Troy goes through the French Revolution and tells the often never discussed upon religious side of the French Revolution. The story of why they hated the church, what they did to the church, and how they replaced the church is one worth knowing today.
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[00:02:06] Which is our very long one, where we do multiple hours on something and we talk about it a lot.
[00:02:12] And we really do. We do. If you haven't listened to those, usually they're for the
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[00:02:24] We have a type-ing rebellion episode that should honestly be coming out any day now.
[00:02:29] So that would be great for the Patreons. We'll get the opportunity to listen to that.
[00:02:32] But if you haven't listened, go check out the London Fire episode.
[00:02:34] You may wonder why I want to listen to something about a fire in London.
[00:02:38] But I promise you people who have listened to it, we have several people who comment and go,
[00:02:41] man, how is this not a book? I've never heard this story before. And that's
[00:02:44] what our deep dives usually are. Stories you've never heard before.
[00:02:46] Type-ing rebellion and the Ethiopian history and just stuff. Or stories maybe you know
[00:02:51] a little bit about like Joan of Arc, the first crusade or the Salemish trials,
[00:02:55] but told at a very deep level. So you really come out of it, I think, understanding.
[00:02:59] And this episode really isn't any of those. This is much more like our Woodrow Wilson
[00:03:03] part one and two. The last time I was by myself, I had a story I wanted to tell.
[00:03:08] There was another one we did too. It's called something like Monster or something.
[00:03:11] It's a really good episode. We had a lot of people love that one too.
[00:03:14] It's preaching the gospel to monsters or something like that from two years ago.
[00:03:18] And these are the stories I can't really fit into the normal flow of revived thoughts
[00:03:22] with the sermons. But they're still things I think we should talk about.
[00:03:25] And they're really, in my opinion, interesting parts of church history
[00:03:29] that don't get explored very often. But I didn't want to do a deep dive on this one.
[00:03:32] I'm actually glad this opportunity came up because it was on my list.
[00:03:35] It was going to be the next one we did after the typing rebellion was going to be the French
[00:03:39] Revolution. But if I'm honest, even you probably hearing just the words French Revolution,
[00:03:46] you just teleported back to high school history class and being bored probably as
[00:03:50] someone droned on and on and on and a bunch of French names went by
[00:03:54] and you just didn't understand it. And that's how I feel about it.
[00:03:57] And I've had to teach it and I understand the French Revolution,
[00:04:00] there's just something about teaching that subject that just is doesn't interest a lot of us.
[00:04:06] I mean, maybe you're a big French Revolution guy and you found this podcast from this,
[00:04:09] you couldn't wait to find more French Revolution talk.
[00:04:12] But I think most of us when we hear the French Revolution, our eyes dole over,
[00:04:15] our eyes, we glaze over and we are back in that history class that we didn't find very
[00:04:19] interesting. And I actually think this episode to me explained why without realizing that
[00:04:25] there's been a piece of the French Revolution that's been hidden from us.
[00:04:29] And when I discovered this recently, actually completely by accident,
[00:04:33] when I discovered this, I went, oh my goodness, that is I think what's missing or at least a
[00:04:38] big part of what's missing and our understanding of the French Revolution.
[00:04:42] If I can just do a very short summary, one, you know, start of the clock,
[00:04:47] one minute, I think I'm gonna do this. The French people were upset with their king.
[00:04:51] They wanted to overthrow them. They had been, you know,
[00:04:53] milked all these ideas of enlightenment thinking and they overthrew their king.
[00:04:58] Some people say the king was really bad. Other people say actually this particular king wasn't
[00:05:01] that bad, but maybe the taste of the old King Louis the 14th, the Sun King was in their eyes.
[00:05:06] And they overthrew the king. The mobs went crazy. Soon they were killing everybody.
[00:05:12] Then they were killing rich people. And then they started killing themselves.
[00:05:15] And then a guy named Robes Pierre took over and he started killing everybody,
[00:05:18] but then he died and then nobody was in charge. And a bunch of governments came and went and then
[00:05:22] by the end of it Napoleon takes over and starts a war with everyone. And Napoleon for me,
[00:05:26] I think a lot of us is when the story gets interesting, you know, like this guy is a soldier,
[00:05:30] rises through the ranks on his own talents and leaves the way. And that's the half that's
[00:05:34] interesting. The first half is just so confusing. It's hard to be interested,
[00:05:38] in my opinion, by it. And yet I will say after I worked on this episode today,
[00:05:44] I was like, this is the piece we've been missing. This is the story of the French Revolution that
[00:05:49] hasn't been told to us yet or at least was not told to me. And when I learned this, it made me much
[00:05:54] more interested in the French Revolution because it makes more sense. There's been an element
[00:05:59] missing and that element in my opinion is the faith where and why did a bunch of Christians
[00:06:09] in France? Because this is about only 150 years after the oxen are 200 years.
[00:06:14] It's after the Reformation, but this is supposed in France's Catholic. So make that clear. France's
[00:06:19] Catholic, if you listen to the least episode on the Huguenots, which were French Protestants
[00:06:23] and martyrs and missionaries, France was going after Protestants all over the world.
[00:06:27] France was not a part of the Reformation, but France should have been a somewhat Christian country.
[00:06:33] What happened here that led to this madness and this mob? And we're going to look at that.
[00:06:38] And I think when we go through this story, we will understand it. One way to look at this
[00:06:43] story is there. I had heard this a long time ago. There was this kind of beginning idea was
[00:06:48] there's this conversation that did happen. We don't know exactly what was said, but there was a
[00:06:52] common conversation between three different people starts with Thomas Payne and Thomas Payne
[00:06:57] is the author of common sense. He was one of the most influential people in the American
[00:07:01] Revolution. His pamphlets and words helped get America going. His encouragement during America's
[00:07:07] darkest days were a very pivotal part of the revolution. And he would write, you know, we don't
[00:07:13] need I can't remember the exact phrasing, but we don't need sunshine soldiers, but we need men who
[00:07:18] go through the winter. You know, he was out there encouraging the soldiers to keep fighting for
[00:07:22] what America was going to be during the American Revolution. And he gets into an argument
[00:07:28] with George Washington, President of the United States and basically says, why are we not
[00:07:33] sending soldiers and supporting the revolution in France? France had our back and helped us fight
[00:07:40] for liberty. Why is America not going to get her back and to support her during her own revolution?
[00:07:48] And Thomas Jefferson was the other person in the room, and he was signing with George Washington
[00:07:53] because he was his boss, but you know, he's the deck, the sign of the Declaration of
[00:07:56] Independence or all that. He's the guy. He's all about, you know, liberty and justice
[00:08:01] for all. Why, why aren't we going to help out France? Why didn't we send our soldiers?
[00:08:06] But George Washington was firm with Thomas Paine. He said it is not the same revolution.
[00:08:12] We will not get a part of it. And Thomas Paine kind of bitterly leaves, you know,
[00:08:16] yells and shouts out, I will not leave them alone. I will go to France and help them.
[00:08:20] I can't believe America would turn their back on this is cry for freedom.
[00:08:23] And then, you know, he got personal with George. He was basically, I can't believe you
[00:08:27] turned your back on them during this moment. And George Washington told him,
[00:08:32] you are free to go. It's a free country, right? But we will not save you if you get imprisoned
[00:08:37] or in trouble in France. America will not send soldiers will not put pressure on France.
[00:08:42] You are going outside of our protection as an American citizen and you take this risk
[00:08:46] on your own. And Thomas Paine left in a fury. He was mad. And this was the last
[00:08:51] time he would ever be in the room of either Thomas Jefferson or George Washington.
[00:08:55] Thomas Paine will arrive in France. He will fight for the revolution.
[00:09:00] At one point, he will be placed in jail and he believes he's going to die in that jail where he
[00:09:05] will scribble down the notes of paper of a book he's been working on, on God during that time
[00:09:10] in prison. He writes it down fearful that he will be executed before his great book is
[00:09:16] written. And it's a good reason that he did that he thought he would be because in 1793,
[00:09:21] the executioner went past every single door that was going to be in that prison that he was in
[00:09:26] and put a mark on the door where the inhabitant was, if they got that mark that meant they would be
[00:09:31] executed. And Paine got that mark on his door, which meant that he should have died. However,
[00:09:37] when they marked his door, he had visitors at the time. And so the way the guard had rubbed
[00:09:42] the mark on the door, I'd have been on like a slightly open door. And when the door was
[00:09:47] shut later, when the visitors were gone, when they came to get everyone who was on a marked door,
[00:09:53] his door was shut and it was that part of it that was shut that covered up the mark.
[00:09:59] If it had not been for the slightly open door and this one literally a door, a jar with some
[00:10:04] friends over had the guard been a slightly more careful, his door would have been marked
[00:10:09] and he would have been taken out and executed. That's how close Thomas Paine got to being
[00:10:14] executed during the French Revolution. It was a slip up of a guard marking doors with chalk
[00:10:20] and a door happening to be open that saved his life. So when he was in that moment,
[00:10:26] when he's in jail thinking I'm going to die, he began writing a book that would eventually
[00:10:30] be called The Age of Reason. And if you have not read this book, you have not missed out on
[00:10:35] much. It is one of the most anti-God screeds you will ever read. I say this to somebody
[00:10:41] who has read it and I will say it was not an easy book to read. I would not recommend reading it.
