It is no secret that the church has diminished in the West. But we rarely talk about the men who made it their goal to destroy that church.
Listen as we chronologically walk through the guys who set their aim to wipe out the church and decide together if they were successful or not.
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00:19 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_01]: There is a old church in England.
00:22 --> 00:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw this video very recently where a person walked up, you know what I'm talking about.
00:33 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And this person is like, oh, this is an old church where people go to worship, right?
00:38 --> 00:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And the person in the video is clearly a Muslim.
00:41 --> 00:42 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes, no, anymore.
00:42 --> 00:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And it shows him inside the church in his in England.
00:45 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a pulpit, but it's very clearly been remodeled.
00:47 --> 00:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It's now.
00:48 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_01]: a mosque and I remind of me you have another article I saw not that long ago as a few years ago, but it's you can go find it Where it talks about one of the new trends in Europe, which is to take old churches and turn them into bars or to turn them into Literally one has been turned into a rock climbing wall where they've left the the old glass the stainless You know glass and what's the stainless steel the beautiful glass that you see in those echoed the drills
01:16 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But now it's a rock climbing wall.
01:18 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you just climb off the side and you can get some food and stuff afterwards and these are churches But not anymore Right, they've been changed and I'm not breaking news here on a revive thoughts when I say that you know Europe many places in Europe I should say are struggling to you know stick with Christianity.
01:36 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not something that's It has lasted and a lot of places
01:41 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy to me though, because we spend so much time on revive thoughts talking about the past and there are so many people who in the past are from Europe, right?
01:50 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And they are people like Charles Spurgeon and he only died in 1892.
01:56 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been 130 years, that's a long time, but it's amazing.
02:01 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_01]: If you could take some money,
02:03 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_01]: from those time period, a person in Charles Spurgeon's Church or even Charles Spurgeon himself and teleport him to the future and show him a future where the churches of England are being used as mosques and rock climbing walls.
02:17 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_01]: If you could take the people from a couple hundred years back and show them that these people who used to fight to the death,
02:26 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: over which version of the church to follow and show them the results of today.
02:32 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they would be blown away.
02:33 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They would ask you who did this.
02:38 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And the answer so often, and most of my adult life, I believe the answer was we did.
02:45 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We the church did this, right?
02:48 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And there is truth to that.
02:49 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: We need to embrace that.
02:50 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Christians walking with the Lord can never be defeated.
02:53 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And if we have, you know, seeing a drift, seeing, you know, Christ's kingdom fall in Europe, it is partially, it is truly partially due to, you know, Christians who didn't walk faithfully with the Lord.
03:07 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The anger was pulled up and whether it was sin or temptation or what, yes, the church has its part to bear.
03:16 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But on another level, one of the more shocking revelations of my adult life was to realize we also didn't do this.
03:23 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by that is this isn't some accidental thing, you know, I kind of always viewed the church kind of collapsing in Europe and in America and Canada, wherever you see the western church falling by the wayside today.
03:37 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is not to say that it's completely over, you know, people will point to revival.
03:41 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_01]: There's many, I'm not saying the battle is lost.
03:44 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there are even places in Europe where some change is happening where people are trying to stand up for Christianity.
03:50 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to demean that, but I think we can all agree.
03:53 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: that 200 years ago, there was a lot of higher church tenants across Europe in America than there is today.
03:59 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And what I'm saying is, I learned it was not an accident.
04:03 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: There were people who wanted to see the church fall.
04:08 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, a picture in a movie where one of the coolest scenes, you know, a scene I always like in any action movies, where the demolition team kind of comes together.
04:16 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And each person does their part, you know, one person places the dynamite, another place or whatever it is, and boom, it all comes crashing down, right?
04:24 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was each person playing their part quickly.
04:27 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_01]: but they allowed the heister or whatever action, you know, in a spy movie or something like that to happen, right?
04:32 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always a fun moment.
04:33 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we are living right now in the results of that.
04:37 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen the explosion.
04:38 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen the collapse and I don't think many of us realize there was a team, a demolition team.
04:44 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_01]: that intentionally blew it up.
04:46 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We, the church did drift.
04:48 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The church did fail.
04:49 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_01]: The church did fall away from the Lord.
04:51 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
04:51 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that if we had been truly pursuing Christ with the best theology and the best Bible studies and all those things, absolutely.
04:58 --> 05:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But, but also we were up against a strong enemy.
05:01 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that person that we time teleported, time travel to the future.
05:05 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And he looked around and said, what did you guys go up against?
05:08 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: We would actually, we most Christians would scratch their heads and go, I don't really know.
05:13 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I didn't know we had any enemies.
05:15 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that there were people who were intentionally trying to destroy the church and get rid of the church.
05:21 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean we were up against the enemy and they, but it's still funny because if you look at the Roman Empire, one of the big claims of Christianity is like the Roman Empire and I learned recently on Mars and Missionaries with my wife, the Persian Empire, tried to wipe out Christianity in the early days and failed.
05:37 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But this enemy that destroyed the church in the West or at least did great harm to the church in the West.
05:44 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: was able to do with the Romans and the Persians and many others throughout history of attempted to do and have not been able to do.
05:50 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is absolutely smothered the church.
05:53 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_01]: What was this demolition team?
05:55 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Who were these people that attempted to wipe out the church and they were many of them were a group of people that you wouldn't necessarily think even matter so much.
06:06 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They were the philosophers and thinkers of this world.
06:13 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I, there's a, there was a version of Colossians, so it's, do not be, you know, caught up by finding the sounding arguments and Colossians, too.
06:20 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And that Paul warns about the philosophies of this world.
06:24 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, I think I put up on a, on line recently, I 100 comments on this discussion.
06:29 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, do Christians need to know philosophy better.
06:32 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And over and over again, the response that people gave me was, if you know the Bible, you don't need it.
06:38 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And although I do agree, I complete an agree.
06:41 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: The word of God is all we need.
06:43 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I also think that maybe part of the reason we got so bamboozled, because so wiped out by this secret demolition team is because who wasn't even working in secret.
06:53 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they, I'm gonna show you their readings.
06:55 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna show you their own words.
06:56 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_01]: They're very clear about what they wanna do and who they view as the enemy of their movement.
07:02 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's very obvious to them, Christians in the church is standing against what they want.
07:08 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, what blew me away was just how blatant they were, right?
07:13 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if I found out, you know, if I see a bomb go off in Chicago, but then we find out that, you know, some Canada or something had been writing for decades, we want to blow up Chicago and then we see a bunch of Canadian ware in front of it.
07:24 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: At least we have to ask the question, Canada, did you blow up Chicago, right?
