Troy breaks down the Cult of Reason and The French Revolution. Many have heard of the French Revolution but often skip the spiritual aspects of this world-changing moment. It makes it very hard to understand what happened in France in those days.
Listen as Troy breaks down Robespierre's happiest day, the Cult of Reason where the French paraded a woman dressed as a goddess down the streets and bowed down to her, and the genocide against Christians in southern France.
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00:12 --> 00:15 [SPEAKER_00]: This is Troy, and you're listening to Revive Thoughts.
00:16 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_00]: This week, I and by myself, Joel is traveling, and he as it works as a mission's videographer.
00:22 --> 00:24 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't know that, he got the opportunity to record.
00:25 --> 00:27 [SPEAKER_00]: So missionaries and do some work with them.
00:27 --> 00:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That's wonderful and great.
00:28 --> 00:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And they got the travel to do that and took them a few weeks out.
00:31 --> 00:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So they was not able to be on the episode this week.
00:34 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_00]: However, that is okay, I had a subject I wanted to talk to everyone about anyway.
00:39 --> 00:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I get to do this the last time I got to do this, where I was just kind of me on the show.
00:42 --> 00:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of gave a story.
00:44 --> 00:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Stories that don't normally fit into the flow of the show.
00:47 --> 00:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I usually, as you know, revive thoughts.
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01:03 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And this topic I had today was originally going to be a deep dive, which is our very long ones where we do multiple hours on something and we talk about it a lot.
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01:25 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a typing rebellion episode that should honestly be coming out any day now.
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01:33 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you haven't listened, go check out the London Fire Episode, you may wonder why what I want to listen to something about a fire in London.
01:38 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_00]: But I promise you people who listen to it, we have several people who comment and go, man, how is this not a book?
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01:46 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Stories you've never heard before, typing rebellion and the Ethiopian history and just stuff.
01:51 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Or stories maybe you know a little bit about, like Joan of Arc, uh, the first Crusader, say the most trials, but told at a very deep level.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: So you really come out of it.
01:58 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I think
02:00 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And this episode really isn't any of those.
02:02 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: This is much more like our Woodrow Wilson part 1 and 2.
02:04 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The last time I was by myself.
02:06 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a story I wanted to tell.
02:08 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_00]: There was another one we did too.
02:09 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It was called a something like monster something.
02:12 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really good episode.
02:13 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a lot of people love that one too.
02:14 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I was preaching it off for the monsters or something like that.
02:17 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: From two years ago, and these are the stories that I can't really fit into the normal flow of revive thoughts with the sermons, but there's still things that I think we should talk about, and they're really, in my opinion, interesting parts of church history that don't get explored very often.
02:31 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't want to do a deep dive on this one, I'm actually glad this opportunity came out because it was on my list.
02:36 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It was going to be the next one we did after the typing rebellion was going to be the French Revolution.
02:41 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm honest,
02:43 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Even you probably hearing just the words from French Revolution, you just teleported back to high school history class and being bored probably, as someone's grown on and on and on and a bunch of French names went by and you just didn't understand it.
02:55 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I feel about it.
02:58 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've had to teach it and I understand the French Revolution, there's just something about teaching that subject that just doesn't interest a lot of us.
03:06 --> 03:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And you maybe you're a big French Revolution guy.
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You found this podcast from this.
03:10 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't wait to find more French Revolution talk.
03:12 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think most of us, when we hear the French Revolution, our eyes don't over, we glaze over and we, we are back in that history class that we didn't find very interesting.
03:20 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And I actually think this episode to me explained why without realizing that there's been a piece of the French Revolution that's been hidden from us.
03:30 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I discovered this recently, actually completely backs of it.
03:33 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_00]: When I discovered this, I went, oh my goodness.
03:36 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_00]: that is I think was missing or at least a big part of what's missing and our understanding of the French Revolution.
03:43 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If I can just do a very short summary, one minute.
03:49 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_00]: The French people were upset with their king.
03:51 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to overthrow them.
03:53 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They had been, you know,
03:57 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: and they overthrew their king.
03:59 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Some people say the king was really bad.
04:00 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Other people say actually this particular king wasn't that bad, but maybe the taste of the old king, Louis XIV, the sun king, was in their eyes and they overthrew the king.
04:09 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The mobs went crazy, soon they were killing everybody.
04:12 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Then they were killing rich people and then they started killing themselves.
04:15 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And then a guy named Robes Pierre took over and he started killing everybody, but then he died and then nobody was in charge.
04:21 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And a bunch of governments came and went and then by the end of it, Napoleon takes over and starts to work with everyone in Napoleon for me.
04:26 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of us is when the story gets interesting, you know, like this guy is a soldier rises to the rings on his own talents and leads the way.
04:33 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the half that's interesting.
04:35 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_00]: The first half is just so confusing.
04:37 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to be interested in my opinion by it, and yet.
04:43 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say after I worked on this episode today, I was like, this is the piece we've been missing.
04:47 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the story, the French Revolution hasn't been told to us yet, or at least was not told to me.
04:53 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I learn this, it made me much more interested in the French Revolution because it makes more sense.
04:58 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_00]: There's been an element missing, and that element, in my opinion, is the faith.
05:04 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_00]: where and why did a bunch of Christians in France?
05:10 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is about, you know, only 150 years after, yeah, the extras are 200 and something else.
05:15 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It's after the reformation, but this is supposed in France's Catholic, so let's make that clear.
05:19 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_00]: France's Catholic, if you listen to at least his episode on the Huguenots, which were French Protestants and martyrs and missionaries, the France was going after Protestants all over the world.
05:28 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_00]: France was not a part of the reformation, but France should have been somewhat Christian country
05:33 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened here that led to this madness and this mob and we're going to look at that and I think when we go through this story we will understand it.
05:42 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_00]: One way to look at this story is there I had heard this a long time ago there was this kind of beginning idea was there's this conversation that did happen we don't know exactly what was said, but there was a common conversation between three different people starts with Thomas Payne.
05:57 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas Payne is the author of Common Sense.
05:59 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_00]: He was one of the most influential people in the American Revolution.
06:02 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_00]: His pamphlets and words helped get America going.
06:05 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_00]: His encouragement during America's darkest days were a very pivotal part of the Revolution.
06:12 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And he, he would write, you know, we don't need, I can't remember the exact phrase him, but we don't need sunshine soldiers, but we need men who go through the winter.
06:19 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was out there encouraging the soldiers to keep fighting for what America was going to be during the American Revolution.
06:26 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And he gets into an argument.
06:28 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_00]: with George Washington, president of the United States.
06:32 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And basically says, why are we not sending soldiers in supporting the revolution in France?
06:38 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_00]: France had our back and helped us fight for liberty.
06:41 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is America not going to get her back into support her during her own revolution?
06:49 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas Jefferson was the other person in the room, and he was signing with George Washington, because he was his boss, but he knew he's the deck the sign of the declaration of independence.
06:58 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_00]: All that, he's the guy, he's all about liberty and justice for all.
07:02 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Why aren't we going to help out France?
07:04 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't we send their soldiers?
07:06 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But George Washington was firm with Thomas Payton.
07:09 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, it is not the same revolution.
07:13 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We will not get a part of it.
07:15 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And Thomas Payne kind of bitterly leaves, you know, yells and shouts out, I will not leave them alone.
07:19 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I will go to France and help them.
07:20 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe America would turn their back on this.
07:23 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's cry for freedom.
07:24 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, you got personal, a chore, she was basically, I can't believe you.
07:28 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Turn your back on them during this moment.
07:30 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_00]: and George Washington told him, you are free to go.
07:33 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a free country, right?
07:35 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But we will not save you.
07:36 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: If you get imprisoned or in trouble in France, America will not send soldiers, will not put pressure on France.
07:42 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You are going outside of our protection as an American citizen, and you take this risk on your own.
07:48 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And Thomas Payne left in a fury.
07:49 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He was mad.
07:50 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the last time he would ever be in the room, Avita Thomas Jefferson or George Washington.
07:56 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas Payne will arrive in France,
07:58 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He will fight for the revolution.
08:00 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_00]: At one point, he will be placed in jail, and he believes he's going to die in that jail, where he will scribble down the notes of paper of a book he's been working on on God during that time in prison.
08:12 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He writes it down fearful that he will be executed before his great book is,
08:17 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... written and it's a good reason that he did that he thought he would be because in seventeen ninety three the executioner went past every single door that was gonna be in that prison that he was in and put a mark on the door where the inhabitant was with they got that mark that meant they would be executed and pain got that mark on his door which meant that he should have died
08:37 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_00]: However, when they marked his door, he had visitors at the time, and so the way the guard had rubbed the mark on the door.
08:44 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I had been on like a slightly open door, and when the door was shut, later.
08:50 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_00]: When the visitors were gone, when they came to get everyone who was on a marked door, his door was shut, and it was that part of it that was shut that covered up the mark.
08:59 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_00]: If it had not been for the slightly open door, and this one, literally, a door a jar was some friends over.
09:05 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Had the guard been a slightly more careful, his door would have been marked, and he would have been taken out and executed.
09:11 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how close.
09:13 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas Payne got to being executed during the French Revolution.
09:17 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a slip-up of a guard marking doors with chunk and a door happening to be open that saved his life.
09:25 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So when he was in that moment when he's in jail thinking I'm gonna die he began writing a book that would eventually be called the age of reason and if you have not read this book
09:35 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: you have not missed out on much.
09:36 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It is one of the most anti-God screens you will ever read.
09:40 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I say this to somebody who has read it.
09:42 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say it was not an easy book to read.
09:47 --> 09:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I would not recommend reading it.
09:49 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say it's a book that if you're not firm in your faith, it will shake you up a bit.
09:53 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I was firm in my faith.
09:55 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And I am firm in my faith.
09:56 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I love Jesus Christ with all my heart and the Bible says in there and word, but it did challenge me and I read it and I was like these are tough questions I had to go through and I couldn't read a lot I had to go to commentaries and read other things I found actually a person who responded to the book when it was published and they would write letters back and forth and so I read his answers to Thomas Payne's questions I found they were very satisfactory but it was not a book that just I felt at the time when I read it ten years ago
10:22 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_00]: That I could answer all the questions that it brought up about the Bible on my own.