[00:10:49] I would say it's a book that if you're not firm in your faith, it will shake you up a bit. I was
[00:10:53] firm in my faith and I am firm in my faith. I love Jesus Christ with all my heart and the
[00:10:57] Bible is in there in word but it did challenge me and I read it and I was like these are tough
[00:11:02] questions I had to go through and I couldn't read a lot. I had to go to commentaries and
[00:11:06] read other things. I found actually a person who responded to the book when it was published and
[00:11:11] they would write letters back and forth and so I read his answers to Thomas Paine's questions.
[00:11:15] I found they were very satisfactory but it was not a book that just I felt at the time when I
[00:11:20] read it 10 years ago that I could answer all the questions that it brought up about the
[00:11:24] Bible on my own. It's a very anti-God book and many have said it's one of the most damaging
[00:11:29] books that has ever been written to people's faith. It is just such an attack and it just
[00:11:35] comes off like it you know in today's world it'd be like an angry atheist Reddit page but I mean
[00:11:39] it is it is an insane attack on the Bible that really challenged and broke a lot of people's
[00:11:45] faith. That's what he was scribbling down on pieces of paper in that jail cell and when he
[00:11:49] realized of course he did eventually not get executed he put it into a book. Now Paine wrote
[00:11:54] a letter to George Washington while he was in France basically hoping it would arrive
[00:12:00] on his birthday so while France was suffering he wrote a letter getting it to George Washington
[00:12:04] on his birthday where he called him an apostate. He gave up on freedom. You're a military commander
[00:12:11] but you don't deserve praise because you're deep down a coward and this letter he did not
[00:12:17] get a reply from it so then he published it basically showing to everyone Thomas Paine was
[00:12:20] so angry. Everyone here Washington's a loser, a coward and he didn't stand up for France
[00:12:26] but Washington never changed his mind and he refused to respond to anything Paine did.
[00:12:31] He never changed his mind. He was firm on this point. What happened in France,
[00:12:35] the revolution happening in France is not the same kind of revolution. Why? What was so different
[00:12:42] about what happened in France? Well and to be honest I don't know that we really think about
[00:12:48] this but what one of the biggest differences that really dawned on me was this faith aspect.
[00:12:55] When I started to learn what was going on in the religion of the people of France
[00:12:59] I learned a bunch of stuff I'd never heard before and then I went this is what was different.
[00:13:04] This Washington was correct. You don't see any of the stuff we're about to talk about happening in
[00:13:08] the American Revolution at all not even close. The American Revolution, the preachers in America
[00:13:14] were preaching why they were not breaking God's law in Romans 13 and encouraging their people
[00:13:21] now there are people who disagree with that but they were very firm. We need to be by the
[00:13:24] book and here's the reasons we are sticking with the book even though we're rebelling.
[00:13:29] In France nothing like that is happening so this is going to be something we take a look at from
[00:13:34] this Christian perspective. Now the spiritual and religious aspects of this revolution that are
[00:13:42] not often talked about to understand it we have to go back to the early 1700s because
[00:13:48] it would be easy to say wow France just kind of loses her mind and does a bunch of weird stuff
[00:13:52] but that's not fair to France. In the early 1700s there was this idea of the absolute monarchies
[00:13:59] these ideas that these kings could do whatever they wanted and the quintessential guy who
[00:14:04] emblems that more than anybody is the guy who called himself the Sun King, King Louis the 14th.
[00:14:10] Again if you remember this history class it might be the part where he glazed over but stick with
[00:14:13] me because we're going to get to the wild stuff here in a minute. King Louis the 14th was
[00:14:18] in charge and he believed he had a divine right to rule. The kings basically were told
[00:14:22] you Romans 13 everyone has to submit to you're the king God put you there to rule over
[00:14:26] so anything you do is right because you're the governing authority now they should have said
[00:14:31] that you have to submit to God's laws and to a degree they did like they didn't just you know
[00:14:37] murder everybody they saw or something like that but at the same time whatever they did was right
[00:14:42] because they were ordained by God so they had to be listened to and King Louis the 14th
[00:14:47] really was that. Now part of it was because when he was young the nobles came up to him while
[00:14:52] he was still a kid basically and they threatened him and basically said we will kill you and this
[00:14:57] terrified and broke him he never forgot about it and when he got older he made the nobles pay
[00:15:02] he built the palace of Versailles and he made basically the nobles live there and serve them
[00:15:08] every morning you had to be at breakfast you had to be waiting you had to be around him if
[00:15:12] you were not in court for any reason you were left out on the important happenings maybe you
[00:15:16] wouldn't get the next business deal that comes through or maybe your family would be falling
[00:15:20] in favor because you weren't around the palace 24-7 and that's how he ran the show he treated
[00:15:26] them I mean when you read how he treats them it's almost like they're pets like they got to do whatever
[00:15:30] he says they got to run with him walk with him if he goes for a walk they have to follow behind
[00:15:34] him I mean they are literally treated like dogs and he never again now clearly never forgot
[00:15:39] how they treated him and how he would get back at them for it that's the power of King Louis
[00:15:45] the 14th this is the era that these people are growing up in and the church is enabling
[00:15:51] and a big part of why they have so much power a man was born during this time his name is
[00:15:57] François-Aireau Verrall and I am super super super sorry to all our French listeners I do
[00:16:04] not speak French and I don't know if I got that name right at all you don't maybe don't
[00:16:08] know that name anyway because his pen name is much more famous his name is Voltaire he was
[00:16:13] born in the late 1600s and he would live through this time of King Louis the 14th and he saw this
[00:16:22] king who believed he was ordained by God to do whatever he wanted he saw the power of the Catholic
[00:16:27] church at this time in France and he hated the church and he hated everything about what he saw
[00:16:35] and here's one of the problems with the French Revolution I think it's one of the reasons why
[00:16:39] we really struggle with understanding the scene the American Revolution at least if you're American
[00:16:42] right America's good Britain's bad I'm sure if you're a British listener going hey we'll hold
[00:16:46] up their colonial I understand but the point is there's at least kind of you know in a lot of
[00:16:51] World War II Hitler bad America good right like we get we have some Britain good you know
[00:16:57] Russia but I don't know you can have some good guys bad guys stuff going on here I know Russia
[00:17:02] if you're about to ride in and go Russia was on the ally side remember that in the
[00:17:06] beginning Russia was not on the ally side so actually there you go however also the way Russia
[00:17:13] was on the ally side no it's not a World War II podcast we're gonna stick with what we're doing here
[00:17:16] okay I'm not going on that one sorry however during during this time well the problem is the
[00:17:22] good guys the people that the revolution is happening against aren't really good guys at all
[00:17:27] and you kind of have to side with the peasants a little bit the Catholic Church running
[00:17:31] France at that time was doing an atrocious job the priests were not taxable they made
[00:17:37] absolutely tons of money they were a part of us I think called the second estate that's first
[00:17:41] estate the third estate but basically they were rich powerful people that nobody could touch
[00:17:45] because the government protected them and they helped protect the government and they made money
[00:17:49] while the peasants struggled deeply under all of this and the peasants of France were struggling
[00:17:54] especially at the French and Indian War they had to pay for an expensive war between France and
[00:17:58] Britain that they lost and so not only did they not win the war but they had to pay for the price of
[00:18:03] that and that caused a lot of problems whereas the peasants were struggling to afford food yet the
[00:18:08] untaxed priests were making tons of money the bishops were living the high life the the elites of
[00:18:13] Paris were doing just fine and so there's a part of you where you look at all this and you go
[00:18:19] and then I can see why you'd want a revolution I get it the way things were going in France
[00:18:24] was terrible and this is one of those situations where that the church is going to receive irreparable
[00:18:30] harm from the French Revolution but it was her own fault for getting involved in politics
[00:18:35] and for getting her first duty to share Christ and to take care of the poor and do those things
[00:18:41] that God called us to do in the Bible the church had long left that duty and now you're seeing in
[00:18:46] some ways the comeuppance come but it's at the expense and harm of everyone else and so
[00:18:51] it's just a bad situation and you wish you could go back in time and just get all of these
[00:18:55] French Christians to stop persecuting her eugannots for starters but then to live like
[00:19:00] Christians help the poor and take care of people and it's important to note some of them were
[00:19:05] there were always some people who were doing those things it's just the majority of them didn't
[00:19:09] seem to be now Voltaire this guy growing up at this time he is an important person because he
[00:19:14] really I won't say he's the only atheist and he would say he's not an atheist
[00:19:19] but he's basically your YouTube channel Angriathias in a sense he's much smarter than that but he is
[00:19:24] right and he's not the only one but he's very clever in his attacks for example the church would
[00:19:31] censor what you could write so he could not write direct attacks against the church he couldn't
[00:19:34] say the church is stealing all our money but he found a way around that so instead he would say
[00:19:40] did you hear what so-and-so said they're saying the church is stealing all our money and
[00:19:44] they're building all these things and they're enjoying this and they're making money off of
[00:19:47] us and they just harm us and he would write this long thing about what so-and-so said it would be all
[00:19:52] his true beliefs and then he would end it with but thank goodness we know France would never do that
[00:19:56] or something like that it's a little pithy quote at the end to say oh but this you know that is
[00:20:00] worthless you know he's just saying that but through that France can't censor him because
[00:20:04] technically it's not his beliefs and he he rebuts it at the end right and so he came