07:25 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And if we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've,
07:31 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: that the church is collapsed and many places in many ways and we we like to put the blame here and there and everywhere but what if part of the reason for the blame is the people who told you that they wanted to do this and that it was their life goals to do this.
07:48 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But we like to split philosophy off.
07:49 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that a lot of people who even just hearing the word philosophy, their brains are already turning off.
07:52 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're driving, this could be very threatening to you right now.
07:57 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And there are people who love philosophy.
07:58 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_01]: There are people who are all about philosophy.
08:01 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Good friend of the show, Patrick, is a big fan who has caged the cross podcast.
08:04 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He reads a lot of episodes.
08:05 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So a guy like him is going to hear, I think discussion like this and be very interested.
08:09 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And he probably has lots of great thoughts.
08:11 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But there are other people who are going to hear this and they're going to go, ah, philosophy.
08:15 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know, what do I have to learn from those guys?
08:18 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, we shouldn't do that.
08:21 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of Christians but a lot of good effort into learning theology.
08:24 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, they leave philosophy out.
08:25 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like we split these two sides.
08:27 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But philosophy is really, in my opinion, oftentimes, just the secular godless attempt to be theologians.
08:34 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They're doing what they can without the inspired word of God oftentimes.
08:38 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And I know there were Christian philosophers, but the oftentimes is just them trying to think their way through things without God.
08:44 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think knowing their thoughts,
08:46 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: can be very helpful, especially when we realize that their thoughts have poisoned so much of the air we breathe.
08:53 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the very school year, I teach as a semester on Church history, but I spend the last couple of weeks looking at what I'm going to share with you today.
08:59 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is very familiar territory to me because I teach it to my students.
09:04 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And every year I have a couple of students writing to me and Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee, Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee
09:31 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: through these these ideas.
09:32 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think this can be really helpful for all of us.
09:34 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope I hope you find this helpful.
09:37 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually while working on this and talking with my wife, at least it's actually inspired.
09:41 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to do, I think I might be branching out a future podcast out of this.
09:45 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We have another one that's about to come out soon and that the course you've heard of Joel's real missionaries in real time, you should go check out and subscribe to, but there's going to be another one I think in the future, hopefully by the end of the year.
09:54 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even sooner called horrible humans and it's going to be based on this episode and based on the series of just looking at people who ruined the church ruined the world We live in made this world a worse place for all of us, and I think I think it'd be a very helpful tool.
10:08 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Christians need to start attacking this stuff more directly and Quit quit leaving philosophy to the philosophers quit leaving these ideas because they do affect us, and I'm gonna explain how
10:19 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: First off, it's important to note that a lot of the ideas for this, but a lot of the ideas for what I started here came from a man named Carl Truman, he wrote a book called the Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self.
10:30 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Very helpful book.
10:32 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I can say that I probably read it in one of the most unique places and unique ways.
10:35 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_01]: If Truman would ever hear this episode or anybody knows him, you can let him know that there was a man and it's a Honigville, Cambodia.
10:44 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_01]: at a fried chicken restaurant with a playground inside, and while his two children ran around playing in the inside playground, he was sitting there.
10:52 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Reading this book and eating hot fried chicken and glued to the book, glued to it.
10:59 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely wasn't.
11:00 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You see that by the way, Southeast Asia, Asia loves fried chicken.
11:03 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I was, so it was very good chicken.
11:06 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was loving it.
11:08 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't put it down every time, read a chapter, I'd come home and go, oh, at least this, I learned some really good stuff.
11:13 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't that it was like all brand new information.
11:15 --> 11:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it was very much the opposite.
11:16 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I learned a lot of philosophy and college.
11:19 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And in high school, I have always been very interested in this subject, because I think the way people think is interesting.
11:24 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But I never, he gave me a scaffold.
11:26 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was able to chronologically show, this is how everything happened.
11:30 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Truman's goal is to show how the human being and how sexual ideology and stuff like that.
11:37 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He was really going after his book thesis kind of like, how did we go from, you know, your great grandpa who fought in World War II.
11:45 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_01]: who would have never imagined people identifying as something other than what they are, like this didn't make sense to him, to a generation of children who were switching their genders.
11:56 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you do that?
11:57 --> 12:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And he has point was there was a great current of movement of thought that it wasn't random.
12:02 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't just all sudden one day happen.
12:04 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_01]: People don't, we're so reactionary today, but there was actually intentional movement in this direction.
12:09 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: By the time you read the book, you realize it was very obvious this is where it was gonna go from the start.
12:14 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But when I was fascinating to me, and I don't think it was an intentional sub theme of the book, but I don't think it was an intentional by Truman.
12:21 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just how often these people were anti the church.
12:25 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You could really tell that there was a movement to destroy and take on Christianity and take down the church and take down the West to that way.
12:32 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And for me, that's fascinating.
12:33 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So I added these to my
12:34 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, my church history class.
12:36 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I brought in these stuff.
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I did my own.
12:37 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I did more research.
12:38 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I get in Truman very much in inspiration.
12:40 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope if you you're listening to this episode, you've recently read that book or read it for you.
12:44 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You will see definitely a lot of the themes of that book and even some direct quotes from the book.
12:48 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But I have added a lot to myself.
12:50 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And I also have added a lot more people that Truman didn't mention.
12:53 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure you would have if you could have.
12:54 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I use got a couple of new books.
12:55 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I might have to check them out over time.
12:57 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_01]: If I another delicious fried chicken restaurant to take my kids to so I can read the next couple of books of that.
13:01 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But
13:02 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, without further ado, I made my case why we need to hear this, why we need to be aware.
13:07 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the number one reason though, as my students really reminded me this year, as I had students who'd grown up in the Trichron up in Christian families who wrote to me, and families that are oversea workers is very serious families, but they left me, you know, in their comments and they were just like, I learned, they learned a lot this year.
13:23 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But they specifically, a couple of them targeted these, like I didn't realize how much worldly philosophy worldly leanings were in me until you pointed out where they came from and I had another girl who's who had a cousin going to a Christian school who was being raised in the wrong kind of Christianity and Christian where the Bible isn't real philosophy is and all this stuff and she was able to help her point out like this is not you're not getting this from the Bible you're getting this from these people and it.
13:49 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It is tremendously helpful for people.
13:51 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: If you ever feel lost, like, how does the world get so crazy?
13:54 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it might help you to realize that there was a demolition team that made it their goal to do this.
14:00 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And so without going into further, let's do it.
14:01 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, who were the intentional saboteurs, who were the intentional people who brought down the church through the years, kept placing the dynamite and slowly boom, boom, boom, the church comes crashing down.
