the Ottoman Empire they wanted to retake Jerusalem in an effort there.
21:29 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We actually talk about this moment a long time ago I interviewed Dr. Obs Guinness about his great grandpa Henry Gratton Guinness we don't know who Dr. Obs Guinness has really famous apologists I looking back I don't know how we got him on the show he's wonderful guy
21:41 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_01]: who has a huge career in ministry, and I think he was just excited to talk about his great grandpa, but he told his own life story to super good episode, and her grandson got us also a really cool guy.
21:50 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so go check that out, and he mentions this offense because it connected with his great grandpa story.
21:55 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So
21:56 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, they suspected this would be a big buddy battle and they asked for two chaplains to kind of come to the medical tents when the soldiers who were getting beat up in Jerusalem or, you know, shot at and stuff, would end up coming back to these tents.
22:08 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Chambers was selected to be one of those two guys.
22:11 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_01]: While he was there he started to feel nauseous.
22:12 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He started to feel sick.
22:14 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Disease was normal.
22:15 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They called it an Egypt mummy tummy.
22:17 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they still call it that.
22:20 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: In Indonesia, we have what's called Bolly Belly, which is where people
22:26 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_01]: and they'll go to Bali and they'll eat the food there and then they'll get really, really medically unwell and need to see a restroom.
22:33 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that's what they're talking about.
22:37 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get any better though.
22:38 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_01]: He was still sick after a while and he was still doing pretty poorly and his side was really hurting.
22:42 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So he had been trying to save himself so that the soldiers could get the kick, you know, a guy's gonna in shot and then you have a hurt belly, you should be taking that with spot, right?
22:49 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But eventually he does, he does need help.
22:52 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_01]: and he finally kind of like admits to the doctor like I need to be seen in the doctor looks at him he needs an epinectomy so they got to do stuff actually goes well but his blood starts to clot and that the doctor's it looks to it looks to a lot of people like he had just waited too long and why in some people there was a criticism I saw like oh if he walked with God so closely why did he wait so long to do I think that's pretty unfair
23:16 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was trying to leave room for a guy who is going to come in actual wood bullets and I mean for crying a lot, this is his, he's trying to minister to the troops, but he did need to be there earlier and you could in a sense say he died in some ways because of the Trent, you know, World War I because if in a normal situation he would have gotten to that doctor much much quicker.
23:46 --> 23:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But the soldiers took his death pretty hard.
23:48 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_02]: There was one soldier that, you know, recounted that he couldn't believe the news we need.
23:53 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_02]: When he heard it, the soldier remembered talking about how God took their teacher from them too soon.
24:00 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_02]: But as they were in the process of retaking Jerusalem during, you know, these battles in World War I, it made him think about the other teacher that had walked the earth and died too soon as well.
24:13 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Another soldier from Britain at the time,
24:15 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So that he had met God in Egypt during that campaign, and later, through books published by Chambers' wife, he went into ministry in Egypt.
24:25 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, quote, it was during the Palestine campaign that I learned of Mr.
24:29 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Chambers' death.
24:30 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And although from a human point of view, his passing seemed an irreparable loss.
24:36 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It marked the beginning of a ministry, which he might never have achieved had he lived to pursue it.
24:41 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is where the slow moving miracle, as we count time, begins.
24:47 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Would that ministry have started if it weren't for Chambers' death?
24:52 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Would the books have been published?
24:53 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Would he have had the same impact alive as he did through his death?
24:59 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: This sermon is all about the ministry of the unnoticed, and it would have been easy for Chambers' life to have gone unnoticed for the most part, yet now is one of history's most famous devotion writers.
25:29 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be as the due unto Israel, he shall blossom as the Lily, Hosea 145.
25:37 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_00]: The New Testament notices things which from our standpoint do not seem to count.
25:43 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_00]: For instance, our Lord called only 12 disciples, but what about all those other disciples of his who were not specifically called?
25:51 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The 12 disciples were called for a special purpose.
25:55 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But there were hundreds who followed Jesus and who were sincere believers in him who were unnoticed.
26:02 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_00]: We are apt to have a disproportionate view of a Christian because we look only at the exceptions.
26:09 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_00]: The exceptions stand out as exceptions.
26:12 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_00]: The extraordinary conversions and phenomenal experiences are magnificent specimen studies of what happens in the life of everyone.
26:20 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But not one in a million has an experience such as the Apostle Paul had.
26:26 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_00]: The majority of us are unnoticed and unnoticeable people.
26:31 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_00]: If we take the extraordinary experience as a model for the Christian life, we erect a wrong standard without knowing it.