[00:20:09] up with these clever things he could do to get away with attacking him and that actually
[00:20:13] made him more popular because his sarcasm was so clever he was funny guy and people were like yeah
[00:20:19] that's that's such a good he was a resistance guy and people really liked it and again he
[00:20:25] look I love Jesus Christ but if I lived as a peasant in France and I saw the church that
[00:20:30] was being represented to me and this guy was attacking them I would be tempted of course
[00:20:36] I probably couldn't read it but I would be tempted to go with him right because
[00:20:41] the church I'm seeing is not the bride of Christ as she's supposed to be and someone out there is
[00:20:46] pointing that out and I think that was very persuasive to a lot of people and again if
[00:20:51] Christ's people had been doing what they were supposed to do none of this would have happened
[00:20:55] I mean any of the arguments against God and the Bible that we hear today were actually
[00:21:00] popularized by Voltaire let me hear if you've ever heard of this one Jesus was never really
[00:21:05] God he was just a good man and later on they made him God this is a quote from him
[00:21:09] Christian spent three whole centuries in constructing little by little the apotheosis that is the
[00:21:13] raising to the status of God of Jesus at first Jesus was regarded as merely a man he was inspired
[00:21:18] maybe by God but then he was a creature better than others sometime after that he was given a
[00:21:22] place above the angels that St. Paul says and of every day they added more and more until he
[00:21:27] became an emanation of God manifested in time but still that was not enough he had to be
[00:21:32] he was held to be born before time and finally he was God co-substantial with God
[00:21:38] you ever heard that argument before it's a classic atheist argument right that Jesus wasn't really
[00:21:43] God we made him in the God leader there are many of those arguments and that Voltaire was also very
[00:21:49] clever he basically would put out there like we don't want I agree with so much of the teaching
[00:21:54] of the Bible it's just the supernatural stuff that's in the way you know and that happens
[00:21:58] today too old people would tell people about Jesus's teachings right but don't don't tell
[00:22:02] them about the the feeding the 5000 that just gets in the way of belief we hear that from
[00:22:07] people still today and a lot of those early attacks a lot of that stuff that higher criticism would
[00:22:12] almost develop completely from this line of thinking started with Voltaire now Voltaire was also he
[00:22:19] would attack atheists he said he was now he always said he wasn't atheist I personally not so sure
[00:22:25] I wonder if he attacked atheists just to kind of defend himself but he said he was never an
[00:22:29] atheist he said atheists are just dumb there has to be a God I just don't think it's the
[00:22:33] Christian God I don't think Jesus Christ is that God Voltaire believed that in his day he was living
[00:22:38] in quote the twilight of Christianity the ending days the closing son of Christianity
[00:22:43] in a lot of ways during Christianity's height in some ways at France however he was correct
[00:22:49] and he also said every sensible man every honorable man must hold the Christian religion
[00:22:54] and horror now Voltaire was not the only philosopher in this part of France who or Europe
[00:22:58] who was doing this Russo is over in Geneva writing very similar things at the same time
[00:23:03] and there are other people that we will quote too who are very much against Christianity but
[00:23:07] why I really focus on Voltaire is because he became so popular Voltaire was more than just a
[00:23:14] writer in fact he realized early on the publishers make most of his money when you write books
[00:23:19] and he also worried he would be censored and he worried that if I'm censored and I'm poor
[00:23:23] I'm going to change what I write to make more money and he didn't want to do that
[00:23:27] at one point he has to flee he insulted a man and they had this guy beat him up Voltaire began
[00:23:33] taking fences fencing classes to avenge his honor and challenge this guy to a duel but the family of
[00:23:38] the man who threatened him found out they ended up going to jail at one point then he flees to
[00:23:42] England it's all very confusing but he ends up in England while he's there he learns how
[00:23:46] to invest money and shifts for trade and he begins to make a ton of money doing that
[00:23:51] because a very successful businessman you know saying hey that ship goes to India to trade
[00:23:57] stuff I'm not I'm not sure what you trade did but whatever it is you trade I want to put some money
[00:24:01] down and when it comes back pay me for part of that money right and he made a lot of money doing
[00:24:05] that in England he also saw England at the time had a free press you could write whatever you
[00:24:09] wanted he went wow this is amazing why doesn't France have this I'm going to go do everything
[00:24:13] I can to get France like this because it's messed up that France doesn't have this over the
[00:24:18] years he also became friends with very wealthy men and if you're the wealthy guy and you
[00:24:22] like to sin and you live in this kind of quasi sort of Christian sort of
[00:24:28] not Christian world of France you like to people like Voltaire and specifically two guys
[00:24:33] known as the Pire brothers very wealthy became his friends and would help go in on businesses with
[00:24:37] them by his 40s he was a millionaire and no one could tell him what the publish he could write
[00:24:42] whatever he wanted because he didn't care if the publishers made money he was fine
[00:24:45] he would travel around Europe I literally the number of countries he would go to and
[00:24:48] become part of their court and then flee off to another country it was several of them I mean more
[00:24:53] than most people in their lifetime he would run around Europe for decades getting into the court
[00:24:58] of Geneva the court of Russia the dissent the other eventually he ends up back in France the whole
[00:25:05] time he's writing to France he's writing articles he's writing things getting them published becoming
[00:25:10] very popular for a guy who's not living there he writes books like Candide and he wrote plays
[00:25:15] too he wrote several plays people loved his plays they thought they were so witty and smart
[00:25:20] because he knew just how to attack the system just how to attack the pope and the and the priests
[00:25:26] and France without getting in trouble so you could laugh you could have a good time and all
[00:25:31] this just jokes it's just fun come on Voltaire is not that bad while he's saying while he was
[00:25:35] getting his message out it was very very good at that he spent three decades away from Paris
[00:25:42] but after 30 years in 1778 he returned to Paris and he was a rock star he was a celebrity they loved
[00:25:49] him they celebrated them people were selling Voltaire merchandise like pictures of him on shirts
[00:25:54] kind of thing I don't think they had maybe pictures of sure but they were selling merchandise of his
[00:25:59] and it was quotes and stuff they went crazy for him and the church even came to him when he
[00:26:03] got there and said hey if you'll just deny your anti-god materials we want to honor you we want
[00:26:07] to make you like an honorary guy and give you some awards we just can't with all your anti-god stuff
[00:26:13] Voltaire said no I'm not going to do that I stand by every word I said if you want to honor me
[00:26:18] honor me but I'm not changing the thing I said when he died he was added to the French pantheon
[00:26:24] and it was so in some ways seems like it was almost created for him where they put him as
[00:26:28] one of the great figures of all France's history Napoleon III not being Napoleon Bonaparte you're
[00:26:33] thinking of by his grandson or grand-nephew I think it is actually had his heart removed and
[00:26:38] brought to a museum in Paris so that they could be here and the guy who embalmed him actually took
[00:26:42] his brain out and kept it out as like family thing they had the brain of Voltaire for like
[00:26:47] 100 years and then eventually the guy who that family guy who had the brain of Voltaire
[00:26:52] traded it for seats at the opera and he got 20 years worth of seats for trading that brain
[00:26:57] in to a museum or something very strange so that's Voltaire and what the reason I quote him is
[00:27:03] because one woman said at the time he was the greatest celebrity of Europe he had so much of his
[00:27:07] reputation so much of his popularity was I don't like the church I don't like God and I'm against
[00:27:14] this and the fact that a man like that would be considered so popular at least among the elites
[00:27:19] tells you where they're at right you know I was showing a list of my students the top
[00:27:24] billboard songs and who were the singers and stuff like this the other day and one of my
[00:27:28] students made the point he said you know you don't ever see Christian music at the top of
[00:27:32] those billboards do you and I said no he said that kind of tells you that the billboard people
[00:27:39] the people listening to music are not very Christian I was like that I think that's very true what
[00:27:42] you're listening to what's popular is somewhat you know because of reverse if the top billboard 100
[00:27:48] was amazing grace followed by you know as can it be and some some of the others if it was all
[00:27:53] songs we sing in church right um that would tell you something about those people the fact that
[00:27:57] they're all almost anti-God songs that tells you a different story doesn't it and that's kind of the
[00:28:03] situation Voltaire is in the fact that a guy would be this popular he'd be this famous that he'd be
[00:28:08] this big before the revolution happens tells you where the heart and spiritual thoughts of
[00:28:15] France and in a lot of ways Europe especially France was at that time it really demonstrates
[00:28:20] where they feel they are against the church and they are against God and what's about to
[00:28:26] happen in France even though he dies in 70 78 11 years before the revolution truly kicks off
[00:28:31] but what's about to happen in France is this anti-God sentiment and the reason I think we struggle
[00:28:36] to really understand the French Revolution and and care about the French Revolution
[00:28:39] is because that part of it has been obscured to us that this was a giant move against God and
[00:28:44] the church and when you don't have that peace it to me I understood that peace I said this
[00:28:50] revolution makes way more sense it wasn't random it wasn't just mobs it was an anti-God
[00:28:55] and anti-church movement now that's not to say there weren't people who were fighting for God
[00:29:00] and fighting for the church in this movement there were there were some people looking around
[00:29:04] going look I'm not signing up on all that okay I am still Catholic but you will see that that is
[00:29:08] not the majority in this situation Voltaire was extremely popular another French philosopher
[00:29:14] Diderot was quoted saying man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
[00:29:20] of the last priest so that's a lot of hate for God and the priest right the last king must be
[00:29:26] strangled with the intestines of the last priest another baron de holbach holbach as I said I'm