14:12 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And suddenly in the West, we see churches becoming these rock climbing walls and these mosques.
14:17 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't by accident.
14:19 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the modern secularist will attempt to portray the end of Christianity as starting with something like the Salem Witch Trials, like if you go to a history book, they love Salem Witch Trials, the 40 years war, they love any time Christians were violent, any time Christians were from nautical.
14:32 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And there may be some truth to those points, those points might have some, but the great awakening really cut it washed over the Salem Witch Trials, people doesn't really work for a good starting point.
14:41 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: especially in America.
14:43 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: As for, you know, the 40 years were, it may have been it, but I think pity people will live in the 1700s and Germany still saw the church at a very essential part of their life.
14:52 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a fair place would be, for me, would be to look at the beginning of the end of the church's reign, would be in France in the 1700s.
15:00 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the early men who attempted to get rid of churches in man named Voltaire, I'm not going to rewrite and rehash everything I talked about in Voltaire.
15:09 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We, here I have a five thoughts, did a very long, well loved episode on the French Revolution and how anti-Christian it was.
15:17 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Many people wrote in, they said I'd never,
15:19 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_01]: knew any of the things that had happened in that episode how the French tried to rewrite the week and make 10 day weeks with three days of weekend.
15:27 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It was an absolute massive failure.
15:29 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_01]: How they marched a woman around on a pedestal and called her to the goddess of wisdom.
15:34 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a wild episode.
15:36 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I even got invited on the Keith Foski show to share my thoughts on it and his audience also was like, I'd never heard any of this.
15:41 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
15:42 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So I really, but I really went into Voltaire and some of those guys on that episode.
15:46 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to go.
15:46 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Dig deep into an epic subject.
15:48 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I've already touched on by doing it.
15:50 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: This quote by Voltaire Really captured kind of the spirit of this that time period Which was quote every sensible man every honorable man must hold the Christian religion in horror Another one did a row a philosopher and France again at the time man will never be free into the last King is strangled with the entrails as the intestines of the last priest
16:11 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Another one, Baron, the whole book, says religion has ever filled the mind of man with darkness and kept him in ignorance of the real duties of true interests, is only by dispelling these clouds and phantoms of religion that we shall ever discover truth, reason and morality religion diverts us from the causes of evil and from the remedies which nature prescribes far from curing, it only aggravates multiplies and perpetuates them.
16:35 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you certainly can see here, these are some men with some very strong feelings about the church in Christianity.
16:40 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say if I grew up in France in the 1700s where they very, very backward system where very small percentage of the people controlled the country, the priests were kind of in on that system of money making.
16:53 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a good system to be in, a lot of nepotism, a lot of bad stuff.
16:57 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I could see why people would have animosity towards the church, at least in some places.
17:02 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I was worth noting that in the French Revolution episode we pointed out that people in the countryside loved their church and in fact a lot of them died because they refused to give up their church and did not go along with the French Revolution.
17:12 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, we did an episode in the French Revolution, that's not what we're here to rehash.
17:16 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the 1700s, the intellectuals were rebelling against God.
17:21 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_01]: What the reformation started was a revolution against a reformation against the church.
17:27 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And some of these people were continuing to take it further, which to the Catholic Church is credit, and I don't give them a lot of credit, but they did threaten and say, hey, if you start reforming things and splitting off, it weird as it end.
17:36 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And many ways the French Revolution is, but the Catholic Church would point out and say, that's what we were worried about if you left us.
17:43 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_01]: with that said, though, the person that I think we'll start with is Rousseau.
17:47 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same person that Truman started with.
17:49 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he is a fantastic starting place.
17:53 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_01]: In terms of philosophy, I'll put him, he laid down that for, you know, for we're building the demolition team, he's the first guy that he picked the target.
18:02 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I see a weakness right over there.
18:03 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the church.
18:05 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's very simple to see how he did to.
18:07 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He wrote a book called Confessions.
18:09 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who listens to this show is probably her one of our episodes by Augustine actually it was Keith Foski who read our own of our recent Augustine episodes so clearly right you've heard about it and one of his most important books is Confessions I have read Confessions has been a while it's probably been about a decade so I might need to reread it again but a long book a lot of interesting things actually what am I saying?
18:28 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We used to have a show called Revive Devos and once a week we put out a little piece of Confessions out there for you to listen to learn from and enjoy so Augustine and Confessions are well known
18:38 --> 18:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're so we're to book by the same name, and he opens the book with I have resolved on an enterprise, which has no precedent in which once complete will have no imitator.
18:49 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: My purpose is to display him to my kind, a portrait, and every way true to nature, and the man I will portray will be myself.
18:57 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I know my heart and have studied mankind.
18:59 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I am not made like anyone I have been acquainted with, perhaps like no one in existence.
19:03 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_01]: If not better, I at least claim originality.
19:07 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's opening a book and auto biography.
19:12 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: called Confessions, which is the exact same name of the book and the exact same thing that Augustine did.
19:18 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But he's saying I'm doing something very original that no one has ever done before.
19:22 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing something no one, now you could say he's just really bad and stupid and didn't do his researcher his homework, but that's obviously not the case.
19:30 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He's intelligent man.
19:31 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone in the 1700s certainly would have known what Confessions is about and it was a very well-known book.
19:38 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, today I, the only equivalent I could think of is up today.
19:41 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I wrote a, wrote a title and called a declaration of dependence or, you know, the capitalist manifesto or something like that.
19:47 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You would know just by hearing those words, I'm referencing that other very famous title.
19:52 --> 19:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I don't know.
19:54 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe actually I should have picked something more fictional like, you know, Sherry Potter or something.
19:57 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
19:58 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know that I'm referencing something that's already in existence and...
20:02 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're supposed to do.
20:04 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're so, if he's writing the same type of book and he's giving it the same name as Augustine, then what he's trying to say that's different about him is not the idea of an autobiography, what we've named Confessions.
20:15 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It's what his content is going to be.
20:17 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He's very clearly saying, I'm going to attack Augustine.
20:21 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Augustine is one of the biggest church fathers in the world.
20:24 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Catholics and Protestants, both love him.
20:26 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Both groups would say that he's influenced their theology.
20:29 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the most important theologians I've ever lived.
20:33 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And so if Rousseau is writing a book by the same name, with the same idea of an autobiography, it's very clear.
20:38 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, I'm coming after this guy.
20:41 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go after the king.
20:44 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna let you know that this book is aiming to take down the other guy.
20:50 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible for us to understand just how much Augustine was respected by everybody.
20:56 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And if for a good reason, I read Confessions, it was a great book, very thorough, a little long at parts of my monest.
21:03 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I use this if I ever want to get like my class to just think about something for a minute and break their brain.