26:39 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the passing of the years we produce that worst abortion, the spiritual prick,
26:51 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_00]: The man or woman who becomes a spiritual prick does so by imperceptible degrees, but the starting point is a departure from the Evangel of the New Testament and a building up of the Evangel of Protestantism.
27:07 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_00]: First, let us look at the unaffected loveliness of the commonplace.
27:13 --> 27:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Blessed are the poor in spirit, Matthew 5-3, literally
27:17 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_00]: blessed are the poppers in spirit.
27:20 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_00]: A popper is exceedingly commonplace.
27:23 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_00]: The average type of preaching emphasizes strength of will, beauty of character, the things that can be easily noticed.
27:31 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The phrase decide for Christ, which we so frequently hear, is too often an emphasis on the thing our Lord never trusted.
27:41 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord never asks us to make a decision to Him.
27:44 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He asks us to yield to Him.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_00]: a very different matter.
27:50 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: At the basis of our Lord's kingdom is this unaffected loveliness of the commonplace.
27:57 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The thing in which I am blessed is my poverty.
28:01 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_00]: If I know I have no strength of will, no nobility of disposition, then Jesus says, blessed are you because it is through that poverty that I enter into the kingdom of heaven.
28:14 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot enter the kingdom of heaven as a good man or woman.
28:18 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I can only enter the kingdom of heaven as a complete popper.
28:23 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Here we see the influence of this advantage.
28:28 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: As the Lily among the Thorns, so is my love among the daughter, Song of Solomon 2-2.
28:34 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lily Solomon refers to is as common as our Daisy, but a perfume pervades it.
28:42 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The illustration is, as if a traveler repassing a field and suddenly a fragrant aroma wafted to him from a bush, marveling at the sweetness he looked into the bush and found a lily growing in its bosom.
28:55 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_00]: People come to a good but worldly home and say, what a beautiful influence comes from that home.
29:02 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But begin to draw aside the ordinary commonplace things of the
29:07 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_00]: that tucked away aware somewhere is a mother or a daughter who really is a lily of Lord.
29:15 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Or take it in connection with individual lives.
29:20 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_00]: We may see a man who is generally disadvantage in appearance or in education, a thoroughly commonplace man, yet a marvelous influence radiates from him.
29:31 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord is spoken of as a root out of a dry ground,
29:36 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_00]: thoroughly disadvantaged.
29:37 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what the Isaiah says the hero of God will be like.
29:41 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: The true character of the loveliness that tells for God is always unconscious, conscious influence is pergish and unquestion.
29:53 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_00]: When we begin to wonder whether we are of any use, we instantly lose the bloom of the touch of the Lord.
30:01 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus says, He that believes on me, out of him, will flow rivers of living water.
30:07 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_00]: If we begin to examine outflow, we lose touch with the source.
30:13 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We have to pay attention to the source, and God will look after the outflow.
30:17 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The same thing is true with regard to the passion for souls, the great craze for successful service.
30:26 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord told the disciples not to rejoice in successful service, but to rejoice because they were rightly related to him in Luke 10.
30:36 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_00]: The danger in all these things are that we are apt to make the effect the cause.
30:44 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_00]: who are the people who have influenced us most.
30:47 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Certainly not the Prigish men and women, but our mothers, our fathers, our sisters, the ones who had not the remotest idea that they were influencing us.
31:00 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And the chapters that were upon, the pillars were of Lily work, first king, seven, 19.
31:06 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lilywork added nothing to the strength of the building.
31:10 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Many would notice the strength and the majesty of the whole building, but the inspiration of it all was in the detail in the Lilywork.
31:18 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_00]: In architecture, it is not so much the mass of strength accounts, as the finally,
31:29 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_00]: If we look at men and women who have long been at work for God and have been going through chasiting, we notice that they have lost their individual harshness, lost a great deal of their apparent go ahead andness for God, but they have acquired something else.
31:46 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the most exquisite lily work in their lives.
31:50 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And this, after all, is the thing most like Jesus Christ.
31:54 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_00]: it is the quiet, undisturbable divinity that is characteristic of Jesus, not aggressiveness, and the same as true is of God's children.
32:05 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_00]: That does not mean that our Lord is not aggressive, or that God's children are not aggressive.
32:10 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But it does mean that there is a danger of making so much of the aggressive that we neglect the important aspect, the ministry of the unnoticed,
32:22 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_00]: God will use any number of extraordinary things to chisel the detail of his lily work in his children.
32:29 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_00]: He will use people who are like hedge hawks.
32:33 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He will use difficult circumstances.
32:35 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The weather, he will use anything and everything.