10:25 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It's in very anti-gog book and many have said it's one of the most damaging books that has ever been written to people's faith.
10:32 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It is just such a...
10:34 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_00]: attack and it just comes off like a, you know, today's world would be like an angry atheist Reddit page, but I mean, it is, it is an insane attack on the Bible that really challenge and broke a lot of people's face.
10:46 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he was scribbling down on pieces of paper in that jail cell.
10:49 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he realized, of course, he did eventually not get executed.
10:52 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_00]: He put it into a book.
10:53 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, paying wrote a letter to George Washington.
10:58 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_00]: While he was in France, basically, it wouldn't arrive on his birthday.
11:01 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So while France was suffering, he would let her get in it to George Washington's birthday, where he called him in a post-sate, he'd say, you gave up on freedom.
11:10 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You're a military commander, but you don't deserve praise, because you're deep down a coward.
11:15 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And this letter, he did not get a reply from it.
11:18 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So then he published it basically, showing to everyone, Thomas Payne was so angry.
11:21 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted everyone to hear Washington's alluser, a coward, and he didn't say that for France.
11:26 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But Washington never changed his mind.
11:29 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And he refused to respond to anything Payne did.
11:31 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_00]: He never changed his mind.
11:33 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: He was firm on this point.
11:34 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened in France?
11:35 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The revolution happening in France is not the same kind of revolution.
11:40 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
11:41 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_00]: What was so different about what happened in France?
11:46 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Why, and to be honest, I don't know that we really think about this, but what one of the biggest differences that really dawned on me was this faith aspect.
11:55 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I, when I started to learn what was going on in the religion of the people of France, I learned a bunch of stuff I'd never heard before.
12:02 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I went, this is what was different.
12:04 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_00]: This Washington was correct.
12:06 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't see any of this stuff we're about to talk about, happening in the American Revolution at all, not even close.
12:12 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: The American Revolution, the preachers in America, were preaching why they were not breaking God's law and Romans 13 and encouraging their people, no, there are people who disagree with that.
12:23 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_00]: But they were very firm.
12:24 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to be by the book, and here's the reasons we are sticking with the book, even though we're rebelling.
12:29 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_00]: In France, nothing like that is happening.
12:33 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be something we take a look at from this Christian perspective.
12:38 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the spiritual and religious aspects of this revolution that are not often talk about to understand that we have to go back to the early 1700s because it would be easy to say, wow, France just kind of loses her mind and does a bunch of weird stuff, but that's not fair to France.
12:56 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_00]: In the early 1700s, there was this idea of the absolute monarchies, these ideas that these kings could do whatever they wanted, and the quintessential guy who emblems that more than anybody is the guy who called himself the Sun King, King Louis 14th.
13:11 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you remember this history class, maybe the part where he glazed over, but it's sick with me, because we're going to get to the wild stuff here in a minute.
13:17 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_00]: King Louis XIV was in charge and he believed he had a divine right to rule.
13:20 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The King's basically were told, you were almost there, everyone has to submit to you.
13:24 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You're the King, God put you there to rule over.
13:27 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So anything you do is right because you're the governing authority.
13:30 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Now they should have said.
13:32 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_00]: The two have to submit to God's laws, and to the degree they did, like they didn't just murder everybody they saw or something like that, but at the same time, whatever they did was right because they were ordained by God, so they had to be listened to and King Louis XIV really was that.
13:49 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now part of it was because when he was young,
13:51 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_00]: The nobles came up to him while he was still a kid basically, and they threatened him and basically said we will kill you.
13:57 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And this terrified and broke him.
13:59 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He never forgot about it.
14:00 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he got older, he made the nobles pay.
14:03 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He built the valus, the palace of Versailles, and he made basically the nobles live there and serve him every morning.
14:09 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You had to be at breakfast.
14:10 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You had to be waiting.
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_00]: You had to be around him.
14:12 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: If you were not in court for any reason, you were left out on the important happenings.
14:16 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you wouldn't get the next business deal that
14:20 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_00]: would be falling in favor because he weren't around the palace 24-7 and that's how he ran the show.
14:26 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He treated them.
14:26 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when he read how he treats them, it's almost like their pets.
14:29 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they got to do whatever he says.
14:31 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to run with him, walk with them.
14:32 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_00]: If he goes for a walk, they have to follow behind him.
14:34 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they are literally treated like dogs.
14:37 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And he never, again, now clearly never forgot how they treated him and how he would get back at them for it.
14:43 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the power of King Louis XIV.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the era.
14:47 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_00]: that these people are growing up in, and the church is enabling an a big part of why they have so much power.
14:56 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_00]: A man was born during this time, his name is Francois, Errol, Verrol, and I am super, super, super sorry to all our French listeners.
15:04 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I do not speak French, and I don't know if I got that name right at all.
15:07 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't maybe don't know that name anyway, because his pen name is much more famous, his name is Voltaire.
15:13 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He was born in the late 1600s, and he would live through this time of King Louis XIV and he saw this.
15:22 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_00]: King, who believed he was ordained by God to do whatever he wanted.
15:26 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He saw the power of the Catholic Church at this time in France and he hated the church and he hated everything about what he saw.
15:35 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And here's one of the problems with the French Revolution.
15:37 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of the reasons why we really struggle with understanding this.
15:41 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_00]: See, the American Revolution, at least if you're American, right, America's good, Britain's bad.
15:45 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure if you're a British, let's hear it going.
15:46 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we'll hold up their colonial.
15:48 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
15:48 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But the point is,
15:50 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: there's at least kind of you know a lot of world war two hitler bad america good right like we get we got some Britain good uh... you know rush of that i don't know you can have some good guys bad guy stuff going on here i know rush of it if you're about to write it and go rush out was on the ally side uh... remember that in the beginning rush out was not on the ally side so actually there you go however
16:12 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, the way Russia was on the island, I said, no, it's not a World War II podcast.
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to stick with what we're doing here, okay?
16:17 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not good enough on that one, sorry.
16:18 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_00]: However, during the time, the problem is the good guys, the people that the revolution is happening against aren't really good guys at all.
16:27 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of have to side with the peasants a little bit.
16:30 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The Catholic Church running France at that time was doing an atrocious job.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_00]: The priests were not taxable.
16:37 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They made absolutely tons of money.
16:39 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They were a part of us, I think, called the second estate that's first to say the third estate.
16:43 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But basically, they were rich powerful people that nobody could touch because the government protected them and they helped protect the government.
16:48 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And they made money while the peasants struggled deeply.
16:52 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: under all of this.
16:53 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And the peasants of France were struggling, especially if they're French and Indian War, they had to pay for an expensive war between France and Britain that they lost.
17:00 --> 17:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And so not only did they not win the war, but they had to pay for the price of that and that caused a lot of problems, whereas the peasants were struggling to afford food, yet the untacks priests were making tons of money.
17:11 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The bishops were living the high life.
17:13 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_00]: The elites of Paris were doing just fine.
17:16 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's a part of you where you look at all this,
17:20 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can see why you'd want a revolution.
17:21 --> 17:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
17:23 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The way things were going in France was terrible.
17:26 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of those situations where the church is going to receive irreparable harm from the French Revolution, but it was her own fault for getting involved in politics and for getting her first duty to share Christ.
17:39 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_00]: and to take care of the poor, and do those things that God called us to do in the Bible, the church had long left that duty, and now you're seeing in some ways the commutants come, but it's at the expense and harm of everyone else.
17:51 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just a bad situation.
17:53 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And you wish you could go back in time and just get all of these for inch Christians to stop persecuting your units for starters.
17:59 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: But then to live like Christians, help the poor, and take care of people.
18:03 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's important to note, some of them were, there were always some people who were doing those things.
18:08 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just some majority of them didn't seem to be.
18:10 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Voltaire, this guy growing up at this time, he is an important person because he really, I won't say he's the only atheist, and he would say he's not an atheist, but he's basically your YouTube channel and you're atheist in a sense.
18:23 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_00]: He's much smarter than that, but he is, right?
18:25 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's not the only one, but he's very clever in his attacks.
18:30 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_00]: For example, the church would censor what you could write, so he could not write direct attacks because the church couldn't say the church is stealing all their money.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But he found a way around that.
18:39 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So instead, he would say, did you hear what so-and-so said?
18:42 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying the church is stealing all our money, and they're building all these things, and they're enjoying this, and they're making money off of us, and they just harm us, and he would write this long thing about what so-and-so said.
18:52 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be all his true beliefs, and then he would end it with, but thank goodness we know France would never do that, or something like that.
18:57 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little pithy quote at the end to say, oh, but this, you know that it's worthless.
19:01 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_00]: You know he's just saying that, but through that, France can't censor him because technically it's not his beliefs and he rebuts it at the end, right?
19:09 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And so he came up with these clever things he could do to get away with attacking him.
19:13 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And that actually made him more popular because his sarcasm was so clever.
19:17 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He was funny guy and people were like, yeah, that's such a good, he was a resistance guy.
19:22 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And people really liked it.
19:24 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And again,
19:25 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I love Jesus Christ, but if I lived as a peasant in France, and I saw the church that was being represented to me.
19:34 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And this guy was attacking them.
19:36 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be tempted, of course, I probably couldn't read it, but I would be tempted to go with him, right?
19:41 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Because the church I'm seeing is not the bride of Christ, so she's supposed to be.
19:45 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And someone out there is pointing that out.
19:48 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was very persuasive to a lot of people.
19:50 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, if Christ's people had been doing what they were supposed to do, none of this would have happened.
19:56 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the arguments against God and the Bible that we hear today were actually popularized by Voltaire.
20:02 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me hear if you've ever heard of this one, Jesus was never really God.
20:06 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He was just a good man and later on they made him God.
20:08 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a quote from him.
20:09 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Christian spent three whole centuries in constructing little by little the apotheosis that is the raising to the status of God of Jesus.
20:16 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_00]: At first, Jesus was a guard of his merely a man.