[00:29:32] not French a religion has ever filled the mind of man with darkness and kept him in ignorance
[00:29:37] of the real duties of true interest it is only by dispelling these clouds and phantoms of
[00:29:42] religion that we shall discover truth reason and morality religion diverts us from the cause of
[00:29:47] evil and from the remedies which nature prescribes far from curing it aggravates multiplies and
[00:29:52] perpetuates it now you have these kinds of people saying things like this and then you have a
[00:29:57] revolution right afterwards you got to know this was a part of it and this definitely was a big
[00:30:01] part of it now these are just some of the feelings we could keep going on and on but I
[00:30:05] think you get the idea this is there's a large movement here against God now I'm going to
[00:30:11] try to side swipe the confusing aspects of the French Revolution it's impossible to completely
[00:30:16] sideswipe it reminds me of England's glorious revolution there's just certain or sorry there's
[00:30:21] civil war they had there's just certain things that happen and you kind of go okay this is really
[00:30:26] confusing what's going on especially I don't know if it's because we live in a I'm an American
[00:30:30] I don't live in America but I'm from America and we just don't have all these kings and
[00:30:33] queens and families and stuff to me this doesn't quite really just add up and how you do things
[00:30:38] but I get lost when you start naming these things with the French Revolution there's a national
[00:30:42] convention there's a tennis court assembly there's all these different things happening and I'm going
[00:30:47] to skip most of that that's not because that's not what we're here to do we're looking at what's
[00:30:50] going on with the church and what's going on with the government and that's where we're
[00:30:54] going to really take our focus and be at the first thing that they do in 1789 they begin
[00:30:59] overthrowing the government and it's 1789 that one of the first things the new French
[00:31:03] government does is it immediately eliminates the tithing of the Catholic Church now I looked
[00:31:08] in multiple places and maybe I just couldn't find it but I could not figure out was the Catholic
[00:31:12] Church tithing like forcing you to pay 10% or were they just collecting tithe like everywhere I
[00:31:17] read it was like they just collected a tithe but I think it was actually on some level forced
[00:31:21] by the power of government because the Catholic Church was very powerful they owned 10% of the
[00:31:26] lands of France and they were collecting a tithe on top of that and you couldn't tax them you
[00:31:32] couldn't do anything about it that made them a very powerful powerful force and the businesses
[00:31:37] and things the priests got involved in you couldn't touch well they immediately began confiscating
[00:31:42] all of that land the tide was over and all of that land was now taken by the government
[00:31:46] and you could not interfere with them and now they now one thing they did say that we as
[00:31:51] moderns might like was they said hey the church no longer has power censorship say what you
[00:31:55] want to say everything is tolerated now there's no they can't force you to have any religious
[00:32:00] beliefs and most of us would say that seems good right we shouldn't have the have a group of people
[00:32:06] controlling everyone's speech at the same time though they're confiscating all of the church's
[00:32:11] lands that had been maybe government protected up until that point but all this all at once it's
[00:32:15] gone now 1790 they started to pass a much more strict set of rules to reign in their mind
[00:32:23] reign in the Catholic Church now even though there was a lot of anti-catholic sentiment
[00:32:27] the average peasant still liked the Catholic Church especially like the elites in Paris had
[00:32:32] their view but if you were living out in the middle of nowhere as a farmer the Catholic
[00:32:35] Church was everything to you and so when you see this revolution happening you see these things
[00:32:40] happening in Paris you're not happy about it and there's actually going to be a big revolt
[00:32:45] that happens against some of this stuff because they're like hey we're not with you Paris
[00:32:48] you're doing this on your own it wasn't just Paris but the major cities especially Paris
[00:32:52] now at least on paper the law of 1790 was just to control the Catholic Church's power
[00:32:58] but it immediately was turned into a law that harmed the church and what they basically said
[00:33:03] was here's the things you can do here's the things you can't do oh and you have to pledge
[00:33:07] to sign your fealty your loyalty to the French government you're no longer working for the
[00:33:14] Catholic Church we're starting like a new Catholic Church you're still Catholic but you're under
[00:33:18] our control now well the Catholic priests didn't want to sign that because they're like hey I answered
[00:33:25] to Rome I answered the Pope and if you're a Protestant you're going you shouldn't answer
[00:33:28] to anything I understand I'm with you on that right I'm also with you but anyway they're
[00:33:32] going hey I don't want to answer the French government I've promised to serve Rome here's
[00:33:38] one of the quotes from it that this document before the ceremony of consecration begins
[00:33:42] the bishop-elect shall take a solemn oath in the presence of the officers of the people
[00:33:46] and of the clergy to guard with care the faithful of his diocese who are confided to him to be loyal
[00:33:51] to the nation the law and the king and to support with all his power the constitution decreed by the
[00:33:55] national assembly and accepted by the king so you see he must now be loyal to the nation
[00:34:02] France comes first and you can no longer serve God even just there's no God there
[00:34:07] you're serving God second to serving France and many of the priests saw that and said
[00:34:13] no I'm not going to sign that that's absolutely silly I won't sign that I serve France before God
[00:34:19] I won't say that I serve France before the Pope I'm not gonna sign I serve France before the church
[00:34:24] I love France maybe but I'm not signing that well this immediately got you suspected you were now
[00:34:31] immediately in trouble and your salary just got revoked France is not going to pay for you if you
[00:34:35] won't sign this document and you had to now come to court and they suspected everybody
[00:34:40] who wasn't with them of being a traitor in 1792 the French government began to come up with new
[00:34:45] ways to kind of get they want it on to the public they will tell you hey the church needs to be reigned
[00:34:51] in but in private it was also we're fighting wars with a bunch of countries right now during the
[00:34:55] French Revolution and France's churches are sitting on a lot of money how can we get some of that
[00:35:00] money they literally one of them said like hey they're sitting on 100 million levers I don't
[00:35:05] know what that is French money back then but it must have been a lot because they were like how
[00:35:08] can we get some of that all priests were now in this new law set up as you are automatically suspect
[00:35:15] of being a counter-revolutionary a being against the revolution if you are a priest by virtue and if
[00:35:20] you don't sign this pledge we automatically suspect you have hurting us during the French Revolution
[00:35:24] there was a counter revolution where people try to fight back it was unsuccessful but it did
[00:35:29] cause problems and France was in the middle of wars with other countries France didn't have
[00:35:34] time to deal with the counter-revolution happening inside and they saw the priest
[00:35:37] as a big part of that problem and to be fair I'm sure some of the priests were against what
[00:35:42] France was doing and were a part of that counter-revolutionary movement so you know maybe to give
[00:35:47] some credit to the French Revolution that was probably a fair assessment that some priests were
[00:35:50] doing that in September of 1792 specifically a time period called the September massacres
[00:35:57] priests were highlighted as groups to be killed three high ranking bishops were
[00:36:02] were killed in front of the crowd followed by 200 more priests were done so they were not alone
[00:36:07] these were just some of the members of the September massacres and lions they had priests executed by
[00:36:12] the hundreds by drowning and rocafort they were putting them in prison to suffer all over the
[00:36:18] place they were beginning to turn on and kill priests because they were seen as working for
[00:36:22] the other side and they were also and not just priests nuns as well were being drowned
[00:36:27] for simply the act of being a nun being a priest if you won't agree to sign our pledge
[00:36:32] you must be working for the enemies this got even worse in 1793 the law suspects were passed
[00:36:39] now even if you sign the pledge we still don't trust you until you prove your loyalty to us
[00:36:44] if you're a priest you can be suspected and killed at any moment you didn't even really
[00:36:48] have to go to trial you we suspect you as a priest by just being a priest you must be a bad
[00:36:54] person they also began to destroy all of the church bells across France all of those big bells
[00:37:01] gone crosses gone altars gone anything that was an outward sign of worshiping christianity
[00:37:07] gone if you did that that was a sign you were counter-revolutionary and you were making yourself
[00:37:12] suspicious and you could be killed on top of that all of the statues all of the icons anything
[00:37:18] possibly related to christianity had to be destroyed because it was a sign you were working
[00:37:22] against the revolution now in paris this was done with gusto and the full support of the people
[00:37:28] now there were some people who were appalled but many of them were just they were on board with this
[00:37:32] but i told you the people in the countryside of france not so on board they saw this happening
[00:37:37] and they did not like it in fact they were already bothered by the fact that the king was
[00:37:41] getting killed maybe they didn't like the king maybe they didn't like the oppression
[00:37:44] but they really weren't on board with this whole rejecting god thing a short time later
[00:37:49] france continued to reject everything god and one of the ways they just to show you
[00:37:55] how anti god they were they replaced the calendar they said nah we don't like the calendar uh anymore
[00:38:02] they put new months in they changed the way they told when we do a week we do seven days
[00:38:06] they said that's christian we're going to make our weeks 10 days and the 10th day will be a
[00:38:10] day you celebrate and rest we don't want that christian day we've got new months they
[00:38:14] replace the names of the months they also replace you know how we have zero you know that first year
[00:38:19] the day the lord the year of the lord uh that our entire calendar is built you know bc before christ
[00:38:25] ac anno domini i think it is uh but well you know it's the latin anyway that not no the new zero
[00:38:34] is the beginning of the french revolution and every year afterwards it's since the french
[00:38:37] revolution they're completely rewriting everything and it's also like they're very obsessed with