32:38 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what it is and we will always know when God is at work because he produces in the common place
32:52 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_00]: When our Lord described the spiritual life, he always took his illustrations from his father's handiwork, never from man's work.
33:00 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_00]: We take our illustrations from motor cars or aeroplanes or electric light or something go ahead and self-advertising.
33:08 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_00]: We illustrate by means of things which compel our attention.
33:13 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus mentioned things, we are not compelled to look at things that we would pass by.
33:20 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_00]: How many of us notice sparrows and daisies and grass?
33:25 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They are so plentiful that we ignore them, yet it is these things Jesus tells us to consider.
33:31 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: The characteristic of each of these things is implicitness, not explicitness.
33:38 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine a lily if it could speak sing, I am going to be a lily.
33:42 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_00]: A lily obeys the law of its life where it is placed.
33:45 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It is unconscious in its growth.
33:49 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_00]: In Isaiah 477, we read, and you say, I will be a lady forever.
33:56 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_00]: The characteristic of a lady is implicitness, not explicitness.
34:02 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the same way, a Christian is one in whom the indwelling spirit of God shines out all the time.
34:09 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_00]: In the Christian life, the implicit is never conscious.
34:13 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_00]: If it becomes conscious, it ceases to have the unaffected loveliness which is the characteristic of a life of Jesus Christ.
34:21 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Proodery is the outcome of obedience to a principle, whereas according to our Lord, purity is the outcome of an implicit relationship.
34:32 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_00]: If we look upon purity as the outcome of obedience to a particular standard, we produce the opposite of what our Lord intends.
34:41 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, except you become as little children.
34:47 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_00]: If I, then your Lord and Master have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet, John 1314.
35:01 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_00]: a dozen fishermen, a basin of water, a towel, and our Lord washing the feet of the fishermen.
35:09 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Notice the extraordinary climax to John 133.
35:12 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He was come from God and went to God.
35:20 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_00]: How the transfiguration seemed followed on, we would have felt it to be the right order.
35:25 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But,
35:27 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_00]: He rising from supper and laid aside his garments and took on a towel and girded himself.
35:33 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_00]: After that, he pours water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet.
35:38 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Could anything be more sordid and commonplace?
35:44 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But it takes God in Carnot to do the most menial task properly.
35:50 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_00]: We may often use a towel to exhibit a character,
35:55 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever our Lord touched became wonderful.
35:59 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Some people do a certain thing and the way in which they do it, how low is that thing to us forever afterwards.
36:06 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_00]: When our Lord does anything, He always transfigures it.
36:10 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Notice the words that our Lord glorified, a word that was scorned when He came, was the word servant.
36:18 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet Jesus said, I am among you as He that serves, and who, so ever of you, would be chiefist would be servant of all.
36:27 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord took words that were despised and transfigured their meaning.
36:32 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_00]: He did things that were commonplace and sorted an ordinary and transfigured them.
36:37 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord was the unconscious light in the midst of the most ordinary circumstances conceivable.
36:49 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_00]: only after their hearts had been altered did they realize who he was.
36:54 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord lived so ordinary life that no one noticed him.
36:58 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The disciples were first attracted to Jesus by their sense of the heroic and the holy, but it was not until they had received the Holy Spirit that their eyes were opened and they knew him.
37:10 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Could anything
37:12 --> 37:19 [SPEAKER_00]: more startling be imagined than for someone to point out a Nazarene carpenter and say, that man is God incarnate.
37:20 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds blasphemous to a Pharisee.
37:23 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord did not say to his disciples, I have had a most successful time on earth.
37:29 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I have addressed thousands of people and been the means of their salvation.
37:33 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you go and do the same kind of thing."
37:36 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He said,
37:38 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_00]: If I, then your Lord and Master have washed your feet, you also opt to wash one another's feet.
37:47 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, we try to get out of it by washing the feet of those who are not of our own set.
37:53 --> 37:56 [SPEAKER_00]: We will wash the heathens feet, the feet of the slums.
37:57 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_00]: But fancy washing my brothers' feet, my wife's, my husbands, the feet of the minister of my church.
38:09 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_00]: It is the ordinary commonplace circumstances that the unconscious light of God is seen.
38:17 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Year of the Light of the World, Matthew 514.
38:21 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_00]: In the New Testament, World means the system of things, which has been built on God's earth, the system of religion, or of society, or of civilization that ever takes Jesus Christ into account.
38:39 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to take on us a pattern and print of Jesus Christ, not the pattern and print of the world, and immediately we try to be what Jesus wants us to be.
38:49 --> 38:55 [SPEAKER_00]: We will find in the truth of what he said, they will cast out your name as evil.