21:07 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a part in the middle of confessions, where Augustine points out, he goes, you know, we have memories.
21:14 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But one of the weirdest things about memories is we can forget things.
21:18 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But we remember that we forgot them.
21:21 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, if we truly forgotten it, wouldn't we have like, there shouldn't be any memory of it.
21:24 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But then we see that thing that we forgot.
21:26 --> 21:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, I had forgotten that.
21:27 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But how did you forget it?
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: How did you remember that you forgot it?
21:30 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, even weirder is that in our memories, not only can we forget things and then remember
21:37 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I can look at you and go, I can't remember your name, I don't, I know it's not Mike, I know it's not George, I know it's not Sam, but what is it?
21:45 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So, how is that impossible that we can forget something, but we know what it isn't, very strange.
21:49 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that at my classes sometimes and they're sitting there like, wait, what is right, oh my goodness, it's a good shower thought for you right there, right?
21:56 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, there was a lot of other great stuff, Augustine said about God, it's conversion, it's a great story, but for the part one of the parts I'm interested about to me was his thoughts on memory and I was like, that's super weird stuff, okay.
22:06 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's, and the Augustine's book is very important, very early story, where Augustine is with some friends, they go out, they pick some fruit, and they steal it, they're stealing fruit from a neighbor, and they don't, he says, I'm not even hungry, we like to go one by the fruit and just threw it on the way home out.
22:22 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't.
22:22 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That we were hungry.
22:23 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't that the fruit was particularly good.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the fun of stealing.
22:28 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the sin itself that was pleasurable.
22:31 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And he pointed out that humans are sinners.
22:34 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just inside of us.
22:35 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to be taught how to steal fruit from a tree.
22:38 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_01]: They knew it because it's innate inside of them.
22:41 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is obviously a cornerstone, a building block of all Christian theology.
22:44 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was born and sent newer a sinner by nature.
22:47 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You've always been a sinner without Jesus.
22:52 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: What many people don't know?
22:55 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a quote.
22:56 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Augustine says it was foul and I loved it.
22:58 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved my own undoing.
22:59 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved my error not for which I aired but the error itself.
23:03 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved this in itself.
23:04 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying.
23:05 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I did praise so falling away from security in you to destruction as I was seeking nothing from the shameful deed but the shame that the fun of the sin was the sin.
23:15 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like, by the way, it's one of the reasons that story stood the test of time.
23:18 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, we all had moments when we did something sinful, just because it was sinful.
23:22 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We might have done that today.
23:24 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just who we are as humans.
23:27 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Rousseau's confessions, he also intentionally puts a story about stealing as a child.
23:34 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of fruit, he's stealing asparagus.
23:36 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He sees his boss has a mother that's growing a garden.
23:40 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And he told young Rousseau, hey, steal the asparagus for my mom and sell it on her behalf.
23:47 --> 23:48 [SPEAKER_01]: or a cell on my behalf.
23:48 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're so breaks none of the mom's garden steels from the relative seeking only he says quote seeking only to please my employer.
23:57 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But what began is a little way to help his boss get some extra luxuries.
24:00 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He works him.
24:01 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He starts taking a little bit of that money.
24:03 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's selling and puts it in his own pocket.
24:05 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: After all, he's the one taking the risk.
24:07 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the one working hard.
24:08 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Why shouldn't he get the money?
24:09 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And no one will believe him anyway.
24:11 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: If he got caught stealing hisparagus, nobody would say, oh, your boss did that.
24:13 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It would it would look
24:15 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So we think to be make it fair, he's going to take some of that money from the stolen Spherigas and put it in his own pocket.
24:21 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he starts stealing other things, too.
24:23 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Apple's tools, Trinket, Singsy, Fines, Line around the house.
24:26 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He feels utterly justified in all of it.
24:28 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He says a, quote, uh, Rousseau says a continual repetition of ill-treatment rendered me callous.
24:35 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_01]: People were mean to me, so I didn't care anymore.
24:37 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: that was my line there.
24:39 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed a kind of composition for my crimes, which authorized me to continue them.
24:43 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And instead of looking back at the punishment, I looked forward to revenge, being beat like a slave, I judge I had a right to all the vices of one.
24:52 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm going to be treated like a slave, he's saying, I'm going to act like one steal and be bad.
24:57 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And okay, two stories, both of them about stealing.
25:01 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Both of them are stealing things as a kid, both of them written in a book called Confessions.
25:06 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Rousseau was clearly attacking Augustine, received Rousseau, challenges Augustine says, no, no, you're not born evil.
25:14 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: My boss as the one who came up with the idea of the steel, and I only liked it because over time I became callous to the action.
25:23 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Humanity becomes corrupt, but not from inside of us, but from someone else.
25:31 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, you know, look, I don't know if you would say this, but you add on to this here.
25:35 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, how you, most of my listeners, listen, I think we'll never become cannibals, because you weren't grown up around cannibals.
25:41 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you grew up around cannibals on an island with cannibals, it's very high chance you would grow up to be a cannibal.
25:46 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You grew up in a family of thieves.
25:48 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You're very likely to become a thief.
25:49 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You grew up in a family of alcoholics.
25:51 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to grow up to be more likely an alcoholic.
25:53 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You,
25:54 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_01]: are not born sinful, is our root says argument.
25:58 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You are made sinful by this society around you.
26:04 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And we all know, there is a slight, it's, it's, we've drifting from the word of God.
26:09 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not arguing with that, but there's a slight amount of truth that we are able to create our own sins.
26:12 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_01]: There are many stories of good Christian families where a child goes off, of course.
26:16 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But there are also some truth to the idea that, you know, you are affected by the sins of the people around you.
26:20 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The societal sins of your generation tend to become your societal sins, right?
26:25 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason why, you know, I'm not worried about head hunting.
26:28 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Nearly as much as I would have been on these islands 100 or 200 years ago, because that's not the societal sins.
26:34 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_01]: necessarily of where I live at any point, right?
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Like these things have changed.
26:38 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not worried about the same things we used to be, but there is, I shouldn't say another more cannibalism at the point.
26:43 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you get the point.
26:45 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_01]: These aren't the things that go on anymore.
26:47 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We are, but also, we are evil.
26:49 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: The Bible is very clear.
26:50 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You're trapped in your sense without the Lord.
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27:07 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_01]: before society, before laws, before all these things that we have now, back in the cave days, humans were basically good.
27:15 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: They were the Garden of Eden, and his mind was kind of real, but it's not the Garden of Eden you and I recognize where we took fruit in Protestant, this world, this society was what brought it in.