[00:38:43] with tens and dividing things by tens we'll get into that a little bit more um in it when they when
[00:38:48] we start a cult of tens that we're going to talk about uh but this is when the metric system is
[00:38:52] created so if you use the metric system you're using a cult strictly obsession with ten um that was
[00:38:59] created by the french revolution to overthrow god so i'm just saying my european listeners my
[00:39:04] australian listeners guys come on let's not do that okay no i'm just kidding but uh no that's
[00:39:08] this is when they created the metric system this whole division by 10 thing well they put
[00:39:11] it into their calendar too because they're trying to get rid of anything that reminds them of god uh
[00:39:16] they there is no sunday it's the tenth day you rest now on top of that uh a lot of their stuff was
[00:39:22] working 50 percent of the priests of france signed their pledges they rejected the old ways
[00:39:28] they became servants of the revolution and they were called the abjuring pastors and they had
[00:39:32] to now do whatever the french state wanted when we talk about what's about to happen
[00:39:36] many of these people running these things are going to be these priests that sign pledges
[00:39:41] but if 50 percent of them did it that means 50 percent of them did not do it they were called
[00:39:46] the refractory and if you found them you would kill them if you could if anyone if you housed them
[00:39:51] this guy used to live at the parish he asked her i'll go on the lamb a faithful parishioner
[00:39:55] brings them in to give him some food now you can be killed because you helped these guys
[00:39:59] who aren't going to sign the pledge and they begin to do these anti-priest lea parades the
[00:40:05] archbishop of paris who signed the pledge was forced to replace his priestly garb with like a new garb
[00:40:12] of france's liberty they gave him a new cap you know the bishops wear the kind of funny looking
[00:40:16] hats well they give him a new cap a cap of liberty they said and he was forced to lead
[00:40:20] a procession of anti-church paraders through the streets to cleanse the streets and in the
[00:40:26] re to re establish this new anti-religious atmosphere all the street names that once had religious
[00:40:32] connotations you know maybe jone of ark avenue or you know augustine boulevard whatever gone replaced
[00:40:37] them with someone else all the cities that had religious names like if it was a city named after
[00:40:42] a religious gone replace it with something else they are undoing anything that can possibly
[00:40:47] be related to christianity and god they are not going to go down that direction anymore
[00:40:53] they couldn't stand anything religious or christian they pushed it all through and they began
[00:40:57] to adopt what would be called the cult of reason this was their first attempt at replacing christianity
[00:41:04] they wanted a non-religious deistic it was really atheist new religion to replace christianity you
[00:41:10] were forced to pledge allegiance to reason the idea of reason itself and it's very strange like
[00:41:18] how do you do that i will worship reason reasons not an entity it's nothing i pledge allegiance
[00:41:24] to reason but how do you even do that and yet that's what they forced people to do and they would
[00:41:30] now not always reason some of the churches that quote unquote churches that that were coming
[00:41:34] would worship liberty or nature or victory and you could you could worship all four of those
[00:41:38] ideas or more but you also had every reason and it was atheistic i mean this is clearly there
[00:41:43] is no god they replaced the holidays in the country that the people resisted look we we've
[00:41:48] always had these how we like christmas what are you doing and the priests of the old
[00:41:52] order the ones that signed the pledges now came in to do these new religious services
[00:41:56] where they you know had once given communion they were now giving services to reason to
[00:42:03] victory to nature and in some of the country towns the people wouldn't have it they forced
[00:42:08] them they were like we're going to kill you if you don't give us communion like we need communion
[00:42:12] what are you doing and that's that's just something i find kind of i don't want to say
[00:42:16] funny but like it is kind of funny right like if you don't give us communion we'll kill you
[00:42:20] get rid of your that reason that reason stuff right now as funny in retrospect i should say i'm
[00:42:26] sure at the time it was not i sixteen at least sixteen churches uh that were big famous churches
[00:42:31] of paris were not closed down but they were replaced and turned into temples of reason
[00:42:37] here they would throw festivals of reason and again it's all of this is worshiping this idea
[00:42:42] this vague concept of reason the biggest of these was of in november of 1793 they had it at the
[00:42:49] famous church site notadom uh famous for the hunchback of notadom notes games obviously a big
[00:42:55] famous site in france and they tore the altar down that was sitting in that church and they
[00:43:01] inscribed on this broken altar to philosophy they then built this kind of hill paper machine
[00:43:09] mountain with flowers on it i don't it's very unclear what they built it seems to be some kind
[00:43:15] of high place if i'm honest based on my understanding of the old testament inside the middle of it
[00:43:20] they decorated with flowers they put like roman greek pillars around it and they had these women
[00:43:26] and you'd come in and there were these in this festival and there were these women dressed in
[00:43:30] like roman uh looking garbs of all white and they would be kind of moving swaying dancing
[00:43:38] back and forth and in the middle was this woman who was dressed as the goddess this is a quote
[00:43:44] the goddess of liberty impersonating reason itself what does that mean i don't know you can look
[00:43:52] up pictures of it's a very strange site and these people would come in and there was an all a fire
[00:43:58] on the broken altar the new altar with two philosophy written on it and the fire was symbolic of truth
[00:44:04] and to avoid because they didn't want to get hey are you guys just pagans no we're not pagans
[00:44:09] just because we're dressing up as romans because we're not using statues they said look statue
[00:44:13] you worship statues if you're pagan these are real women dancing and a woman that we're worshiping
[00:44:18] we know she's she's standing in for the person of goddess of reason or liberty of liberty reason
[00:44:24] so it's not it's not paganism okay it doesn't count it's not a statue that's
[00:44:27] how they kind of got around it however there's more to it than just that too guys there's
[00:44:32] a very sexual component because these women were dressed provocatively and the goddess of liberty
[00:44:40] of reason herself people in the crowd said who that she is
[00:44:44] dressed for god provocatively and dancing inappropriately but the people also were like this is great we
[00:44:50] love it this is so much fun church has never been more fun but then other people are going
[00:44:54] this is lurid this is gross this is a lewd is this really what france is becoming now is
[00:44:59] this what we're gonna do and i mean it's easy at this point to start the glaze over and go
[00:45:04] okay france is weird imagine your churches imagine your home imagine they take over your church your
[00:45:13] pastors on the run or maybe even unprison and you show up at church and they're throwing a festival
[00:45:19] of reason and they've built this giant mountain and they have women dancing all over it provocatively
[00:45:25] imagine how that would make you feel and imagine how disturbing that would be as the crowd cheers
[00:45:30] and celebrates it and you would be going oh what's wrong with everybody are we okay with this why
[00:45:36] this is horrible and that's what's going on in france at this time and and i look at that and
[00:45:43] i go wow that's i mean it's it would have been really horrible if you were a faithful person
[00:45:48] watching all of this go down and while they threw this giant celebration and they had several
[00:45:53] of them but this was the biggest one was a Notre Dame uh the people of the revolution
[00:45:57] were destroying tons of lives according to the institute of world politics you could in others
[00:46:02] as well you could make an argument that the french revolution was causing basically a mini genocide
[00:46:07] a mini holocaust by killing its own people that disagreed with it and you're going oh is this
[00:46:12] like the gillet you know the guillotine stuff a rose pierre no actually uh even before that
[00:46:18] happened some of the people in the countryside began to rise up and about 20 percent of the
[00:46:24] population of a area called vendy the vendians will be killed by the french soldiers coming in
[00:46:31] and wiping them out about 170 000 of them will be killed this was a conservative group of people
[00:46:38] and this is not the only one where they basically said hey we're not on board with this whole
[00:46:43] paris thing we're not on board with this cult of reason stuff we're not on board with any of this
[00:46:48] and now france was conscripting their sons to go die in a war to protect france while france
[00:46:54] was going crazy and they said we don't want to do this we're gonna stand up to you france like this
[00:46:58] is out of control they were french but they didn't agree with it uh a quote one of them said at the
[00:47:03] time was they have killed our king chased away our priests sold the goods of our church they
[00:47:08] eat everything we have they want to take our bodies now no do not let them and so these
[00:47:14] people feel utterly betrayed they feel what france is doing is awful they've destroyed king they're
[00:47:20] taking away god they're taking away their church they're stealing their food wasn't that the whole
[00:47:24] point was that the french revolution would see food go to everyone well they can't even eat now
[00:47:29] well paris sent a general of soldiers and they were they would eventually be called the infernal
[00:47:33] troops and they just went around setting fire to the crops killing women and children and men
[00:47:39] that they found everyone they found was a traitor even people who were on their side
[00:47:42] would run up to them be like i'm loyal to paris i've been helping you out i've been giving information
[00:47:47] they said no kill him if you were really loyal to us you wouldn't still be here and they killed
[00:47:51] almost 200 000 people and many historians have said this should be claimed as one of the first
[00:47:56] true modern genocides because it was so systematic in what they did back to the temple of reason so
[00:48:03] keep in mind while paris is doing this weird provocative dancing stuff out in the countryside
[00:48:08] the people resisting are getting killed they're having their farms burnt down and they're
[00:48:12] being massacred and it really puts in perspective how dark what they're doing is back to the temples
[00:48:18] of reason they're continuing their strange greek inspired festivals building these mountains of dirt
[00:48:25] inside of them that they would put like they're literally building like high places from biblical
[00:48:29] times and they would cover it with greek and roman statues they were doing these sexual