38:56 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_00]: The camp to which we belong will do it, not the world.
39:00 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It is easier for us to remain true to our camp than to Jesus,
39:09 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And to him, you were the light of the world.
39:13 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We have the idea that we are going to shine in heaven.
39:16 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But we are to shine down here in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, Philippians 215.
39:23 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: We are to shine as lights in the world in the squalid places.
39:26 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And it cannot be done by putting on a brazen smile.
39:30 --> 39:33 [SPEAKER_00]: The light must be there all the time.
39:34 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_00]: You were the light of the world.
39:37 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: We ourselves are to be the light wherever we go, but ever we become conscious of it, we should be amazed as Mary of Bethany must have been amazed that Jesus Christ's interpretation of her active devotion.
39:53 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Mary simply discharged her overburdened heart in a demonstration of affection for Jesus Christ.
40:00 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said that,
40:01 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever this gospel will be preached throughout the whole world, this also, that she has done, will be spoken of for a memorial of her.
40:12 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It gives light to all that are in the house, Matthew 5, 15.
40:18 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The light is to be shown in all the trifling ways of home life.
40:23 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The average evangelical presentation is apt to produce a contempt for the trifling mice.
40:29 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_00]: A preacher of the gospel may be a most objectionable being at home, instead of giving light in the ordinary ways.
40:36 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord tells us to judge the preacher or the teacher by his fruits.
40:43 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Fruit is not the salvation of souls that is God's work.
40:47 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Fruit is the fruit of the Spirit.
40:50 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Love, joy, peace, patience, et cetera.
40:54 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: we get much more concerned about not offending other people than about offending our Lord, our Lord often offended people, but he never put a stumbling block in anyone's way.
41:05 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That they may see your good works, Matthew 5, 16.
41:10 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Lord did not say that you may preach the right thing.
41:14 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It is an easy business to preach and appallingly easy thing to tell other people what to do.
41:20 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It is another thing to have God's message turned into a boomerang.
41:25 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You have been teaching these people that they should be full of peace and joy.
41:28 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But what about yourself?
41:30 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you full of peace and joy?
41:33 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The truth for witness is the one who lets his lights shine in works which exhibit the disposition of Jesus.
41:40 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_00]: One who lives the truth as well as preaches it.
41:44 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_00]: and we ought to lay down our lives of fourth brethren, first John 3.16.
41:50 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_00]: A mother lays down her life for her child and for her home, but there's nothing advertising her doing it.
41:57 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: If the mother were to tell her child what she was doing, it would be an abortion of motherhood.
42:01 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The child will never recognize what the mother has done.
42:06 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_00]: until in years to come the child herself is in the same place then she will recognize the unadvertised substitution of the mother's life and love.
42:16 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what Jesus Christ has done in his redemptive work.
42:21 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Here is where we perceive the love of God because he laid down his life for us and we ought to lay our lives down for the brethren.
42:30 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus Christ was made broken bread and poured
42:36 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And he expects us to be made of broken bread and poured out wine in his hands for others.
42:43 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If we are not thoroughly baked, we will produce indigestion because we are dough instead of bread.
42:50 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_00]: We have to be made into good nutritious stuff for other people.
42:54 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason why we are going through the things that we are is that God wants to know whether he can make us good bread with which to feed others.
43:03 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_00]: The stuff of our lives, not simply our talk, is to be the nutriment of those who know us.
43:12 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And he went down with them and was subject for them.
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Luke 251.
43:17 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And extra ordinary, an extraordinary exhibition of submissiveness.
43:27 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And the disciple is not above his master.
43:30 --> 43:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Think of it.
43:32 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_00]: 30 years at home with His brothers and sisters who did not believe in Him.
43:38 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: We fix on the three years' work extraordinary in our Lord's life and forget altogether the earlier years at home, 30 years of absolute submission.
43:48 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps something of the same kind is happening to you.
43:53 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And you say, I don't know why I should have to submit to this.
43:58 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you any better that Jesus Christ?
44:01 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_00]: as he is so are we in this world.
44:05 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The explanation of it all is our Lord's prayer that they may be one, even as we are one.
44:13 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If God is putting you through a spell of submission and you seem to be losing your individuality and everything else that is because Jesus is making you one with him.
44:31 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was there in the wilderness 40 days, tempted of Satan and was with the wild beasts, Mark 1, 13.
44:38 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_00]: The divine, the desert, the devil, and utter desolation with the wild beasts.
44:46 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_00]: If our Lord endured solitary desolation, why should we consider it strange when we are solitary externally and without comradeship internally?
44:58 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank God we have a shallow life.