20:18 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_00]: He was inspired, maybe, by God.
20:19 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_00]: But then he was a creature better than others.
20:21 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, after that, he was given a place about the angels at St.
20:24 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Paul says.
20:25 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And of every day, they added more and more until he became an Ammonish and an emanation of God.
20:29 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Manifested in time, but still that was not enough.
20:31 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He had to be, he was held to be born before time, and finally, he was God, coast of substantial with God.
20:39 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_00]: He ever heard that argument before, it's a classic atheist argument, right, that Jesus wasn't really God.
20:44 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: We made him in the God later.
20:45 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_00]: There are many of those arguments.
20:47 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And that full terror was also very clever.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He basically would put out there, like we don't want.
20:53 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with so much of the teaching of the Bible, it's just the supernatural stuff that's in the way, you know?
20:58 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And that happens today too, all people will tell people about Jesus' teachings, right?
21:02 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But don't tell them about the feeding the 5, that just gets in the way of belief.
21:06 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_00]: We hear that from people still today, and a lot of those early attacks, a lot of that stuff that higher criticism would almost develop completely from this line of thinking started with Voltaire.
21:18 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And now Voltaire was also, he would attack atheists.
21:21 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, he was now, he always said he wasn't atheist.
21:24 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I personally, not so sure.
21:25 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he attacked atheist just to kind of defend himself.
21:28 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But he said he was never an atheist.
21:29 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He said atheists are just dumb.
21:31 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_00]: There has to be a God.
21:32 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think it's the Christian God.
21:34 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think Jesus Christ has that God.
21:36 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Voltaire believed that in his day, he was living in, quote, the twilight of Christianity, the ending day, seclosing son of Christianity.
21:44 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: In a lot of ways, steering Christianity's height in some ways at France.
21:47 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_00]: However, he was correct.
21:50 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And he also said every single man, every honorable man must hold the Christian religion and horror.
21:56 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Voltaire was not the only philosopher in this part of France who, or Europe, was doing this.
22:00 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Russo is over in Geneva writing very similar things at the same time.
22:04 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And there are other people that we will quote too, are very much against Christianity.
22:07 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But why really focus on Voltaire is because he became so popular.
22:13 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_00]: The Voltaire was more than just a writer.
22:15 --> 22:27 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he realized early on the publishers make most of his money when you write books, and he also worried he would be censored and he worried that if I'm censored and am poor, I'm going to change what I write to make more money and he didn't want to do that.
22:27 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_00]: At one point he has to flee.
22:29 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he insulted a man and they, this guy beat him up, Voltaire began taking fences, fencing classes to avenge his honor and challenge his guy to a duel, but the family of the man who threatened him found out, they ended up going to jail at one point and he flees the England's all very confusing.
22:44 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But he ends up in England, while he's there, he learns how to invest money and shifts for trade and he begins to make a ton of money doing that.
22:51 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Because a very successful businessman, you know, saying, hey, that ship goes to India to trade.
22:57 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_00]: stuff.
22:58 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not sure what you trade in, but whatever it is, you trade, I want to put some money down and when it comes back pay me for part of that money, right?
23:04 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And he made a lot of money doing that.
23:06 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And in England, he also saw England at the time at a free press.
23:08 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You could write whatever you wanted.
23:09 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He went, wow, this is amazing.
23:11 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Why doesn't France have this?
23:12 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go do everything I can to get France like this because it's messed up that France does not have this.
23:18 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_00]: over the years he also became friends with very wealthy men and if you're the wealthy guy and you like to sin and you live in this kind of quasi sort of Christian sort of not Christian world of France, you like to people like Voltaire and specifically two guys know is that peri brothers very wealthy became his friends and would help go in on businesses with them by his forties he was a millionaire and no one could tell him what the public she could write whatever he wanted because he didn't care the publishers made money he was fine
23:45 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_00]: and he would travel around Europe at eight literally the number of countries he would go to and become part of their court and then flee off to another country.
23:52 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It was several of them.
23:53 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, more than most people in their lifetime, he would run around Europe for decades getting into the court of Geneva, the court of Russia, the dissent and the other.
24:02 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually he ends up back in France.
24:05 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The whole time he's writing to France, he's writing articles, he's writing things, getting them published, becoming very popular for a guy who's not living there.
24:13 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He writes books like Candide and he wrote plays to he wrote several plays people loved his plays They thought there was so witty and smart because he knew just how to attack the system Just how to attack the Pope and the and the priest and France without getting in trouble So you could laugh you could have a good time and always just jokes just fun come on Voltaire's not that bad while he said while he was getting his message out It was very very good at that
24:40 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He spent three decades away from Paris.
24:42 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_00]: But after 30 years and 1778, he returned to Paris, and he was a rock star.
24:48 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a celebrity.
24:49 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: They loved him, they celebrated him.
24:51 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: People were selling Voltaire merchandise, like pictures of him on shirts kind of thing.
24:55 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they had maybe pictures of him.
24:57 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But they were selling merchandise of his, and it was quotes and stuff.
25:00 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They went crazy for him.
25:02 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And the church even came to him when he got there and said, Hey, if you'll just deny your anti god materials, we want to honor you.
25:07 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to make you like an honorary guy and give you some awards.
25:10 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_00]: We just can't with all your anti god stuff.
25:13 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: A little tear said now.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to do that.
25:16 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I I stand by everywhere.
25:17 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And I said, if you want to honor me, honor me, but I'm not changing the thing I said.
25:21 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_00]: When he died, he was added to the French pantheon, and it was somewhat, in some ways, seems like it was almost created for him, where they put him as one of the great figures of all Francis history.
25:31 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Napoleon III, not the Napoleon Bonaparte, you're thinking of that his grandson, or Grand Nephi, I think it is actually, had his heart removed and brought to me Ziem and Paris so that they could be had.
25:41 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And the guy who embalmed him actually took his brain out and kept it on his family thing, they had the brain of Voltaire for like 100 years,
25:48 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_00]: and then eventually the guy who that that family guy who had the brain of old tear traded it for seats at the opera and he got 20 years worth of seats for trading that brain in to a museum or something very strange.
25:59 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's old tear.
26:01 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I quote him is because one woman said at the time, he was the greatest celebrity of Europe.
26:07 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so much of his reputation, so much of his popularity was, I don't like the church.
26:12 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like God and I'm against this.
26:14 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that a man like that would be considered so popular, at least among the elites.
26:20 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us you where they're at, right?
26:22 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was showing a list of my students, the top billboard songs, and who were the seniors and stuff like this the other day.
26:28 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of my students made the point is that you know, you don't ever see Christian music at the top of those billboards.
26:33 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys have to know?
26:35 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He said that kind of tells you that the billboard people, the people listening to music are not very Christian.
26:42 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very true.
26:43 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: What you're listening to, what's popular, is somewhat, you know, because of reverse.
26:47 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_00]: If the top billboard 100 was amazing grace followed by, you know, as can it be and some of the others.
26:53 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_00]: If it was all songs we sing in church, right?
26:55 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, that would tell you something about those people, the fact that they're all almost anti-God songs.
27:01 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That tells you a different story, doesn't it?
27:03 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the situation, Voltaire's in.
27:05 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that a guy would be this popular, he'd be this famous, and he'd be this big, before the revolution happens, tells you where the heart and spiritual thoughts of,
27:15 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_00]: France, and a lot of ways you're up, but especially France was at that time.
27:20 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It really demonstrates where they feel.
27:22 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They are against the church, and they are against God.
27:25 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And what's about to happen in France, even though he dies in 778.
27:29 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: 11 years before the Revolution truly kicks off, but what's about to happen in France is this anti-God sentiment.
27:35 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason I think we struggle to really understand the French Revolution and carry about the French Revolution is because that part of it,
27:41 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_00]: has been obscured to us that this was a giant move against God and the church and when you don't have that peace it to me.
27:49 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I understood that peace I said this revolution makes way more sense.
27:51 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't random.
27:52 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just mobs.
27:53 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It was an anti god and anti church movement.
27:57 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that's not to say there weren't people who were fighting for God and fighting for the church in this movement.
28:02 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_00]: There were there were some people looking around going, look I'm not signing up on all that okay.
28:06 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I am still Catholic, but you will see that that is not the majority in this
28:11 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Voltaire was extremely popular.
28:13 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Another French philosopher did her out, was quote as saying, man will never be free into the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
28:23 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a lot of hate for God in the priest, right?
28:25 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The last king must be strangled with the intestines of the last priest.
28:29 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Another barren to hold back, hold back.
28:32 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: As I said, I'm not French.
28:34 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_00]: A religion has ever filled the mind of man with darkness and kept him at ignorance of the real duties of true interests, and is only by dispelling these clouds and phantoms of religion that we shall discover truth, reason and morality, religion diverts us from the cause of evil and from the remedies which nature prescribes, far from curing it aggravates, multiplies and perpetuates it.
28:54 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you have these kinds of people saying things like this, and then you have a resolution right afterwards, you gotta know this was a part of it, and this definitely was a big part of it.
29:03 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Now these are just some of the feelings we could keep going on and on, but I think you get the idea.
29:07 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_00]: This is there's a large
29:09 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_00]: movement here against God.
29:11 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm going to try to side swipe the confusing aspects of the French Revolution.
29:15 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's impossible to completely side swipe it.
29:17 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of England's glorious revolution.
29:19 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_00]: There's just certain, there's civil war they had.
29:22 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_00]: There's just certain things that happen.
29:25 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of go, okay, this is really confusing.
29:27 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on, especially.
29:28 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's because we live in an American, I don't live in America.
29:31 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm from American.
29:32 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We just don't have all these kings and queens and families and stuff.
29:35 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: To me, this doesn't quite really just add up and how you do things, but I get lost when you start naming these things with the French Revolution.
29:42 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a national convention.
29:43 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a tennis court assembly.
29:45 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_00]: There's all these different things happening and I'm going to skip most of that.
29:48 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not because that's not what we're here to do.
29:50 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We're looking at what's going on with the church and what's going on with the government.
29:54 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where we're going to really take our focus and be at.