27:26 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And those ancient days, a man, you know, he kind of makes the argument that there was once an ancient, you know, tribe or something or group of people living together, one man saw a beautiful life that wasn't as entoked, another guy saw more food going to someone and took it and soon society created sin through envy.
27:44 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_01]: society created sin.
27:46 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Now again, he's getting some parts right, Satan and Vietan, Eve and Vietan, but he's taking these ideas that have some truth to them.
27:53 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: He's spinning them into something bad.
27:55 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So sin is really, thinks the world is broken, but it's caused by a broken society.
28:01 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The human
28:06 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Russo also really hammers the idea and he has a couple things he really pushed it on and the reason I spent a lecture time with this guy we're going to look at a few guys here a lot of guys here but he really got to understand he pushed down a lot of the original ideas that will overflow society.
28:20 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, today, I know, you know, I would, you could see this idea that you're basically a good person everywhere today, of course, but even more so we're so said, because we live in an evil society, we repress ourselves, we desire things that we wish we could have that back in the good primitive state, we could just walk over and take.
28:40 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We could just take that fruit from the tree and enjoy it.
28:42 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever we measured, whatever we wanted, we just had.
28:45 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But because we now live in society, society forces us to follow rules, follow laws, follow traditions, and follow customs, and that forces us to put on masks.
28:57 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We are now hiding who we really are.
29:01 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And that that is hurtful, harming us, creating more envy, creating more repression, creating more pain and society.
29:07 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, to a degree, kind of hammers on the same idea too, but he would say we're taking on roles, right?
29:13 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And every person interaction I have, I interact differently, I interact differently with you.
29:17 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_01]: We're listening right now.
29:18 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_01]: My listener, if I meet you and I met many of you, I am going to interact with you a little differently than I would interact with my mom, or she does listen to.
29:26 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, interact differently than my students, so I'm a teacher too.
29:29 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I interact differently with my friends.
29:30 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I interact differently with my wife, and then I do with my kids.
29:33 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_01]: We take on different roles.
29:35 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: and that's normal, it would be very strange.
29:38 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the strange aspects in the eight hundred societies, we try to act the same with everybody.
29:42 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's because we're trying to be authentic to ourselves.
29:45 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to quote, be ourselves, right?
29:47 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We've all heard that, but that's coming from or so.
29:50 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_01]: This idea of being yourself was, it's all throughout history, but it was really authenticated and pushed by, you know, you see it on social media all the time.
29:59 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_01]: People want authentic influencers.
30:02 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is why people when they have a hard day, they turn their camera on and cry.
30:06 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I think one of the least authentic things that maybe you can do is turn a camera on and cry.
30:11 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But we want raw, real things, you know, when I remember somebody who used to work with famous people, so when the first things people ask you, when you work with famous people and you tell them, oh, I met you know, so and so or so and so they say, is he actually nice?
30:24 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is Tom Hanks nice is is this for we want to know are they really who they portray themselves to be right?
30:32 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember a famous comedian who made a lot of jokes about being a nice guy very funny nice guy all his jokes were like I'm too nice to be mean But then he got he got I read a story from a person in men.
30:44 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm and he was actually a total jerk and I couldn't find any of his jokes funny after that Because I was like well this old this old stick is I'm I'm a I'm a nice guy, but it's not
30:53 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean the jokes for any less funny afterwards is he was his jokes should have landed but because they no longer felt like they were real.
31:00 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They were coming from this fake guy and thinking of his jokes for a funny from that point forward.
31:05 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_01]: We place a high value on authenticity.
31:08 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And this doesn't mean necessarily that's bad.
31:11 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course we do.
31:12 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_01]: We have your buying something from somebody you want to know that he's not tricking you.
31:15 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_01]: A pastor who gets up and says, you know, I don't really believe in you this.
31:19 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually a firm believer in Krishna, but he'll also open the Bible today.
31:22 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course you don't want that, right?
31:24 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll think the city, we do need that to something green.
31:27 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But...
31:28 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Russo puts it on level of the masks that we wear are bad the customs and society and the rules and traditions all these things are bad and we must focus inward on ourselves find who we really are on the inside that's what will make you happy quit being what your expectations about there's always a living in just focus further and further inside yourself that is where your true happiness lies
31:56 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_01]: and that becomes a very dangerous idea.
31:59 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_01]: As a Bible is very clear.
32:00 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Truth in salvation is found outside yourself.
32:04 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You will never make yourself happy and if you will never make yourself safe, you will never make yourself a good enough person by turning inside to find the real, raw, authentic you.
32:15 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_01]: In reality,
32:18 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: You turn to the Word, the Word of God, the truth of the Lord.
32:21 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You surrender yourself to Christ.
32:23 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And as you do, he changes you, gives you a new heart.
32:27 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He gives you a new spirit, gives you a new life and him.
32:31 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And as you follow the way of the truth and life, you become that version.
32:35 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: of you that is walking with the Lord, you become closer with the Lord, you grow in sanctification, and that is how you truly become joyful and content in this life, is that relationship with God?
32:48 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But, we're so is having us turn inside ourselves, and we do not see this everywhere.
32:53 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_01]: People are constantly looking inside themselves, be happy.
32:57 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_01]: and that will find yourself.
32:59 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Be authentic.
33:00 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Be transparent.
33:01 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_01]: All of this is being driven from this idea that first, maybe didn't first start, but was really proliferated by a philosopher named herself who lived almost 300 years ago.
33:13 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We read a little bit more from him, and then I'll get to how his philosophy became ours.
33:17 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Whenever the last trumpet shot sound, I would present myself before the sovereign judge with this book in my hand, and loudly proclaim, this is how I acted.
33:25 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_01]: These were my thoughts, such was I, with equal freedom and veracity have I related what was a lot of blur wicked.
33:32 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I have concealed no crimes, added no virtues.
33:34 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Such as I was, I have declared myself sometimes vile and despicable at others for Jewish generous and sublime, even as you have read my inmost soul, of course.
33:42 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what Rousseau is saying.
33:44 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I've really, I've really get a show in myself.
33:46 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I've given you the raw, unvarnished version of who I am.
33:50 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that true?
33:51 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
33:52 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't know, right?
33:53 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously he's writing a book.
33:55 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine he does edit some of his thoughts, but if you've ever read the book, you do know that he puts some very interesting stories there that maybe not, I would have told.
34:03 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not telling them on this podcast, but there's some odd ones.
34:06 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recommend them.
34:08 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_01]: With that said, notice it.
34:10 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stand before my maker.
34:12 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is who I really am.
34:14 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm standing before you.
34:15 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling the raw truth.
34:16 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds just like social media videos and posts and things.