45:01 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_00]: We also have a solitary life and it is in the solitary life that we prove whether we are willing to be made the unadvertised life for the community which we belong, whether we are willing to be made bread or simply the advertisement for bread.
45:20 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If we are to be made bread, then we must not be surprised if we are treated in the way our Lord was treated.
45:27 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Grader love has no man than this, but a man lays down his life for his friends.
45:34 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_00]: You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you, John 15, verses 13 and 14.
45:43 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_00]: For a man to lay down his life is not to lay it down in a sudden crisis, such as death, but to lay it down in deliberate toll, as one would lay out a pound note,
45:55 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Not, here it is, take it out and one huge martyrdom and be done with it.
46:01 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a continual substitution whereby we realize we have another day to spend out for Jesus Christ, another opportunity to prove ourselves his friends.
46:29 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_01]: This sermon was preached in Egypt during that time of World War I, and many soldiers said that they took the Bible studies like even while he was alive, they would go out into the field and while they're, you know, doing their fighting and stuff when they had some moments, they would do Bible studies together, like they had been taught by chambers to do.
46:46 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really cool when he died at the time during the war campaign, you were supposed to do a burial on the same day, but the army having appreciated chambers as work with the troops so much to ask for a delay, and they wanted to honor him with a military funeral.
47:02 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So the following day, 100 soldiers accompanied Chambers' flag covered casket on a gun carriage to the old Cairo Cemetery.
47:11 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They carried their rifles pointed down as a sign of respect, lied him among the soldiers and soldiers grave.
47:17 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That being a guy who he was not a soldier, but they saw him as one of them, which think about what the soldiers in World War I were going through and how hard it was to be a volunteer pastor, but to be treated with that much respect.
47:30 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_01]: love and acknowledgement that I mean that tells you what kind of character, what kind of person they thought of him and the YMCA held a big memorial service in that area to a thousand people crammed into a YMCA hut or tent there to remember him and again
47:45 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a volunteer.
47:46 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_01]: These guys were getting shot at.
47:47 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: These guys were going through hard times.
47:49 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And this one guy met that much to them.
47:52 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it would be easy for chambers to wonder, you know, does this ministry to these soldiers matter?
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They're seeing death day in a day out.
48:00 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_01]: How what can I possibly say that would make a difference to them?
48:02 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But clearly his ministry, very much what noticed.
48:19 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for listening to today's episode of Revive Thought.
48:23 --> 48:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Today's sermon was narrated by Pastor Ed Beckel.
48:26 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Big thanks to Pastor Ed.
48:29 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a regular.
48:30 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a regular.
48:31 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_02]: He does a great job and we're very appreciative of him.
48:34 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We're extremely grateful for all of our speakers, Pastor Ed Beckell has done so many.
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's actually got another one already finished for us.
48:41 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the Cotton May, they're part two of his sermon to Pirates, which is really great.
48:46 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a part two of the sermon.
48:47 --> 48:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got another sermon.
48:48 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Cotton May, they're did a second sermon to Pirates.
48:50 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a cool story, just like the last one.
48:52 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So I can't wait for that one to go out here in a while.
48:55 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, Joe, I got a minute.
48:56 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You're being pretty humble.
48:57 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't admit that you've been to this cemetery and seen this gravestone that I just mentioned and ran.
49:02 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_01]: you have.
49:03 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you're a couple of years old, but I needed to get that out there that our man Joel here on the other side has actually visited this spot.
49:10 --> 49:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So, pretty cool.
49:11 --> 49:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, last thing I'll say, thank you for listening to this episode so much.
49:15 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to join our cool speaker podcast lists, if you eventually maybe you don't want to be a regular, maybe you just like the contribute one voice, help bring one great sermon back.
49:24 --> 49:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe listen for a while and you would like to, maybe not, maybe your brand new, maybe cool, maybe you'd like to be a right, maybe send it like us to say your name and say we're so grateful for all the sermons they've done for us.
49:34 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Please send them your send a name.
49:36 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Let us get you in contact.
49:37 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_01]: This show is run completely by volunteers.
49:40 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We all do it because we love it and so many, so many people have added their voices to these great sermons of history and we would love for you to do so too.
49:49 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: If you have
49:50 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_01]: you know any kind of access to any kind of microphone that's all we need to get you going.
49:53 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And even these days with all the different audio gadgets that's not nearly as rough for us as it was back in the day.
49:59 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of people can do it.
50:01 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_01]: We just need to hear that you want to.
50:03 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So send us an email and say, hey, I'd like to add the voice in and we'll get you started.
50:07 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: This is Troy and Joel and this is for Vy thoughts.