29:57 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The first thing that they do in 1789, they begin overthowing the government.
30:01 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And in 1789, when the first things the new French government does is it immediately eliminates the tithing of the Catholic Church.
30:07 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I looked in multiple places and maybe I just couldn't find it.
30:11 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But I could not figure out, was the Catholic Church tithing like forcing you to pay 10% or were they just collecting tithing?
30:16 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Like everywhere I read, it was like they just collected a tithing.
30:18 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think,
30:20 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It was actually on some level forced by the power of government because the Catholic Church was very powerful.
30:25 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They owned 10% of the lands of France and they were collecting a tie on top of that.
30:31 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And you couldn't tax them.
30:32 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't do anything about it.
30:34 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_00]: That made them a very powerful, powerful force in the businesses and things the priest got involved in.
30:39 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't touch.
30:40 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they immediately began confiscating all of that land.
30:43 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: The tie was over and all of that land was now taken by the government and you could not interfere with them.
30:49 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And now they now one thing they did say that we as moderns might like was they said hey the church no longer has power censorship say what you want to say Everything is tolerated now.
30:58 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no they can't force you to have any religious beliefs and at most of us would say that seems good right we shouldn't Have that have a group of people controlling everyone's speech at the same time though They're confiscating all of the churches lands that have been maybe government protected up until that point, but all us all at once is gone
31:17 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, in 1790, they started to pass a much more strict set of rules to reign in their mind, reign in the Catholic Church.
31:26 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, even though there was a lot of Amtic Catholic sentiment, the average peasant still liked the Catholic Church.
31:31 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially like the elites in Paris had their view, but if you were living out in the middle of nowhere as a farmer, the Catholic Church was everything to you.
31:38 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And so when you see this revolution happening, you see these things happening in Paris, you're not happy about it.
31:43 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's actually going to be a big revolt that happens against some of this stuff because they're like, hey, we're not with you, Paris.
31:49 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing this on your own.
31:50 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just Paris, but the major cities, especially Paris.
31:53 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, at least on paper, the law of 1790 was just to control the Catholic Church's power, but it immediately was turned into a law that harmed the church.
32:02 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And what they basically said was, here's the things you can do.
32:05 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the things you can't do.
32:06 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and you have to pledge to sign your fealty, your loyalty to the French government.
32:13 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_00]: You're no longer working for the Catholic Church.
32:15 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We're starting like a new Catholic Church.
32:17 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_00]: You're still Catholic, but you're under our control now.
32:20 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the Catholic priests didn't want to sign that because they're like, hey, I answer to Rome.
32:26 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I answer to the pope.
32:26 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you were Protestant, you were going to use the answer to any of them.
32:28 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
32:29 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you on that.
32:30 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
32:30 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also with you.
32:31 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, they're going, hey, I don't want to answer the French government.
32:35 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I promise to serve Rome.
32:38 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's one of the quotes from it that this document.
32:40 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Before the ceremony of consecration begins, the bishop election will take us solemn oath in the presence of the officers of the people and other clergy to guard with care of the faithful of his diocese who are confided to him, to be loyal to the nation, the law, the king, and to support with all his power, the Constitution, to creed by the national assembly and accepted by the king.
32:59 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So you see, he must now be loyal to the nation.
33:02 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_00]: France comes first, and you can no longer serve God, even.
33:06 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Just as no God there, you're serving God, second to serving France.
33:11 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And many of the priests saw that and said, no, I'm not going to sign that.
33:16 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That's absolutely silly.
33:17 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't sign that I served France before God.
33:20 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't sign that I served France before the Pope.
33:22 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna sign, I served France before the church.
33:25 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I love France, maybe, but I'm not signing that.
33:28 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this immediately got you suspected.
33:30 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You were now immediately in trouble, and your salary just got revoked.
33:34 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_00]: France is not gonna pay for you if you won't sign this document, and you had to now come to court.
33:39 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And they suspected everybody who wasn't with them of being a trader.
33:43 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_00]: In 1792, the French government began to come up with new ways to kind of get, they want it on to the public, they will tell you, hey,
33:50 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_00]: the church needs to be reigned in.
33:52 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_00]: But in private, it was also worth fighting wars with a bunch of countries right now during the French Revolution, and France's churches are sitting on a lot of money.
33:59 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_00]: How can we get some of that money?
34:01 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_00]: They literally, one of them said, like, hey, they're sitting on 100 million levers.
34:05 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that is in French money back then, but it must have been a lot because they were like, how can we get some of that?
34:10 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_00]: All priests were now in this new law set up as you are automatically suspect of being a counter-revolutionary, a being against the revolution if you are a priest by virtue.
34:20 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't sign this pledge, we automatically suspect you of herdiness.
34:24 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: During the French Revolution, there was a counter-revolution where people tried to fight back.
34:28 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It was unsuccessful.
34:29 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_00]: But it did cause problems, and France wasn't the middle of wars with other countries.
34:33 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_00]: France didn't have time to deal with the counter-revolution, happening inside.
34:37 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And they saw the priest as a big part of that problem.
34:39 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And to be fair, I'm sure some of the priests were against what France was doing.
34:43 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're a part of that counter-revolutionary movement.
34:45 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, maybe to give some credit to the French Revolution, that was probably a fair assessment that some priests were doing that.
34:52 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_00]: In September of 1792, specifically a time period called the September massacres, priests were highlighted as groups to be killed, three high-ranking bishops were killed and from the crowd followed by 200 more priests were done.
35:06 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were not alone.
35:07 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_00]: These were just some of the members of the September massacres.
35:10 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_00]: In Lyons, they had priests executed by the hundreds by drowning, and Roka Fort, they were putting them in prison to suffer all over the place they were beginning to turn on and kill priests because they were singing as working for the other side, and they were also not just priests nuns as well or being drowned, for simply the act of being a nun, being a priest.
35:31 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_00]: If you won't agree to sign our pledge, you must be working for the enemies.
35:35 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_00]: This got even worse in 1793, the law of suspects were passed.
35:39 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, even if you sign the pledge, we still don't trust you until you prove your loyalty to us.
35:44 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a priest, you can be suspected and killed at any moment.
35:48 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't even really have to go to a trial.
35:49 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a suspect to you as a priest by just being a priest you must be a bad person.
35:55 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_00]: They also began to destroy all of the church bells across France.
35:59 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_00]: All of those big bells gone.
36:02 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Crosses gone.
36:03 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Allters gone.
36:04 --> 36:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that was an outward sign of worshiping Christianity gone.
36:08 --> 36:14 [SPEAKER_00]: If you did that, that was a sign you were a counter revolutionary and you were making yourself suspicious and you could be killed.
36:14 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, all of the statues, all of the icons, anything possibly related to Christianity, had to be destroyed, because it was a sign you were working against the revolution.
36:24 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Now in Paris, this was done with Gusto and the full support of the people.
36:28 --> 36:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Now there were some people who were appalled, but many of them were just, they were on board with this.
36:33 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But I told you, the people in the countries had a France,
36:35 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_00]: not so on board.
36:36 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They saw this happening and they did not like it.
36:39 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they were already bothered by the fact that the king was getting killed.
36:42 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they didn't like the king.
36:43 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they didn't like the oppression.
36:45 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But they really weren't on board with this whole rejecting god thing.
36:48 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_00]: A short time later, France continued to reject everything God and one of the ways they just
36:57 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_00]: They replaced the calendar.
36:59 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, nah, we don't like the calendar anymore.
37:02 --> 37:04 [SPEAKER_00]: They put new months in.
37:04 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They changed the way we do a week, we do seven days.
37:07 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, that's Christian.
37:08 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to make our weeks, 10 days.
37:10 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And the 10 day will be a day you celebrate and rest.
37:12 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want that Christian day.
37:13 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got new months.
37:14 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_00]: They replaced the names of the months.
37:16 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: They also replaced you know how we have zero, you know, that first year, the year or the Lord, that our entire calendar is built, you know, BC before Christ, AC, Anodomani, I think it is.
37:29 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_00]: But well, you know, it's the Latin of the, anyway, that not, no.
37:33 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The new zero is the beginning of the French Revolution.
37:36 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And every year afterwards, it's since the French Revolution.
37:38 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_00]: They're completely rewriting everything.
37:41 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's also, they, they're very obsessed with the, with tens and dividing things by tens.
37:45 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into that a little bit more, and when they, when we start a cult of tens, we're gonna talk about, but this is when the metric system is created.
37:53 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you use the metric system,
37:55 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_00]: You're using a cult, sickly of session with 10.
37:59 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That was created by the French Revolution to over their God.
38:02 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just saying, you're a P.N.
38:04 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_00]: listener.
38:04 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my Australian listeners.
38:05 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, come on, let's not do that.
38:07 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, no, let's give me.
38:08 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, this is when they created the metric system and this whole division by 10 thing.
38:11 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they put it into their calendar too, because they're trying to get rid of anything that reminds them of God.
38:17 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_00]: There is no Sunday.
38:18 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the 10th day you rest now.
38:20 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, a lot of their stuff was working, 50% of the priests of France signed their pledges.
38:27 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_00]: They rejected the old ways.
38:28 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They became servants of the revolution and they were called the abduring pastors.
38:32 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They had to now do whatever the French state wanted when we talk about what's about to happen.
38:37 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Many of these people running these things are going to be these priests that signed pledges.
38:41 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_00]: But if 50% of them did it,
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_00]: That means 50% of them did not do it.
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_00]: They were called a refractory.
38:47 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you found them, you would kill them if you could.
38:50 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_00]: If anyone, if you housed them, this guy used to live at the parish.
38:53 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He asked her, I'll go on the lamb.
38:54 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_00]: A faithful prisoner brings them in to give them some food.
38:56 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can be killed because you helped these guys who aren't going to sign the pledge.
39:01 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_00]: and they began to do these anti-priestly parades.
39:05 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The Archbishop of Paris, who signed the pledge, was forced to replace his priestly garb with like a new garb of France's liberty.
39:14 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_00]: They gave him a new cap, you know, the bishops were there kind of funny looking at us.
39:17 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they gave him a new cap, a cap of liberty, they said.