34:20 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_01]: You see all the time, doesn't it?
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34:39 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He believed we had to take the mask off.
34:41 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That too much of human society was just hiding who we are.
34:43 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And we needed it all become like him.
34:45 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Resil also wrote a notebook and it was a called Emily.
34:49 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it's Emily.
34:51 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a French name.
34:51 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure it may be to Emily.
34:53 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's not a boy.
34:54 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like not a girl.
34:56 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I would have thought.
34:56 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Because in my mind, Emily is a girl's name.
34:58 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Even later, whatever it is, it's actually a boy.
35:01 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_01]: and talk about how to raise a child under his philosophies.
35:05 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you make a kid grow up the right way, uncorrupted by society?
35:11 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a story about this tutor raising this child doesn't imagine, but kind of going through the steps of how you would raise a kid.
35:16 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And one thing he says in the book, quote, everything is as good as it leaves the hands of the author of things, everything degenerates in the hands of man.
35:23 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So everything's good from God, right?
35:24 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But it becomes evil when human's touch it.
35:26 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Now clearly we saw, you know, he's not a big fan of God.
35:29 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wouldn't trust me.
35:30 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a huge fan of his.
35:32 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But the idea is everything's good.
35:34 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The kind of a deistic God.
35:35 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We make it evil.
35:38 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you think, well, he sounds like you say something kind of pro church today.
35:41 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that philosophy might be just fine on the bookshelf today, but this book was banned in 1762 and burned by the Catholic church day, not like it, but a couple, when the French Revolution took over, they took this book and they made it.
35:53 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the central tenants of their education system and Webster actually who helped put together America's education system and love this book.
36:02 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He said it was like a cornerstone idea.
36:04 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So what is it?
36:05 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: What is in the book?
36:06 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the book saying?
36:07 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_01]: What is what is Rousseau going to say is the greatest way to raise children and and make them smart enough for the world and in his idea.
36:13 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he said he would raise them without books.
36:17 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_01]: education.
36:18 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He tells a story of instead of teaching children through the reading of books, which was so very common.
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And it really was common.
36:25 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He looked at John of the Deadward's life and how many books the guy read.
36:29 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a John Calvin, John of the Deadward.
36:31 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We go over these people constantly on your show.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They are highly, highly well-educated men, not any longer.
36:37 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Rousseau is going to raise them.
36:38 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_01]: to understand how to think without these books without the influence of society.
36:43 --> 36:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Books are just another way society influences you.
36:46 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about a story of taking a kite outside and the father and child, the tutor, fly a kite, and what kind of inferences and things can you learn about the world?
36:54 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, look at the kite, see how it's blown about by winds.
36:57 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_01]: That's society blowing you about, you must be brave and strong and have a rope or a tether.
37:02 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_01]: When the child is finally able to read, he says, when the child is finally able to read and he's, he's gonna give him his first book, what book does he give him?
37:10 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The 1700s, what book are you gonna give him?
37:13 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Finally able to read, you wanna keep him from being influenced by society.
37:17 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Why use Emily this child, Robinson Crusoe.
37:20 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
37:21 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
37:22 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about a man who was abandoned from society, as on an island, it has to use his own genius to create, you know, his home, his house and everything.
37:30 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the perfect example of what we're so once, a primitive man, back out on his own only relying on himself.
37:38 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_01]: The child is taught all kinds of things that have these modern echoes.
37:41 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And in Montessori schools say that we look at Rousseau, the study of let the child choose what they want to learn.
37:48 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Comes from Rousseau, and again, there's some parts of it's true.
37:52 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little some kids are geared towards math, some kids are geared towards art.
37:55 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense to force all of our art kids to take.
37:58 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: calculus three and it doesn't make sense for all of our calculus kids to learn.
38:02 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I understand that we do have certain leanings and I do understand the freedom of allowing children to choose to agree but but we're so wanted to get rid of the books and I can't but think.
38:14 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If we looked at our modern schooling system, we look at the extremely high literacy rates around us.
38:19 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Russo would look at that as a positive.
38:22 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_01]: The book's have been gotten rid of, and I can't even feel like since our education system, the people who founded it said this book was a cornerstone for the education systems they wanted.
38:33 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe they got their desire.
38:36 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the reason people aren't able to read so well is because it was was actually by design by the people who created it said they didn't want you reading books after all.
38:44 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be a free thinker and society's influencing you through all these pesky books.
38:50 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Rousseau says educate women like men, which you know, and the more they resemble you're interesting.
38:55 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a direct quote in the middle of him.
38:56 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of sexist, but also the more women resemble our sex, the less power they will have over us.
39:03 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very interesting way to look at the current education system.
39:08 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_01]: You believe that women were meant to be passive and weak, but they could often control men, hence make them seem as similar to men as possible.
39:15 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you notice our education system does not, in any way, treat men and women differently.
39:19 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's equal, right?
39:20 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_01]: We want equality.
39:22 --> 39:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you treat women and men differently?
39:25 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, is it possible women in men do think and act differently?
39:29 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe putting them in the exact same system as in the good idea, maybe we are accidentally just doing what RISO said.
39:35 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I don't know how many great ideas on this guys, but I'm just saying, maybe there's, have we even questioned the idea?
39:41 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_01]: of teaching them differently.
39:43 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And we even con-conceived the idea that maybe women and men are so different that they shouldn't be in the exact same classrooms.
39:50 --> 39:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And not to say, oh, I'm in school, I'm in school, or things like that, but maybe just teaching them.
39:55 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it, are we truly reaching them because men and women should learn exactly the same and that's the best way to reach them?
40:02 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Or are we just following or are so as idea of trying to equalize the sexists so women have less power over men?
40:08 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Russo also will begin our very important theme in undoing the church that there is a utopian perfect state for mankind.
40:18 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like he believed that the education of the young was extremely important and we'll see this theme come throughout and all of our thinkers, the aim for young people.
40:28 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_01]: We will also see that just like there was once a primitive perfect man who was good,
40:34 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_01]: society back in that direction and eventually get to a place where we have moved to to the place we want to get to to the place where humans are good again where everything's good again where if we just get humans back into their original good state everything would go back to the way it's supposed to be and we need to be utopian about it who's in the way of this role of course society but very specifically one part of society really drew drove
41:02 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Christianity preaches only servitude and dependence.
41:06 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's spirit is so favorable to tyranny that it always profits by such a regime.
41:12 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: True Christians are made to be slaves and they know it and do not mind.
41:15 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: The short life counts for too little in their eyes.
41:18 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But whoever dares to say outside the church is no salvation, not to be driven from the state.
41:22 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Unless the state is the church and the prince is a pontiff.