[00:48:34] disturbing provocative dances and finally someone in france goes i've had enough of this you go okay
[00:48:40] good somebody's about to fix this right well the person decides to fix this is a man named robespierre
[00:48:47] if you've ever heard of him you know that he is famous in the french revolution for being the
[00:48:52] guy who uses the guillotine to kill a bunch of people and he's famous for a time period called
[00:48:57] the reign of terror not necessarily good that he's the guy who's going to deal with the
[00:49:02] situation he hated the cult of reason he said this is not good atheism is not good we are not
[00:49:07] going to become an atheist nation but he quoted he quoted voltair saying voltair one said if man
[00:49:14] had no god they'd have to invent one and he says see it's bad to have atheism and you're like okay
[00:49:18] yes he's right he goes so let's invent a new god that's basically what he does you know oh
[00:49:23] that's that's not what we want to do in robespierre thought man needs god to be moral we're people
[00:49:28] who need god but the cult of reason won't give us what we need so he created a new cult called
[00:49:34] the cult of the supreme being not god guys the supreme being it almost reminds me of like the
[00:49:42] atheist and they created the flying spaghetti monster or stupid stuff like that you're like okay
[00:49:46] that's that's dumb this is what the cult of the supreme being like i don't believe in god i believe
[00:49:50] in the supreme being okay believe in god and this religion you had to believe in god a god like
[00:49:56] creature and you had to believe humans had a mortal soul that could be judged you're like okay
[00:50:00] that's good that's closer to christianity uh and everything else was roman and greek oh no we didn't
[00:50:06] get there at all that was it you know and we're christians we believe you have to believe in
[00:50:10] jesus christ comes and dies for your sins you have to believe cod created the world we believe in
[00:50:13] the inerrant word of scripture we believe christ is coming back again right we believe all that
[00:50:16] none of that's accepted just believe in god believe in the supreme being believe the
[00:50:20] soul is immortal well then what do you what do you do how do you become a good person ah
[00:50:24] good question you become a good person by serving your nation and civic duties make the gods happy
[00:50:30] and if you do them you will be moral so serve france faithfully france needs you and you need to be
[00:50:36] civic minded that's the new religion and i hear that i go man that's lame but there are other
[00:50:42] you know cultic religions like that mormonism has a little bit of that going on too right
[00:50:47] roves pierre's moment uh he has a big moment guys he gets i mean he this gets big he creates
[00:50:53] an entire this like this moment when he creates the cult of the supreme being is the height of his
[00:50:59] power you hear if you look at the history books they i mean i i literally taught this subject
[00:51:03] they didn't mention any of this stuff and they were like when he killed a bunch of his enemies
[00:51:07] that was the height of his power no when he created the cult of supreme being that was the
[00:51:12] height of his power he chose what used to he chose the day that used to be the celebration
[00:51:17] of pentecostians like that's the kickstart of my new religion he wanted a big festival like
[00:51:22] the festival is a reason to really kick it off and similar to the festival of reason but it's
[00:51:26] now going to be outside not inside the old churches they're going to use those old churches still but
[00:51:30] the first festival needs to be outside and he even moved the guillotine he said the guillotine's
[00:51:36] been in the middle of paris but the sounds of people getting beheaded might distract us from
[00:51:40] the festival so he didn't stop beheading people they had too many people to be had to
[00:51:43] stop beheading people he just moved it outside of town so that wouldn't distract you from the
[00:51:47] festival he was about to show off right so he has a new religion he's got all these new ideas
[00:51:52] they're still going to kill people but it's over there and it starts on a beautiful day
[00:51:57] sunny day june 8th he he leans a large procession of people through the streets of paris all the
[00:52:03] girls have roses in their hair the men are carrying reefs are going to drop them off in the park
[00:52:08] everyone's joyous everyone's happy rose pierre is overjoyed he can't stop giving speeches
[00:52:14] on brotherhood freedom liberty victory and then they lead them all to this park in the middle of paris
[00:52:21] where there's a giant man made mountain even bigger than all their other ones
[00:52:25] and it's got flowers it's got stuff but on top of that mountain that they made in the middle of
[00:52:29] this park this big hill there's a giant tree the tree they call the tree of liberty right
[00:52:36] and everyone sees it next to it's a pillar with a statue of a woman lady liberty or something
[00:52:40] like that sir and this in the crowd is loving it rose pierre gets up he's wearing bright blue
[00:52:47] almost priestly looking garbs and he gives this big speech where he says atheism was wrong
[00:52:53] cult of reasons no good then he picks up a flame and he walks it over to a giant ugly
[00:52:59] cardboard statue he says this is atheism he throws the flame on the cardboard statue
[00:53:04] the statue begins to burn and melt and underneath is a beautiful statue of a woman and he goes
[00:53:10] that's wisdom the goddess of wisdom and the crowd's going wild they love it oh man this is
[00:53:17] such a show they love this stuff pair people paris love theater they love a show and they're loving
[00:53:22] it rose pierre is working the crowd however rose pierre does notice some of his other
[00:53:27] leaders are snickering on they're kind of like this is stupid he didn't hear this quote but one
[00:53:31] of them will be quoted what it's not enough that he's in charge of the nation now he's got
[00:53:34] to be god too right like they're not loving it and he takes note of that like he looks at them
[00:53:38] and he kind of like i see you i see that you're not enjoying this and i'm going to remember that
[00:53:44] half a million people are at this festival seeing all of this scene the mountain scene
[00:53:50] the tree of liberty seen all of this scene the speeches given by robespierre and the other people
[00:53:56] they sing revolution songs they chant viva la revolucion viva robespierre they are enjoying
[00:54:03] it it's all and then and then after the speeches after the fest after burning the statue right
[00:54:08] after they do all that they go and enjoy greek and roman style athletic competitions and cheer all
[00:54:14] day long watching an early version of the olympics i guess here of at least france competition because
[00:54:20] that's what the greeks and romans did they wrestled they they ran races and so that's what we're
[00:54:24] going to do too because we're gonna worship the supreme being and we're going to be athletic
[00:54:28] rose pierre everyone who saw rose pierre said i think this is the happiest day of his life
[00:54:32] we don't have rose pierre it's exact quote but i'm pretty sure it was based on every account
[00:54:36] he could not have been happier two days later rose pierre introduces a law to speed up the trials
[00:54:43] in executions you see we we have too many people in prison it's overcrowding we need to deal with
[00:54:48] the overcrowding prison problem we're going to start executing people a lot quicker your trials are
[00:54:52] basically not going to happen anymore we're going to do this really fast oh and also some of
[00:54:56] my leaders we think have been conspiring against me robespierre and so we're going to start
[00:55:00] big searching them he would threaten them all the time these leaders with i know that
[00:55:04] you're conspiring against me and i know who they are but i won't tell you because then you'll try to
[00:55:07] stop me and his leaders the other leaders were terrified of him they would get caught in the
[00:55:12] middle of night taken to jail and by the next morning they would already be getting guillotined
[00:55:16] it would happen so fast that leaders wouldn't sleep in their own beds they would hide in servant
[00:55:20] quarters beds and stuff just maybe the hope or other people's houses hoping that they came for him
[00:55:25] and to arrest them you wouldn't find him there because he was sleeping somewhere else that's how
[00:55:29] terrified they were within six weeks less than a month and a half after robespierre's big festival
[00:55:35] robespierre was arrested by the leaders trying to stop him from him executing them basically
[00:55:41] it was unclear how but at some point while they were arresting him
[00:55:44] robespierre injured his face from it seems a bullet some people believe he tried to shoot
[00:55:47] himself other people believe that while he was like resisting arrest he got shot the reason
[00:55:51] i say that because as they led him to the guillotine he had a big bandage on his face
[00:55:55] and at one point they will whip the bandage off and he will like scream out in pain because
[00:55:58] this is a big bandage now at this time the same people who saw him only a few weeks before declare
[00:56:05] this giant new cult the cult of the supreme being are now going to watch as he's led to the execution
[00:56:10] and famously there was a day where our calendar it was july 27th but remember they made up a new
[00:56:15] calendar it was called thermodouyan or something seven but anyway they tried he tried that he
[00:56:20] was supposed to give a defense and he tried to get up and give a speech now there's two versions
[00:56:24] of this and i'll be honest with you i can't tell which one's true the version you may have
[00:56:28] heard of was it started raining it stormed so bad that everyone inside no one heard his speech the
[00:56:32] crowd didn't support him and so there was no one there to end his execution he and even famously
[00:56:38] it said that he once believed the crowd would never let me be executed they loved me too much
[00:56:42] but the rain sent them home and he was executed another version it says no i don't know if
[00:56:47] there was a storm it was just that the mob was so loud no one could hear him either way
[00:56:51] he doesn't get his speech out there the people don't hear it whether it's a storm or the mob is too
[00:56:56] loud he's not able to defend himself so no one defends him in the next morning he is
[00:57:02] guillotined and he dies his head is cut off in front of the same crowd that only six weeks
[00:57:08] before he had proclaimed a new religion too after he dies the cult of supreme being
[00:57:14] kind of falls apart i mean when your founder gets executed for treason against everyone
[00:57:19] he's in against everyone do you really want to be seen as supporting that so everyone kind of backs
[00:57:24] up off that cult now his cult was intersecting with another cult in france at the time you're
[00:57:31] going how many cults are in france five we're gonna talk about at least five of them all right so
[00:57:35] this is number three weirdly the death of brit roves pierre was predicted specifically by a woman
[00:57:41] who was sitting in jail by roves pierre's own hand at this time her name kathryn fjult she
[00:57:46] had claimed she was a prophetess and she had a small cult following she said she would be the mother of