39:19 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was forced to lead a procession of anti-church-prater stew, the streets, to cleanse the streets and to establish this new anti-religious atmosphere.
39:30 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_00]: All the street names that once had religious connotations, you know, maybe Joan of Arc Avenue or, you know, Augustine Boulevard, whatever, gone, replaced him with someone else.
39:38 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: All the cities that had religious names, like if it was a city named after a religious gone, replaced it with something else, they are undoing anything that can possibly be related to Christianity and God, they are not going to go down that direction anymore.
39:53 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't stand anything religious or Christian.
39:55 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_00]: They pushed it all through and they began to adopt what would be called the cult of reason.
40:01 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_00]: This was their first attempt at replacing Christianity.
40:04 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted a non-religious deistic.
40:06 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really atheist, new religion to replace Christianity.
40:11 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You were forced to pledge allegiance to reason.
40:14 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The idea of reason itself.
40:17 --> 40:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very strange, like, how do you do that?
40:20 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I will worship reason, reason's not an entity.
40:23 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing.
40:24 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I pledge allegiance to reason, but how do you even do that?
40:27 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And yet, that's what they forced people to do.
40:29 --> 40:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And they would not now not always reason.
40:31 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the churches that quote unquote churches that were coming would worship liberty or nature or victory.
40:37 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And you could worship all four of those ideas or more.
40:40 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But you also had every season and it was atheistic.
40:43 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's clearly there is no God.
40:45 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_00]: They replaced the holidays in the country.
40:47 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But the people resist it.
40:48 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, we've always had these, how we like Christmas.
40:50 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
40:51 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And the price of the older ones that signed the pledges now came in to do these new religious services where they, you know, had once given communion, they were now giving services to reason, to victory, to nature.
41:05 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And in some of the country towns, the people wouldn't have it.
41:07 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They forced them.
41:08 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, we're going to kill you if you don't give us communion.
41:11 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we need communion.
41:12 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
41:13 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just something I find kind of...
41:16 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say funny, but like it is kind of funny, right?
41:19 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you don't give us communion, kill you, get rid of your that reason stuff, right?
41:23 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, as a funny in retrospect, I should say, I'm sure at the time it was not.
41:29 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_00]: At least 16 churches, that were big famous churches of Paris were not closed down, but they were placed and turned into temples of reason.
41:37 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Here they would throw festivals of reason.
41:40 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's all of this is worshiping this idea, this vague concept of reason.
41:45 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest of these was in November of 1793.
41:48 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: They had it at the famous church site, Notre Dame, famous for the hunchback of Notre Dame, no kidding.
41:54 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously a big famous site in France.
41:57 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And they tore the altar down that was sitting in that church.
42:01 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And they inscribed on this broken altar to philosophy.
42:08 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Hill, paper, machine, mountain with flowers on it.
42:11 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it's very unclear what they built.
42:14 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be some kind of high place, if I'm honest, based on my understanding of the Old Testament, inside the middle of it, they decorated it with flowers.
42:22 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They put like Roman Greek,
42:24 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Pillars around it and they had these women and you'd come in and they were these in this festival and they were these women dressed in like Roman Looking gars of all white and they would be kind of moving swaying Dancing back and forth and in the middle was this woman who was dressed as the goddess This is a quote the goddess of liberty impersonating reason itself
42:49 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?
42:50 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
42:52 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_00]: You can look up pictures of it.
42:54 --> 42:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very strange sight.
42:56 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And these people would come in.
42:57 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was an all a fire on the broken altar, the new altar with two philosophy written on it.
43:02 --> 43:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And the fire was symbolic of truth.
43:04 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And to avoid it, because they didn't want to get, hey, are you guys just pagans?
43:07 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
43:08 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not pagans just because we're dressing up as Romans because we're not using statues.
43:12 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, look, satch, you worship statues if you're a pagan.
43:15 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_00]: These are real women dancing and a woman that we're worshiping.
43:18 --> 43:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We know she's she's standing in for the person of goddess of reason or Liberty of Liberty of reason.
43:24 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not it's not paganism, okay?
43:26 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't count, it's not a statue.
43:27 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how they kind of got around it.
43:30 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_00]: However, there's more to it than just that, too, guys.
43:32 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a very sexual component because these women were dressed provocatively and the goddess of liberty, of reason or self people in the crowd said, whoa, that she is.
43:44 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Dressed for growth provocatively and dancing in appropriately, but the people also were like, this is great, we love it, this is so much fun, churches never been more fun, but then other people were going, this is lurid, this is gross, this is a lude, is this really what France is becoming now, is this what we're going to do?
44:00 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's easy at this point to start the glaze over and go, okay, France is weird, imagine your churches.
44:09 --> 44:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine your home.
44:11 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine they take over your church, your pastors on the run or maybe even unprison.
44:17 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And you show up at church and they're throwing a festival of reason.
44:20 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And they've built this giant mountain and they have women dancing all over it provocatively.
44:25 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine how that would make you feel.
44:27 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And imagine how disturbing that would be is the crowd cheers and celebrates it.
44:32 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And you would be going, oh, what's wrong with everybody?
44:35 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we okay with this?
44:36 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
44:36 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_00]: This is horrible.
44:38 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's going on in France at this time.
44:41 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And I look at that and I go, wow, that's, I mean, it would have been really horrible if you were a faithful person watching all of this go down.
44:50 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And while they threw this giant celebration, and they had several of them, but this was the biggest one was a Notre-Dame.
44:56 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_00]: The people, the revolution were destroying tons of lives.
44:59 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_00]: According to the Institute of World Politics, you could, and others as well, you could make an argument that the French Revolution was causing basically a many genocide, a many Holocaust by killing its own people that disagreed with it.
45:11 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're going, oh, is this like the
45:17 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Even before that happened, some of the people in the countryside began to rise up, and about 20% of the population of a area called Vendi, the Vendiians, will be killed by the French soldiers coming in and wiping them out, about 170 of them will be killed.
45:37 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_00]: This was a conservative group of people, and this was not the only one.
45:40 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_00]: where they basically said, hey, we're not on board with this whole Paris thing.
45:45 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not on board with this cult of reasons stuff.
45:47 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not on board with any of this.
45:48 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And now France was conscripting their sons to go die in a war, to protect France while France was going crazy.
45:56 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And they said, we don't want to do this.
45:57 --> 45:58 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to stand up to you, France.
45:58 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is out of control.
46:00 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They were French, but they didn't agree with it.
46:02 --> 46:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a quote, one of them said at the time was, they have killed our King, chased away our priests, sold the goods of our church, they eat everything we have, they want to take our bodies now, no, do not let them.
46:14 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And so these people feel utterly betrayed, they feel what Francis doing is awful, they've destroyed King, they're taking away God, they're taking away their church, they're stealing their food.
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't that the whole point?
46:25 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Was it the French Revolution would see food go to everyone, well, they can't even eat now.
46:29 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Paris sent a general assultures, and they would eventually be called the infernal troops, and they just went around setting fire to the crops, killing women and children and men that they found.
46:40 --> 46:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone they found was a traitor.
46:42 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Even people who were on their side would run up to them and be like, I'm loyal to Paris.
46:45 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been helping you out.
46:46 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been giving information.
46:47 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, no, kill him.
46:48 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_00]: If you were really loyal to us, you wouldn't still be here.
46:51 --> 46:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And they killed almost 200 people.
46:54 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And many historians have said, this should be claimed as
46:57 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_00]: true modern genocides because it was so systematic in what they did.
47:02 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Back to the timble of reasons, so keep in mind while Paris is doing this weird provocative dancing stuff out in the countryside, the people resisting are getting killed.
47:11 --> 47:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They're having their farms burnt down, and they're being massacred.
47:14 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And it really puts it in perspective how dark what they're doing is.
47:18 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Back to the temples of reason, they're continuing their strange Greek-inspired festivals, building these mountains of dirt inside of them that they would put, like, they're literally building like high places from biblical times, and they would cover it with Greek and Roman statues.
47:32 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They were doing these sexual, disturbing, provocative dances.
47:37 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And finally someone in France goes, I've had enough of this.
47:40 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_00]: You go, okay, good.
47:41 --> 47:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's about to fix this, right?
47:44 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the person who decides to fix this is a man named Robes Pierre.
47:48 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_00]: If you've ever heard of him, you know that he is famous in the French Revolution for being the guy who uses the guillotine to kill a bunch of people.
47:55 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And his famous for a time period called The Rain of Terror.
48:00 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily good that he's the guy who's going to deal with the situation.
48:03 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He hated the cold of reason.
48:05 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, this is not good, atheism is not good.
48:07 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_00]: We are not going to become an atheist nation.
48:10 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But he quoted, he quoted Voltaire saying Voltaire once said, if man had no God, they'd have to invent one.
48:16 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said, see it's bad to have atheism.
48:18 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, okay, he's right.
48:20 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He goes, so let's invent a new guy.
48:22 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's basically what he does.
48:23 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's not what we want to do.
48:25 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_00]: and wrote his favorite thought, man needs God to be more aware of people who need God.
48:29 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_00]: But the cults of reason won't give us what we need.
48:32 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So he created a new cult called the cult of the supreme being.
48:37 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Not God, guys.
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_00]: The supreme being.
48:41 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: It almost reminds me of the atheist and they created the flying spaghetti monster or stupid stuff like that.
48:46 --> 48:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, okay, that's dumb.
48:48 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what the cult of the supreme being.
48:49 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't believe in God.
48:50 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe in the supreme being.
48:52 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, believe in God.
48:54 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And this religion you had to believe in God, a God-like creature, and you had to believe humans had a mortal soul that could be judged.
49:00 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, okay, that's close to Christianity, and everything else was Roman and Greek.
49:05 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, we didn't get there at all.
49:07 --> 49:08 [SPEAKER_00]: That was it.
49:08 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, in more Christians, we believe you have to believe in Jesus Christ, it comes in nice for your sins, you have to believe God created the world, we believe in the inner or in the scripture, we believe Christ is coming back again.
49:16 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, we believe all that, none of that is accepted.