41:24 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So, Dejagma is good only for theocratic government in any other it is fatal.
41:28 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Another quote I've been brought up in a church which decides everything and permits to no doubts.
41:32 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So, having rejected one article of the faith, I was forced to reject the all of it.
41:38 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Voltaire himself didn't like, it's somebody's quotes come directly from Emily, uh, the book on how to raise the child, and involtaire himself actually a huge critic of the church, but he said, of Emily, it is, quote, a hodgepodge of silly wet nurse in four volumes with 40 pages against Christianity, among the boldest ever-known, and again, this is from Voltaire guy who criticized the church relentlessly.
42:00 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, as many hurtful things about the philosophers as against Jesus Christ, but the philosophers will be more indulgent than the priest.
42:07 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, Rousseau is not a friend to the church.
42:10 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, Rousseau saw the church in Christianity was against his great utopian scheme but making people happy.
42:16 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He never saw the French revolution that would come about.
42:18 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He died about 13 years or so before it really got going.
42:21 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But the government of France are a belly and against God.
42:23 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And Rousseau did not live in France, he lived over in Switzerland.
42:27 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, they were all over the place these guys were all about it and he clearly would have loved this idea of Rebellion against God.
42:33 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: In many ways, the French Revolution is the culmination of his life, work all of his desires to see the church fall.
42:39 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He thought the French Revolution, if he lived it, I think he would have thought this is it.
42:43 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It's happening.
42:43 --> 42:44 [SPEAKER_01]: The moment is here.
42:45 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Even the phrase, let them eat cake, you know, famously a part of Marie Antoinette, right, is the children even know that phrase.
42:53 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Let them eat cake, Marie Antoinette said it, and they cut her head off, right?
42:57 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And many people who know history a little bit know, actually know she never said that.
43:01 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But do you know who did say that?
43:02 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Where did this phrase come from?
43:04 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It came from or so.
43:05 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It came from confessions.
43:07 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I once knew a princess who when people were hungry, they said they had no
43:15 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That story isn't about Marianternet, that story isn't actually about any, and we don't even know if that princess story existed or was real.
43:23 --> 43:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But Rousseau's ideas became the French Revolution quite literally the hallmark quote of it is from him.
43:31 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_01]: His work was all over it, and the bloody massacre, the many, many people who died in it, are also in many ways tied to his beliefs.
43:41 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_01]: What happened to Rousseau?
43:42 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_01]: What is old age?
43:43 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You went literally crazy.
43:44 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You became severely paranoid.
43:46 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Historians are like, hey, you know a lot of people were against him as works were burned.
43:50 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_01]: People didn't like him as paranoia was justified, you know, it wasn't that bad.
43:55 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I even Google AI told me he didn't go crazy.
43:58 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He just, let me quote, he just became deeply convinced of the massive international conspiracy was orchestrating his own destruction.
44:06 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he also believed that his friends, strangers, were paid actors hired to mock him.
44:12 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He believed his food was poisoned.
44:14 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He would go around changing his name and changing his dress to put on disguises.
44:19 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
44:19 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Google AI.
44:21 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that he might have gone crazy.
44:22 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for letting me know that all he did was constantly change his name, put on giant mustache, and go around saying, that's not a person, that's a hired actor mocking me.
44:31 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he might have gone crazy.
44:33 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He believed former friends like Voltaire, Hume, French government, that just was everyone was trying to silence him.
44:39 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
44:40 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
44:40 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, sounds like we're so didn't go crazy.
44:43 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like a perfectly normal way to end one's life.
44:46 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Sad.
44:47 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
44:47 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The man who was all about finding yourself and being free and vulnerable is final end was not trusting anyone around him and paranoid all the way to the end.
44:58 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_01]: finding the real you was the mission of her so.
45:01 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_01]: In 2024, Stephen Ferdick, mega pastor over elevation worship, responsible for many, many songs, sung around the world.
45:08 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I've lived in countries all around the world, and you hear, oh, come to the altar, gyra, worthy, graves into gardens, more than able, these are songs known all over the world and churches all over.
45:20 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he wrote it this guy, Stephen Ferdig is a mega pastor of the church that writes these songs and his writing credits are on that.
45:27 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, after I went over one of these lessons, my students came to me after chapel, I saw Stephen Ferdig's name on that.
45:32 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We all were like, that's the guy.
45:34 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I have a little bit of a special relationship with him as that I met him when I was younger.
45:38 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Stephen Ferdig is not just not even relevant, but it is interesting to me if you don't have much thoughts on the gentleman.
45:44 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know him, he is humongous church.
45:47 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_01]: He's very, I don't know, Prosperity Gospels, the right word for him.
45:52 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: He's very much an entertainer and entertainment seeker.
45:54 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_01]: However, when I knew him, his personality is very, very different.
45:57 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The church that I went to, I attended while I was in high school, invited him who was kind of a conference speaker at a summer camp.
46:03 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_01]: We went to a can to our church at a fall camper treat.
46:07 --> 46:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's nothing like nothing like Stephen Vertich.
46:09 --> 46:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He's seen today, Stephen Vertich today has a fashionable clothing,
46:13 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But this even vertical we knew he came to the morning worship and he was leading it and he was like, did you guys add breakfast and we're like, yeah, he's like, did you like your breakfast?
46:21 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, pancakes are pretty good, you know, we're normal stuff.
46:24 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You say it like a summer or the thought of camper tree kind of thing.
46:26 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, I hope you thanked God for it because there are people starving around the world and Africa right now.
46:31 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, kind of feel bad about that now, buddy.
46:34 --> 46:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And I very specifically remember, this is etched in my memory as deeply as anything in that time period.
46:40 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_01]: But I remember there was a girl who never attended our church she was going to this retreat for the first time.
46:45 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like trying to quote a movie.
46:47 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, obviously, even that movie, and it was a kind of known movie at the time and the girl was like, yeah, it's a walk to remember, or something like that.
46:52 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a walk to remember.
46:53 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember this moment very well.
46:55 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember movie titles very well.
46:58 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And for it goes, wow, good job.
46:59 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Remembering that movie, what size A and A and A and 13?
47:03 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And the girl's like, I don't know.
47:05 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, wow, we remember the movie title.
47:07 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So if only we remember the word of God that will boom, right?
47:10 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That's student-partic in my mind is just like a fairy-sacle guy, you know?
47:17 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And people were like, well, you know, he means, well, he's very passionate, it's very fiery.
47:22 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So my mind is blown today.
47:24 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_01]: When I first started seeing his pictures on books and stuff and I found out he was a mega pastor and I look at his church today and I go, whoa, that is a very different Stephen Fertic than the one I remember 20 years ago or so.