[00:57:51] god and give birth to a new messiah she was arrested but on her person when they arrested her was a
[00:57:56] prophecy she had written down saying roves pierre is the new john the baptist and he will be beheaded
[00:58:00] like john the baptist and when he was beheaded she was like i told you so now guessing that
[00:58:04] somebody was going to be beheaded in france is not exactly it's not exactly when in the lottery
[00:58:10] okay that was happening everywhere but she did correctly predict that the guy doing all the
[00:58:14] beheading was going to soon be beheaded like john the baptist in her mind now the theotists saw this
[00:58:19] and were like yeah see we proved it but they were actually causing problems for roves pierre's probably
[00:58:22] the reason he got arrested within a week of him declaring his new religion the theotists came
[00:58:26] up and supported him he liked them but it made him look a little crazy and this kind of began some
[00:58:30] of his troubles having these people support him um and it was one of the reasons the people who
[00:58:35] didn't like him used it like hey you have those crazy theotists following you around
[00:58:39] you know you're you're out of your mind kind of thing no i don't like them throw them in
[00:58:41] jail that's why they put them in jail like i'm not friends of their sea i put them in jail right
[00:58:45] the disciples of kathryn theo were eventually acquitted and they all got to leave however while
[00:58:50] in jail kathryn theo herself did die of just you know illness or whatever while in jail
[00:58:56] she did not give birth to a new messiah so that prophecy did not come true uh there you go
[00:59:01] now after the death of roves pierre things calmed down in france a little bit for a while and
[00:59:05] some of the antichristians attacks softened a little bit some of the churches were kind of able to return
[00:59:13] but they but not completely and many of the priests were still being arrested and killed
[00:59:17] but there was still a little bit of a return to things just a tad but a new cult was forming
[00:59:24] to take the place of the cult the supreme being and this was the deca dairy cult i think that's
[00:59:29] how you say it and this was based on deca if you're noticing deca decometer deca is 10
[00:59:35] and this was a cult of the 10 days it's literally just kind of like called the 10 day cult and it
[00:59:39] was basically hey on the 10th day we celebrate and throw a party and i gotta be honest with you
[00:59:47] i don't know what this cult stood for i spent a while trying to find anywhere anybody explained
[00:59:53] what this cult did it was around for years and nobody really knows it seemed like it in it
[00:59:59] incorporated some of those civic ideas that the other cults had but that's about all we know about
[01:00:04] it it was a cult and it had civic ideas and they was all about 10 in the 10th day and that's it
[01:00:11] so there's this other cult out there it's gonna merge with the with the final cult that
[01:00:15] we're talking about and then when i say cult i a cult makes you inspire like this idea of
[01:00:19] like a cult leader this is not a cult in that sense this is like religion basically they're calling
[01:00:24] them cults but they were they were the national each of these religions that we've talked about
[01:00:28] were in door at least two of them the cult of supreme being the cult of reason and the last
[01:00:32] one we talk about we're all endorsed by the french government as the official new religion all
[01:00:37] the holidays were swapped everything was said this is the new religion so when i say cult i
[01:00:41] don't mean like a man in a bunker i mean like the entire government of france says
[01:00:46] this is our new religion for a couple for a year or two at a time and around the year 1798
[01:00:51] french the french armies captured roam over in idli and at the time they imprisoned the pope
[01:00:58] and they began to attack and kill priests of roam caused a bunch of problems they renamed
[01:01:02] roam the roman republic and a french general general was running this territory and it only
[01:01:07] lasted about a year people of roam did not like this or care for this and the pope that was taken
[01:01:12] to france he was kind of put in prison then he was put in exile then he died trying to come back
[01:01:17] not a good thing this does not make the french or the italian people happy and the army i mean if
[01:01:21] you're a french catholic and you've been kind of hiding out that your government just killed the
[01:01:25] pope basically didn't kill him but you basically caused him to die not making you happy at all
[01:01:29] this army will be swept out of roam a year later by an austrian russian army alliance i
[01:01:35] didn't realize the russians ever got his south as italy however uh a year later napoleon
[01:01:40] will come back in in the year 1800 and re-establish dominance but unlike the old army
[01:01:46] he will not attack and destroy the church and all those problems he will curry favor with the
[01:01:50] catholic church there but it's just one more aspect the reason i brought this up it's not
[01:01:53] maybe directly related to what we're talking about but it's just another aspect where
[01:01:56] this french revolution was not only causing problems in france but it was causing problems
[01:02:02] for the religious worship of people in italy i mean they were the people of italy are like
[01:02:05] we have a pope you just stole our pope what's going on france like that's this thing is going
[01:02:09] everywhere if france had not been stopped or napoleon had not come in how much would they
[01:02:14] have been able to get away with how long would this have gone on i mean it was really changing
[01:02:19] the way things are done now after the cult of the duke at a r e which is i mean a cult of tens
[01:02:25] a new group comes in and kind of it kind of merges with the duke at a r e but takes over
[01:02:29] the duke at a r e this is called the theothelanthropy cult theothelanthropy theos you know
[01:02:36] right philanthropy now if you remember i mentioned a man at the very beginning of this called
[01:02:42] thomas pain and his terrible anti god work well thomas pain actually was one of the founders of
[01:02:48] this in 1794 he asked roves pierre and roves pierre kind of gave his blessing to start a new church
[01:02:54] with russoian ideas all combined to create this new church now now roves pierre was busy
[01:03:00] making the cult of supreme being but he gave pain and these guys permission to start their own
[01:03:05] new religion gave him a small church and once the cult of the supreme being fell apart this church
[01:03:11] began to really take on and one of the things that was interesting about this church was all
[01:03:16] the other ones were like we're doing something new this never been done before but the theo
[01:03:21] philanthropist said no no no no we're not doing something new we're doing something old
[01:03:26] we're going back christianity is the aberration christianity was the new ideas that messed it
[01:03:32] up we're going to go to the final religion which is actually the original religion each religion
[01:03:38] before this was like we're going to replace christianity and the theo philanthropist said no no no
[01:03:42] we're going to create the religion the final religion the last religion that the whole
[01:03:46] world will worship this religion and it's actually the original religion we've just been deviating
[01:03:52] from it this whole time and so here's a quote from them we do not propose to the people
[01:03:57] a new religion or a new worship our religion is the universal religion we can trace back our
[01:04:02] religion and worship to the first ages of the world now that's very effective if you tell people hey
[01:04:09] i'm not bringing you a new idea that no one's ever heard before i'm bringing you an old way of
[01:04:14] worshiping even older than christianity when you have all this chaos of france is going through
[01:04:19] new religion new religion new religion someone coming in and saying no no no
[01:04:22] we're going back to something firm and old it reached a lot of people in fact this was the one
[01:04:28] of those religions that france will enforce this is the one that actually began to win over
[01:04:32] the people a bit in 1794 they were only given that one church but by 1798 they had the the
[01:04:38] cult of the decadery is joining with them because this is going to clearly be a very
[01:04:43] powerful force in the land for religion and unlike the previous cults it was resonating with
[01:04:48] people and part of it was just the way they did it all instead of forcing people on it they actually
[01:04:54] made it seem appealing inside the religious system there were two committees that ruled over everything
[01:04:59] one was the committee of spirituality it dealt with religious questions the other one was the
[01:05:03] committee of temporal which would deal with things happening around you and they would try to
[01:05:08] help you if you needed help after all one of their civic duties was to help other people
[01:05:12] their beliefs were similar to the other cults god is real and souls are immortal and that here's
[01:05:18] their entire religious system here's their philosophy anything that benefits man is good and you are
[01:05:24] supposed to do that it's moral of you to do things that benefit mankind anything that harms people
[01:05:31] is bad and evil and you don't do that and if you're not sure what these things are
[01:05:35] speak to the committees and they will help arbitrate your problems they said every morning
[01:05:40] you wake up give a short allegiance to god a little prayer saying god i'm yours and that
[01:05:44] night when you go to bed examine your conscience and ask yourself did i do anything wrong did i do
[01:05:49] anything evil was i good was i as good as i should have been and then if you made some mistakes figure
[01:05:54] out how you can do better tomorrow you had an altar that they would have in their their places of
[01:05:59] worship but the altar was for laying flowers and food on little small sacrifices to beautify
[01:06:05] and say like hey i remember you god this was supposed to be a festival like a church like
[01:06:10] unlike the giant festivals of reason these giant mountain things this was supposed to be a small
[01:06:14] religion that you did at home that changed your life at home it was the opposite of the giant
[01:06:19] festivals of reasons it was supposed to be simple that anyone could do it you would come
[01:06:23] together on the 10th day or whatever day they came together and you would do uh you would sing
[01:06:29] songs and hymns but they weren't to god necessarily they were more like virtue hymns like bravery
[01:06:33] is good courage is great that kind of stuff they would have festival days but instead of
[01:06:38] festival days to saints or christmas they would do festivals to resew and socrates and other
[01:06:44] philosophers i'm sure voltair had one too they would give sermons you know you'd have a guy get
[01:06:48] up and give a speech but it was almost always just a political speech like he'd get up and go
[01:06:53] hey here's the politics of the day and here's why somebody's immoral and they would argue
[01:06:57] the moral ideas but in a lot of ways though it really did look like a church and it was a
[01:07:04] really effective replacement of the catholic church it was it was and some people actually said that one