49:18 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Just believe in God, believe in the Supreme being, believe the soul is immortal.
49:22 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, then what do you, what do you do?
49:23 --> 49:24 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you become a good person?
49:24 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, good question.
49:26 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You become a good person by serving your nation.
49:28 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_00]: In civic duties, make the gods happy.
49:31 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you do them, you will be moral.
49:33 --> 49:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So serve France faithfully.
49:35 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: France needs you, and you need to be civic-minded.
49:38 --> 49:46 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the new religion and I hear that I go man, that's the name, but there are other, you know, cultic religions like that more men is a little bit of that going on too, right?
49:47 --> 49:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Roves Piero's moment, he has a big moment, guys.
49:50 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets, I mean, he, this gets big.
49:53 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He creates an entire, this, like this moment when he creates a cult of the supreme being is the height of his power.
49:59 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_00]: You hear, if you look at the history books, they, I mean, I literally taught this subject.
50:04 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't mention any of this stuff.
50:06 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, when he killed a bunch of his enemies, that was the height of his power.
50:09 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
50:09 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_00]: when he created the cult of supreme being.
50:12 --> 50:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the height of his power.
50:14 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He chose what used he chose the day that used to be the celebration of pentacossians, like that's the kickstart of my new religion.
50:20 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted a big festival, like the festival is a reason to really kick it off.
50:24 --> 50:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And similar to the festival of reason, but it's not going to be outside.
50:28 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Not inside the old churches are going to use those old churches still, but the first festival needs to be outside.
50:34 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And he even moved the guillotine.
50:36 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He said the guillotine's been the middle of Paris, but the sounds of people getting beheaded might distract us from the festival.
50:40 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So he didn't stop beheading people.
50:42 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_00]: They had too many people to behead to stop beheading people.
50:45 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_00]: He just moved it outside of town so that wouldn't distract you from the festival.
50:48 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He was about to show off, right?
50:50 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So he has a new religion, he's got all these new ideas, they're still going to kill people, but it's over there.
50:55 --> 50:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And it starts on a beautiful day, sunny day, June 8th.
50:59 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He leans a large procession of people through the streets of Paris.
51:03 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_00]: All the girls have roses in their hair.
51:05 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_00]: The men are carrying Reese are going to drop them off in the park.
51:09 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's joyous, everyone's happy.
51:11 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Robe's pair is overjoyed.
51:13 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He can't stop giving speeches on brotherhood, freedom, liberty,
51:17 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And then they leans them all to this park in the middle of Paris where there's a giant man made mountain, even bigger than all their other ones.
51:25 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's got flowers, it's got stuff, but on top of that mountain that they made in the middle of this park, this big hill, there's a giant tree, the tree they call the tree of liberty.
51:36 --> 51:41 [SPEAKER_00]: right and everyone sees it next to it's a pillar with a statue of a woman lady liberty or something like that sir.
51:42 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And this in the crowd is loving it.
51:45 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Roads Pierre gets up he's he's wearing bright blue almost pre-clean-looking garbs and he gives this big speech where he says atheism is wrong, cult of reasons, no good.
51:55 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he picks up a flame.
51:58 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And he walks it over to a giant ugly cardboard statue.
52:00 --> 52:02 [SPEAKER_00]: He says this is atheism.
52:02 --> 52:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He throws the flame on the cardboard statue.
52:05 --> 52:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The statue begins to burn and melt in underneath is a beautiful statue of a woman and he goes, that's wisdom, the goddess of wisdom.
52:13 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And the crowds going wild, they love it, oh man, this is such a show.
52:18 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_00]: They love this stuff, pair, people of Paris love theater, they love a show.
52:22 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're loving it, Rose Pier is working the crowd.
52:25 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_00]: However, Rose Pier does notice some of his other leaders are snickering on.
52:28 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of like stupid.
52:30 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't hear this quote, but one of them will be quoted what?
52:32 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not enough that he's in charge of the nation.
52:34 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's got to be God too, right?
52:36 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not loving it.
52:37 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And he takes note of the hat.
52:38 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he looks at them and he kind of like, I see you.
52:41 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I see that you're not enjoying this, and I'm going to remember that.
52:45 --> 52:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Half a million people are at this festival, seeing all of the scene, the mountain, seeing the tree of liberty, seeing all of the scene, the speeches given by robes pier and the other people.
52:56 --> 53:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They seeing revolution songs, they chant, Viva Le Revolucion, Viva Robes pier, they are enjoying it.
53:04 --> 53:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all, and then after the speeches, after the fest, after burning the statue, after
53:10 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Go and enjoy Greek and Roman style athletic competitions and cheer all day long watching an early version of the Olympics I guess here of at least France competition because the best with the Greeks and Romans did they wrestled they they ran races and so that's what we're going to do to because we're going to worship the Supreme being and we're going to be athletic Rose Pierre everyone is all rose Pierre said I think this is the happiest day of his life we don't have rose pairs exact quote, but I'm pretty sure it was based on every account he could not have been happier two days later
53:40 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Rose fair introduces a lot to speed up the trials and executions.
53:44 --> 53:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You see we we have too many people in prison is overcrowding.
53:47 --> 53:49 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to deal with the overcrowding prison problem.
53:50 --> 53:53 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to start executing people a lot quicker your trials are basically not going to happen anymore.
53:53 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do this really fast.
53:55 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and also, some of my leaders we think have been conspiring against me, Robespierre, and so we're going to start searching them.
54:01 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He would threaten them all the time.
54:03 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_00]: These leaders, with I know that you're conspiring against me, and I know who they are.
54:06 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But I won't tell you because then you'll try to stop me, and his leaders, the other leaders, were terrified of him.
54:12 --> 54:31 [SPEAKER_00]: they would get caught in the middle of the night taking the jail and by the next morning they would already be getting guillotined it would happen so fast that leaders wouldn't sleep in their own beds they would hide in servant quarters beds and stuff just maybe the hope or other people's houses hoping that they came for him and to arrest them you wouldn't find him there because it was sleeping somewhere else that's how terrified they were.
54:32 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Within six weeks, less than a month and a half after Roads here, his big festival, Roads Fierre was arrested by the leaders trying to stop him from him executing them basically.
54:41 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_00]: It was unclear how, but at some point while they were arresting him, Roads Fierre injured his face from it seems a bullet, some people believe he tried to shoot himself, other people believe that while he was like resisting a rescue got shot.
54:51 --> 55:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason I say that because as they led him to the guillotine, he had a big bandage on his face and at one point they will whip the bandage off and he will like scream out and pain because this is a big bandage.
55:00 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, at this time, the same people who saw him only a few weeks before declare this giant new cult, the cult of the Supreme Being, are now going to watch as he's led to the execution.
55:10 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And famously, there was a day where, uh, our calendar, it was July 27th, but remember, they made up a new calendar.
55:16 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It was called Thurma Doen or something seven.
55:18 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, they tried, he tried to, he was supposed to give a defense and he tried to get up and give a speech.
55:23 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Now there's two versions of this, and I'll be honest with you, I can't tell which one's true.
55:27 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_00]: The version you may have heard of was it started raining, it stormed so bad that everyone inside.
55:32 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_00]: No one heard his speech, the crowd didn't support him, and so there was no one there to end his execution.
55:38 --> 55:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Even famously, it said that he once believed the crowd would never let me be executed, they loved me too much, but the rain sent them home and he was executed.
55:45 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Another version, it says no, I don't know if there was a storm, it was just that the mob was so loud, no one could hear him.
55:53 --> 55:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get his speech out there.
55:55 --> 55:58 [SPEAKER_00]: The people don't hear it, whether it's a storm or the mob is too loud.
55:58 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not able to defend himself.
56:00 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So no one defends him in the next morning.
56:03 --> 56:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He is guillotined and he dies, his head is cut off.
56:07 --> 56:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And front of the same crowd, that only six weeks before, he had proclaimed a new religion too.
56:13 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_00]: After he dies, the cult of supreme being kind of falls apart.
56:16 --> 56:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when your founder gets executed for trees in against everyone, do you really want to be seen as supporting that?
56:23 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So everyone kind of backs up off that cult.
56:27 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, his cult was intersecting with another cult in France at the time.
56:31 --> 56:33 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to go in how many cults are in France?
56:33 --> 56:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Five.
56:33 --> 56:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about at least five of them.
56:35 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so this is number three.
56:38 --> 56:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Weirdly, the death of Brit Robe's pair was predicted, specifically by a woman who was sitting in jail, by Robe's pair's own hand at this time.
56:45 --> 56:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Her name, Katherine, the Alt.
56:47 --> 56:50 [SPEAKER_00]: She had claimed she was a prophetess, and she had a small, cold following.
56:50 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_00]: She said she would be the mother of God and give birth to a new Messiah.
56:53 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_00]: She was arrested, but on her person when they arrested her was a prophecy she had written down saying, Roe's fear is the new John the Baptist, and he will be beheaded like John the Baptist and when he was beheaded she was like, I told you so.
57:03 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, guessing that somebody was going to be beheaded in France as not exactly.
57:09 --> 57:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So I exactly went in the lottery, okay?
57:10 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That was happening everywhere, but she did correctly predict that the guy doing all the Beheading was gonna soon be beheaded like John the Baptist in her mind.
57:18 --> 57:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Now the Theotus saw this and were like, yeah, see we proved it But they were actually causing problems for Roe's peers.
57:23 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably the reason he got arrested within a week of him declaring his new religion The Theotus came up and supported him.
57:28 --> 57:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He liked them, but they made him look a little crazy and this kind of began some of his troubles having these people support him
57:34 --> 57:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it was one of the reasons the people who didn't like him used it like, hey, you're those crazy Theodas following you around, you know, you're you're out of your mind kind of they know I don't like them throw them in jail.
57:42 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_00]: That's way to put them in jail.
57:43 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not friends.
57:44 --> 57:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So they're see I put them in jail, right?
57:46 --> 57:50 [SPEAKER_00]: The disciples of Katherine Theote were eventually acquitted and they all got to leave.
57:50 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_00]: However, while in jail, Katherine Theote herself did die of just, you know, illness or whatever, while in jail, she did not get birth to an
58:00 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there you go.
58:02 --> 58:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, after the death of Rose Pier, things calm down and France a little bit for a while.
58:06 --> 58:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And some of the anti-Christians attacks soften a little bit.
58:10 --> 58:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the churches were kind of able to return, um, but they, but not completely.
58:15 --> 58:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And many of the priests were still being arrested and killed, but they were still a little bit of a return to things, just a tad.
58:22 --> 58:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But a new cult was forming to take the place of the cult of the Supreme Being, and this was the Decadary cult.
58:29 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's how you say it.
58:31 --> 58:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was based on Deca, if you're noticing Deca, Deca Commodore Deca is 10.
58:36 --> 58:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was a cult of the 10 days.
58:37 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally just kind of like called the 10 day cult.
58:40 --> 58:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was basically, hey, on the 10 day, we celebrate and throw a party.
58:45 --> 58:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And I gotta be honest with you.
58:47 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this cult stood for.
58:49 --> 58:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I spent a while trying to find anywhere, anybody explained what this cult did.
58:55 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It was around for years and nobody really knows.
58:58 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like it incorporated some of the civic ideas that the other cults had.
59:03 --> 59:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's about all we know about it.
59:04 --> 59:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a cult and it had civic ideas and it was all about 10 in the 10 day and that's it.
59:11 --> 59:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's this other quote out there, it's gonna merge with the final quote that we're talking about.
59:16 --> 59:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And then when I say cult, it makes you inspire like this idea of like a cult leader.
59:21 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not cult in that sense.
59:22 --> 59:25 [SPEAKER_00]: This is like religion, basically they're calling them cults.
59:25 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But they were the nation.
59:27 --> 59:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Each of these religions that we've talked about were indoor at least two of them.
59:31 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The cult is spring me in the cult of reason.
59:32 --> 59:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And the last one we talked about were all endorsed by the French government as the official new religion.
59:37 --> 59:39 [SPEAKER_00]: All the holidays were swapped.
59:39 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything was said this is the new religion so when I say cult I don't mean like a man and a bunker I mean like the entire government of France says this is our new religion for a couple for a year or two at a time
59:50 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And around the year 1798, French, the French army's captured Rome over in Italy, and at the time they imprisoned the Pope, and they began to attack and kill priests of Rome, caused a bunch of problems.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They renamed Rome, the Roman Republic, and a French general, General, was running this territory.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And only lasted about a year, the people of Rome did not like this or care for this, and the Pope that was taking the France, he was kind of put in prison, then he was put in exile, then he died, trying to come back.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:18 [SPEAKER_00]: not a good thing.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 [SPEAKER_00]: This does not make the French or the Italian people happy.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And the army, I mean, if you're a French Catholic and you've been kind of hiding out, that your government just killed the Pope, basically, and you didn't kill them, but you basically caused them to die, not making you happy at all.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_00]: This army will be sweet out of Rome a year later by an Austrian-Russian army alliance.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really as the Russians ever got as south as Italy.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_00]: However, a year later Napoleon will come back in in the year 1800 and re-establish dominance, but unlike the old army, he will not attack and destroy the church and all those problems, he will curry favor with the Catholic church there.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's just one more aspect.
01:00:52 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason I brought this up, it's not maybe directly related to what we're talking about, but it's just another aspect where this French revolution was not only causing problems in France,
01:01:01 --> 01:01:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was causing problems for the religious worship of people in Italy.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were the people of Italy are like, we have a pope.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You just stole our pope.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on, France?
01:01:08 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's this thing is going everywhere.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_00]: If France had not been stopped or Napoleon had not come in, how much would they have been able to get away with how long would this have gone on?
01:01:17 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was really,
01:01:18 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: changing the way things are done.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Now actually the cult of the Ducadere which is, I mean, a cult of 10s, a new group comes in and kind of kind of merges with the Ducadere, but takes over the Ducadere.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:37 [SPEAKER_00]: This was called the Theo, the Lanthropy cult, Theo, the Lanthropy, theo's, you know, the Lanthropy.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you remember, I mentioned a man at the very beginning of this called Thomas Pain and his terrible anti-god work.
01:01:45 --> 01:01:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Thomas Pain actually was one of the founders of this in 1794.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He asked Rose Pierre and Rose Pierre kind of gave his blessing to start a new church with Russoian ideas all combined to create this new church.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Rose Pierre was busy making the call of the supreme being.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: but he gave pain in these guys permission to start their own new religion, gave him a small church and once the cult of the supreme being fell apart, this church began to really take on.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that was interesting about this church was all the other ones were like, we're doing something new that's never been number four.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_00]: But the Theo philanthropists said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing something new.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing something old.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:27 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going back.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Christianity is the aberration.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Christianity was the new ideas that messed it up.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go to the final religion, which is actually the original religion.
01:02:38 --> 01:02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Each religion before this was like, we're going to replace Christianity.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Theo philanthropists have no, no, no, no, we're going to create the religion, the final religion, the last religion that the whole world will worship this religion.
01:02:48 --> 01:02:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's actually the original religion.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We've just been deviating from it this whole time.
01:02:55 --> 01:02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And so here's a quote from them.
01:02:56 --> 01:02:59 [SPEAKER_00]: We do not propose to the people a new religion or a new worship.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Our religion is the universal religion.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:06 [SPEAKER_00]: We can trace back our religion and worship to the first ages of the world.
01:03:07 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that's very effective.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_00]: If you tell people, hey, I'm not bringing you a new idea that no one's ever heard before, I'm bringing you an old way of worshiping even older than Christianity.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_00]: When you have all this chaos of France is going through new religion, new religion, new religion, someone coming in and saying, no, no, no.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going back to something firm and old.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It reached a lot of people.
01:03:26 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, this was the one of those religions that France will enforce.
01:03:30 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: This was the one that actually began to win over the people of it.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_00]: In 1794, they were only given that one church.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But by 1798, the cult of the Decidary is joining with them because this is going to clearly be a very powerful force in the land for religion.
01:03:46 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And unlike the previous cults, it was resonating with people.
01:03:50 --> 01:03:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And part of it was just the way they did it all.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of forcing people on it, they actually made it seem appealing.
01:03:56 --> 01:03:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Inside the religious system, there were two communities that ruled over everything.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: One was the committee of spirituality.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It dealt with religious questions.
01:04:03 --> 01:04:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The other one was the committee of temporal, which would deal with things happening around you, and they would try to help you if you needed help.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:12 [SPEAKER_00]: After all, one of their civic duties was to help other people.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Their beliefs were similar to the other cults, God is real and souls are immortal, and that here's their entire religious system, here's their philosophy.
01:04:22 --> 01:04:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that benefits man is good and you are supposed to do that.
01:04:26 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It's moral of view to do things that benefit mankind.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that harms people is bad and evil and you don't do that.
01:04:34 --> 01:04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not sure what these things are, speak to the committees and they will help arbitrate your problems.
01:04:39 --> 01:04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, every morning, you wake up, give us short allegiance to God, a little prayer saying, God, I'm yours.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, when you go to bed, examine your conscience and ask yourself, did I do anything wrong?
01:04:49 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Did I do anything evil?
01:04:50 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Was I good?
01:04:51 --> 01:04:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Was I as good as I should have been?
01:04:52 --> 01:04:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, if you made some mistakes, figure out how you can do better tomorrow.
01:04:57 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You had an altar that they would have in their places of worship, but the altar was for laying flowers and food on little small sacrifices to beautify and say, like, hey, I remember you got this was supposed to be a church like unlike the giant festivals of reason, these giant mountain things, this is supposed to be a small religion that you did at home that changed your life at home, it was the opposite of the giant festivals of reasons.
01:05:21 --> 01:05:23 [SPEAKER_00]: it was supposed to be simple that anyone could do it.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_00]: You would come together on the 10th day or whatever day they came together and you would do uh you would sing songs and hyms but they weren't to God necessarily they were more like virtue hyms like bravery is good courage is great that kind of stuff.
01:05:36 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_00]: They would have festival days, but instead of festival days too, Saints or Christmas, they would do festivals to Rousseau and Socrates and other philosophers.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure Voltaire had one too.
01:05:47 --> 01:05:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They would give sermons, you know, you'd have a guy get up and give a speech, but it was almost always just a political speech.
01:05:53 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he'd get up and go, hey, here's the politics of the day, and here's why somebody's a moral, and they would argue the moral ideas, and a lot of ways though it really did look like a church, and it was a really effective
01:06:06 --> 01:06:10 [SPEAKER_00]: replacement of the Catholic church.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, and some people actually said that one of the guys who helped invent it was himself came from a Calvinistic background, a Puritan background of England, and many people were basically saying this is almost like, the historians look at it, it's like a lot of ways, this looks like, you know, you know, you know, you know, you
01:06:25 --> 01:06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Puritanism on the outside at least the very simple plain clothes coming together.
01:06:30 --> 01:06:31 [SPEAKER_00]: What did I do bad?
01:06:31 --> 01:06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: What did I do good?
01:06:32 --> 01:06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like what at least the caricature of what Puritanism as we like read You know scarlet letter.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: This is almost what this feels like on the Outside now on the inside there's no Jesus.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no Christ.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:44 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no hymns to God.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's very different But on the outside the simple life hard work that kind of thing.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:51 [SPEAKER_00]: They're seeing
01:06:52 --> 01:06:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Theo Flanthropist, one of the famous things they did, was they gave a funeral right.
01:06:56 --> 01:06:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I went George Washington night, they gave a funeral for him.
01:06:58 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we love George Washington.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And we think he's great, but secretly the the real funeral was actually like an
01:07:07 --> 01:07:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a strong, up-and-commer in the world, will remember him for his courage and ability to leave military.
01:07:13 --> 01:07:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything they said about George Washington, you could easily have applied to Napoleon, and they were trying to earn favor with Napoleon, because it was very clear at this point.
01:07:21 --> 01:07:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Napoleon's about to take over.
01:07:23 --> 01:07:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it didn't work.