[01:07:12] of the guys who helped invent it was himself came from a Calvinistic background a Puritan
[01:07:17] background of england and many people were basically saying this is almost like when
[01:07:22] historians look at it it's like in a lot of ways this looks like Puritanism on the outside at
[01:07:26] least the very simple plain clothes coming together what did i do bad what did i do good
[01:07:32] it's it's almost like what least the caricature of what Puritanism is we like read you know scarlet
[01:07:37] letter this is almost what this feels like on the outside now on the inside there's no jesus
[01:07:42] there's no christ there's no hymns to god you know it's very different but on the outside the simple
[01:07:48] life hard work that kind of thing they're seeing now the theoflanthropist one of the famous
[01:07:53] things they did was they gave a funeral right when george washington died they gave a funeral for
[01:07:58] him like hey we love george washington and we think he's great but secretly the the real funeral was
[01:08:04] actually like an oration praising napoleon like he's a strong up and comer and the world will remember
[01:08:10] him for his courage and ability to leave millets like everything they said about george washington
[01:08:15] you could easily have applied to napoleon and they were trying to earn favor with napoleon
[01:08:19] because it was very clear at this point napoleon's about to take over well it didn't work when
[01:08:25] napoleon takes over he begins to allow the french catholicism to come back he gets a concordat a thing
[01:08:33] written from the pope basically bringing catholicism back in and he puts an end to theoflanthropy
[01:08:39] he also puts an end to the cult of the decadury tens he also the people who are still worshiping
[01:08:44] the cult of the supreme being no you're not anymore oh if you're if you're still back
[01:08:48] in the original one the cult of reason no all of that is over no more of these cults he he's getting
[01:08:55] rid of all of that he's saying it didn't work france is unstable and we need to get back to something
[01:09:01] stable we're gonna bring the catholic church back in but it's going to be controlled you know much
[01:09:07] more controlled by france version they're not going to be able to do whatever they want like
[01:09:10] before we're going to bring the catholic church frant back in you're going okay okay you know
[01:09:14] so did things get better not really the damage had kind of already been done one of the things that
[01:09:22] they did the priest that signed the the pledges they forced them to marry and basically live without
[01:09:27] priests well when the polian comes back over and goes hey priest do you want to come back well
[01:09:31] they were disqualified six to nine thousand of them assigned the pledges had given up on god
[01:09:35] and then married they couldn't come preach it couldn't come back another 30 000 priests
[01:09:40] had been exiled they're gone and they're not coming back to france maybe some of them do
[01:09:44] but a lot of them are gone you don't even know where they are anymore and not to mention the
[01:09:48] hundreds they had executed thousands they had executed of nuns and priests so although napoleon
[01:09:54] said okay you know catholics you can come back out a lot of the catholics were gone
[01:10:00] there were nobody to run those churches maybe some of them came back but a lot and
[01:10:04] france is still uh somewhat catholic country to this day but not really because it was they
[01:10:11] the damage was done you couldn't really recover it you had slain persecuted and for you know 11
[01:10:17] and 12 years attacked everything catholic and regardless of whether or not you were bringing
[01:10:23] it back in that had an effect that was a powerful effect on the people people were scared to be
[01:10:29] associated with it you know i remember when i lived in cambodia um there was a kumai ruge
[01:10:34] happened you know 40 50 years ago and one of the things they did they went after anybody who
[01:10:38] was dressed smart or rich or wealthy and if you wore glasses they would kill you well when i lived
[01:10:44] in cambodia it was very rare for us to see people over the age of 40 wearing glasses and a lot of
[01:10:49] people would wear pajamas everywhere and i remember um we had a friend of ours from another asian
[01:10:55] country and they were like why did the cambodia's wear pajamas and we're like because i think i
[01:10:59] think it's just that culture of like look it wasn't good here if you dress fancy so a lot
[01:11:03] of people just learn to dress not fancy and that's kind of the same thing that happened in
[01:11:08] france like once you've had that much persecution of the major religion the people changed and i'm
[01:11:15] not saying that they didn't go back and forth on this but by easter is 1794 going back to the
[01:11:20] beginning every church in france almost had been sold dismantled had their priests gone
[01:11:27] and they had churches had been vandalized you don't just recover from that quickly
[01:11:32] and the people themselves had their face shaken if they believed in god
[01:11:36] where was god during all of this why hadn't god protected as people when the priest started to
[01:11:41] come back where well there wasn't the people weren't the same anymore they had been caught up in
[01:11:46] either waves of attacking the church or they watched as the church was attacked and no one
[01:11:52] had come to save them and let's not forget the church itself had not been perfect before this
[01:11:57] the catholic church in france had done a terrible job of things and many people thought maybe
[01:12:01] this is what they get so what do we make of this for today you listen to this whole episode and you
[01:12:05] go okay what is my takeaway what do i walk away from this well a few different thoughts for you that
[01:12:09] for me stand out for starters comparing the american revolution and french revolution
[01:12:14] very different i feel like this religious element for me really helps me to understand
[01:12:19] the french relate the french revolution and why i've never really found it interesting
[01:12:23] it's because we left out the most interesting part they struggled with their relationship with
[01:12:27] god and it made a difference and it just to me there's so many historical events world war one
[01:12:35] if you didn't know the woodrow wilson element where he tries to create this treaty of the
[01:12:39] covenant of the league of nations tries to bring world peace for god it's an important
[01:12:44] part of what was world war one wasn't it we don't know that it leads part of the story out
[01:12:49] so much of our history so many of our stories the second bloodiest event in human history
[01:12:54] the typing rebellion is this wild event caused by a guy who thought he was jesus's brother just
[01:12:59] so much of history is changed because people are interacting with god and the french revolution
[01:13:06] is not different when the people of the french revolution began to reject god
[01:13:10] they did all these crazy things and part of the reason it's so crazy is because they couldn't
[01:13:14] even figure out what religion they were going to be and that leads me to thought number two
[01:13:18] they tried atheism if anybody had a shot at making atheism work it was the french they hated
[01:13:25] the church they hated the christian god especially the elites but they couldn't make it work at all
[01:13:31] it just didn't come together they could not figure out what to worship so then they created
[01:13:35] these fake cults the cults of the supreme being all and just none of it took it wasn't
[01:13:40] doing what it was supposed to do because you can't not worship anything you have to have
[01:13:46] something that you worship you are designed by god to worship and if you don't worship god
[01:13:55] you will worship something and to all the atheists out there god you know if we just got rid of
[01:14:00] you know religion and god life would be better well the french revolution tried that and it was
[01:14:04] horrible and bloody and i'm not saying things are perfect before that but it was horrible and
[01:14:09] bloody when the atheists took over they did horrible things and they immediately threw themselves
[01:14:14] into all kind of wild weird sins and the people who tried to make it work ended up most of them
[01:14:20] executed for trying it didn't work thomas pain was wrong the age of reason didn't come
[01:14:25] it's been 200 years of quote unquote the age of reason and we have not seen the world improved
[01:14:30] dramatically by these ideas it doesn't work humans are created to worship something
[01:14:36] and whether it's the french revolution trying to replace god with the supreme being or
[01:14:42] the theanthro theo philanthropic whatever it is reason itself or you know the stories of north
[01:14:47] korea where they try to replace god and then they had to make themselves god because they had to
[01:14:51] people have to worship something you will either serve god or you will worship something else but
[01:14:57] you will not worship nothing and the french revolution story shows all the intellectuals
[01:15:02] all the brilliant smart people thought they could create something and make something great if only
[01:15:08] they could get rid of the church and instead they all these voltair russo genius people
[01:15:15] go into history for creating one of the bloodiest messes in human history in the french revolution
[01:15:20] because they were struggling and they were ultimately fighting against god and they were not successful
[01:15:30] i hope you enjoyed this episode of revive thoughts i hope you enjoyed this uh
[01:15:34] kind of not a deep dive but a look into the french revolution and really the side of the
[01:15:38] french revolution that i just not heard that much before i knew a little bit of this stuff
[01:15:42] but i really didn't know about all the cults and the mountains they were building and all of that
[01:15:46] i do suggest if you want to go on google images and look up the mountains themselves are really
[01:15:50] weird and just it is just odd that people did that and it really reminds you of old testament
[01:15:55] stuff right like salomon building the high places again it just is a very strange thing that
[01:15:59] they ran off to go do um i i i hope that you enjoyed some of this and got something from
[01:16:05] this i don't have like a direct application for us today like and this is why we shouldn't do i don't
[01:16:09] but it just is an interesting aspect yet another moment where history has been taught to us i think
[01:16:14] one way and when you look at the religious side you look at the church history side you look at
[01:16:18] the side where man is dealing with god you see a completely not a different story but a fuller
[01:16:23] fleshing out of what was really going on and it just shows you how so many of these historical
[01:16:29] events how so much of history is man interacting with either rejecting embracing or going against
[01:16:36] or false teaching but so much of what we understand and know is man and his relationship with god
[01:16:42] history is so much just that but oftentimes we get the secular sterilized version of that story
[01:16:48] and it just doesn't make sense so anyway this has been troi and this is revived thoughts and
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