01:07:25 --> 01:07:31 [SPEAKER_00]: When Napoleon takes over, he begins to allow the French Catholicism to come back.
01:07:31 --> 01:07:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets a concordat thing written from the Pope basically bringing Catholicism back and he puts an end to Theofalympher pee.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:43 [SPEAKER_00]: He also puts an end to the cult of the Decaturary Tens.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He also, the people who are still were still being the cult of the Supreme Being, no, you're not anymore.
01:07:48 --> 01:07:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if you're still back in the original one, the cult of reason, no.
01:07:51 --> 01:07:52 [SPEAKER_00]: All of that is over.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:54 [SPEAKER_00]: No more of these cults.
01:07:55 --> 01:07:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He's getting rid of all of that.
01:07:57 --> 01:07:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He's saying, it didn't work.
01:07:59 --> 01:08:02 [SPEAKER_00]: France is unstable, and we need to get back to something stable.
01:08:03 --> 01:08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to bring the Catholic Church back in, but it's going to be controlled much more controlled by France version.
01:08:09 --> 01:08:11 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to be able to do whatever they want.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Like before, we're going to bring the Catholic Church back in.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not okay.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:08:15 --> 01:08:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so did things get better?
01:08:17 --> 01:08:18 [SPEAKER_00]: not really.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:21 [SPEAKER_00]: The damage had kind of already been done.
01:08:22 --> 01:08:28 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that they did, the priests that signed the pledges, they forced them to marry and basically live without priests.
01:08:28 --> 01:08:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, when Napoleon comes back over and goes, hey, priest, you want to come back?
01:08:31 --> 01:08:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they were disqualified.
01:08:32 --> 01:08:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Six to nine thousand of them assigned the pledges had given up on God, and then married.
01:08:36 --> 01:08:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't come breeches.
01:08:37 --> 01:08:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't come back.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Another 30 priests had been exiled, they're gone, and they're not coming back to France, maybe some of them do, but a lot of them are gone, they don't even know where they are anymore.
01:08:47 --> 01:08:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And not to mention the hundreds, they had executed thousands, they had executed of nuns and priests.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So although Napoleon says, okay, you know, Catholics, you can come back out, a lot of the Catholics were gone.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:17 [SPEAKER_00]: there were nobody to run those churches maybe some of them came back but a lot in France is still somewhat catholic country to the state but not really because it was the damage was done you couldn't really recover it you had slain persecuted and for you know 11 and 12 years attacked
01:09:20 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_00]: everything Catholic and regardless of whether or not you were bringing it back in the had an effect.
01:09:25 --> 01:09:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That was a powerful effect on the people.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:30 [SPEAKER_00]: People were scared to be associated with it.
01:09:30 --> 01:09:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I remember what I lived in Cambodia.
01:09:33 --> 01:09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a kum, the kumai Rouge happened, you know, 40, 50 years ago.
01:09:37 --> 01:09:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things they did is they went after anybody who was dressed smart or rich or wealthy.
01:09:42 --> 01:09:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you were glasses, they would kill you.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, when I lived in Cambodia, it was very rare for us to see people over the age of 40 wearing glasses.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people would wear pajamas everywhere.
01:09:52 --> 01:09:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember we had a friend of ours from another Asian country and they were like, why did the Cambodians wear pajamas?
01:09:57 --> 01:10:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're like, because I think it's just that culture of like, look, it wasn't good here if you dress fancy.
01:10:03 --> 01:10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people just learned to dress not fancy.
01:10:07 --> 01:10:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the same thing that happened in France.
01:10:10 --> 01:10:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, once you've had that much persecution
01:10:14 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The people changed, and I'm not saying that they didn't go back and forth on this, but by Easter of 1794 going back to the beginning, every church in France, almost had been sold, dismantled, had their priests gone, and they had churches had been vandalized.
01:10:30 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't just recover from that quickly, and the people themselves had their faith shaken.
01:10:34 --> 01:10:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They believed in God.
01:10:36 --> 01:10:38 [SPEAKER_00]: where it was God, dearing all of this.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Why hadn't God protected his people?
01:10:40 --> 01:10:45 [SPEAKER_00]: When the priest started to come back, well, there wasn't the people weren't the same anymore.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They had been caught up in either waves of attacking the church or they washed as the church was attacked and no one had come to save them.
01:10:53 --> 01:10:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And let's not forget, the church itself had not been perfect before this.
01:10:57 --> 01:11:02 [SPEAKER_00]: The Catholic Church in France had done a terrible job of things and many people thought maybe this is what they get.
01:11:03 --> 01:11:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So what do we make of this for today?
01:11:04 --> 01:11:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You listen to this whole episode and you go, okay, what is my takeaway?
01:11:07 --> 01:11:08 [SPEAKER_00]: What do I walk away from this?
01:11:08 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, a few different thoughts for you that for me stand out for starters, comparing the American Revolution and French Revolution, Mary different.
01:11:15 --> 01:11:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this religious element for me really helps me to understand
01:11:20 --> 01:11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The French Revolution and why I've never really found it interesting, because we left out the most interesting part, they struggled with their relationship with God and it made a difference and it just to mean that there's so many historical events.
01:11:35 --> 01:11:46 [SPEAKER_00]: World War I, if you didn't know the Woodrow Wilson element where he tries to create this treaty of the covenant of the League of Nations tries to bring world peace for God, it's an important part of what was World War I, wasn't it?
01:11:50 --> 01:11:51 [SPEAKER_00]: so much of our history.
01:11:51 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So many of our stories.
01:11:53 --> 01:12:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The second bloodiest of it in human history, the typing rebellion, is this wild event caused by a guy who thought he was Jesus's brother, just so much of history is changed because people are interacting with God.
01:12:05 --> 01:12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And the French Revolution is not different when the people of the French Revolution began to reject God.
01:12:11 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They did all these crazy things and part of the reason it's so crazy is because they couldn't
01:12:19 --> 01:12:20 [SPEAKER_00]: they tried atheism.
01:12:20 --> 01:12:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If anybody had a shot and making atheism work, it was the French, they hated the church.
01:12:26 --> 01:12:29 [SPEAKER_00]: They hated the Christian God, especially the elites.
01:12:30 --> 01:12:31 [SPEAKER_00]: But they couldn't make it work at all.
01:12:31 --> 01:12:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't come together.
01:12:33 --> 01:12:34 [SPEAKER_00]: They could not figure out what to worship.
01:12:35 --> 01:12:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So then they created these fake codes, the codes of the Supreme Being, and just none of it took.
01:12:39 --> 01:12:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't doing whatever supposed to do, because you can't not worship anything.
01:12:46 --> 01:12:49 [SPEAKER_00]: You have to have something that you worship.
01:12:49 --> 01:12:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You are designed by God to worship.
01:12:53 --> 01:12:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't worship God,
01:12:55 --> 01:13:03 [SPEAKER_00]: you will worship something, and to all the atheists out there, if we just got rid of religion and God, life would be better.
01:13:03 --> 01:13:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the French Revolution tried that, and it was horrible and bloody, and not saying things were perfect before that, but it was horrible and bloody when the atheists took over.
01:13:11 --> 01:13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: They did horrible things, and they immediately threw themselves into all kind of wild, weird sins, and to be able to try to make it work.
01:13:19 --> 01:13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: ended up most of them executed for a trying.
01:13:21 --> 01:13:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't work.
01:13:22 --> 01:13:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas Payne was wrong.
01:13:23 --> 01:13:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The age of reason didn't come.
01:13:25 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been 200 years of quote-unquote the age of reason, and we have not seen the world improved dramatically by these ideas.
01:13:33 --> 01:13:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't work.
01:13:34 --> 01:13:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Humans are created to worship something.
01:13:36 --> 01:13:59 [SPEAKER_00]: and whether it's the French Revolution trying to replace God with the supreme being or the Theo Philanthropy, whatever it is, reason itself or you know the stories of North Korea where they try to replace God and then they had to make themselves God because they had to people have to worship something, you will either serve God or you will worship something else but you will not worship nothing.
01:13:59 --> 01:14:09 [SPEAKER_00]: and the French Revolution's short story shows all the intellectuals, all the brilliant smart people thought they could create something and make something great if only they could get rid of the church.
01:14:10 --> 01:14:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And instead, they all these Voltaire Rousseau genius people go into history for creating one of the bloodiest messes in human history in the French Revolution because they were struggling and they were ultimately fighting against God and they were not successful.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you enjoyed this episode of Levi thoughts.
01:14:32 --> 01:14:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you enjoyed this kind of not a deep dive, but look into the French Revolution and really the side of the French Revolution.
01:14:39 --> 01:14:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I had just not heard that much before.
01:14:41 --> 01:14:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew a little bit of this stuff, but I really didn't know about all the cults and the mountains they were building and all of that.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I do suggest if you want to go on Google images and look up the mountains themselves are really weird and just,
01:14:52 --> 01:14:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It is just odd that people did that and it really reminds you of Old Testament stuff, right?
01:14:56 --> 01:14:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Solomon build in the high places again.
01:14:58 --> 01:15:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It just is a very strange thing that they ran off to go do.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you enjoyed some of this and got something from this.
01:15:05 --> 01:15:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have like a direct application for us today.
01:15:08 --> 01:15:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and this is why we shouldn't, I don't.
01:15:10 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But it just is an interesting aspect, yet another moment where history has been taught to us, I think, one way.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you look at the religious side, you look at the church history side.
01:15:18 --> 01:15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You look at the side where man is dealing with God.
01:15:21 --> 01:15:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You see a completely not a different story, but a fuller fleshy note of what was really going on.
01:15:27 --> 01:15:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And it just shows you how so many of these historical events, how so much of history is man.
01:15:33 --> 01:15:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Interacting with either rejecting, embracing, or going against, or false teaching, but so much of what we understand and know is man and his relationship with God.
01:15:42 --> 01:15:50 [SPEAKER_00]: History is so much just that, but oftentimes we get the secular, sterilized version of that story, and it just doesn't make sense.
01:15:50 --> 01:15:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, this has been Troy, and this has revived us, and I hope you enjoyed it.