47:35 --> 47:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually, yeah, it's about 20 years ago.
47:39 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He wrote a book called, well, just a name of this book.
47:41 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_01]: The dude, the new you, that's it.
47:45 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And it opens with the true you.
47:47 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So if doing you in history that I'm proud to see I'm not adding anything.
47:50 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: This is word for word, what Stephen Ferdig wrote.
47:53 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So, if doing you has left you, stuck, and future you has left you discourage, where should you turn?
48:00 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Where should the pursuit of self-identity and self-acceptance lead you to the true you?
48:05 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: The you got created you to be, the person he knows sees and believes in.
48:10 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_01]: The person includes who you are today, but it isn't stuck there.
48:14 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It probably encompasses many of the yearnings and dreams you have for the future, but it isn't frustrated by the fact that you're not there yet.
48:20 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe with all my heart that God wants you to see yourself as he sees you, which is a lot more fully than you see yourself than he wants to help you live out the God-given identity.
48:29 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That God-given identity.
48:30 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the heart of this book to help you align your mind-sense with God's vision for you so you can live the most authentic version of yourself.
48:39 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_01]: After all, you haven't fully met you yet, but God has.
48:44 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He met the version of you because he made that version of you.
48:47 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_01]: The truth of you is still unfolding to you, but it is fully known by God.
48:52 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Only God sees past the personality you've displayed so far past.
48:55 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The circumstances you've experienced that helped shape today's edition of you all the way back to the person he created you to be.
49:02 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_01]: God has known you since before you were born, he knows what he put in you
49:09 --> 49:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I do hope that the many, many uses of the word you didn't distract you, my listener too much there, but did you see what he's doing there, right?
49:19 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, hopefully, I'm not crazy.
49:20 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The authentic you, the real you, the one that you were made to be before circumstances and life made you change who you are, the yearning and desire, it's all deep inside of you.
49:31 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Now of course any mech of where's a Bible verse on any of that right where's where's Jesus and any of that where it will show me one Bible verse where Jesus says I'm calling you to be the real you the you were meant to be the bullet none of that I don't that right he says I'll give you rest in him
49:50 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But he never says any of this stuff about the you, you're supposed to be in all of this.
49:54 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Where did it even for to get this?
49:56 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_01]: This is, I mean, in many ways, identical to Rousseau, Rousseau is saying you have a real you inside of you that you need to find and let go the masks, the society, or covering you, but you have to get to the real you on the inside.
50:08 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what Rousseau said.
50:09 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He just put the word God in there and said, God made you that way.
50:12 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But everything else is for is Rousseauian.
50:15 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't think that's Stephen Ferdig intentionally slipped anti-Christian or so ideas into his book.
50:24 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I may be so bold, as to say I'm not sure that Stephen Ferdig has ever read, or so.
50:30 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, for the better, we don't need to read or so, maybe.
50:33 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_01]: But how did it end up in his hands?
50:35 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_01]: How did what was once being perpushed by a guy who hates the church, clearly is against the church.
50:41 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_01]: and wanted people to be free from it.
50:43 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It was started from a book that was attacking Augustine 250 years later, is being given to us from a mega pastor.
50:49 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_01]: How?
50:51 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't read Rousseau.
50:53 --> 50:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So how did he end up mimicking and repeating it?
50:57 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Go on Instagram, go on TikTok, go on YouTube.
50:59 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_01]: What are the most common that we see it everywhere?
51:01 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Be you, you, the real you, how did all of this for so many ideas get out into the world?
51:06 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And this recall, Truman's book makes a very great point.
51:09 --> 51:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one I've always believed, but he explains it very well.
51:12 --> 51:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to use one of the lines he uses for recalls the unignalaged, unignalaged legislators of the world.
51:20 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He says they're poets.
51:21 --> 51:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Artists.
51:23 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Today's terms would be musicians and media.
51:27 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_01]: With the people unignalaged, we don't notice them.
51:29 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Legislators, they create the rules of this world.
51:32 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't knowledge legislators of the world.
51:36 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_01]: These people who create the very fabric, the very world we live, breathe, and eat.
51:41 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to pick an example.
51:43 --> 51:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to be very clear how I made this example.
51:46 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know sketchy.
51:47 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I shouldn't use an example.
51:49 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But I want to use an example because I think it's interesting.
51:51 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I had a student who was listening to avert for class.
51:55 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_01]: He was listening to Uncle Tom's cabin.
51:58 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And in Uncle Tom's cabin, written in the language of the 1800s, the person, the people in the book, you know, use a word as very, it's very bad word for black people.
52:10 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_01]: and it's used over and over and over throughout the book and the book is using the word A, it was common at a time, but B is emphasizing the point that this isn't, like the book is not endorsing that word, because on his cabin is not a fan of that word, it's using it to make a point.
52:23 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a mean word, right?
52:25 --> 52:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But I had this student, the student is living in Indonesia.
52:29 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He's nowhere, he's even, you know, when he traditional black people from like America.
52:34 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't know he's never had any.
52:36 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Any kind of relationship with the slave system.
52:38 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in no way attached.
52:41 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But he said he felt uncomfortable.
52:42 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like listening to this book, because I don't like hearing this word.
52:44 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He even said, I don't, I don't think the author, this audio tape that he was listening to, should be a lot of use this word, Mr. Frazier.
52:51 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought to myself that, as interesting, I don't see this as somebody who's a fan of that word or anyway in a doorstand where I think it's interesting to me that a person raised in Indonesia has no relationship with anything that happened in America, anything that happened to black people, if they happened to slavery, it could not be further removed from one another, right?
53:07 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what happened in America was under one system, he's raised is a former colony and a completely different system and yet this word deeply affects him.
53:19 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He sees it's very bad.
53:20 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_01]: We're Y, right?
53:23 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm sure there are very mean words in the Indonesia.
53:25 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I maybe kind of know some of them.
53:27 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And in American, don't feel that way towards those words.
53:30 --> 53:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like some words are universal.
53:32 --> 53:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Why that word?
53:34 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Where did he learn that that was such a bad word from?
53:36 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not promoting.
53:37 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he should say this where I think he said anything.
53:39 --> 53:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It is not a good word.
53:41 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But why was he afraid of it?
53:43 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Media.
53:45 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The world we live in taught him that that word is very bad.
53:49 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And that the music and the movies and the TV shows and this entire world from Netflix, everything.
53:55 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Says this is like a really mean word you should not say it.
53:57 --> 54:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And so this kid who has no relationships that history doesn't know anybody is, I'm never gonna, I can't believe I'm hearing this from a audiobook reader.
54:07 --> 54:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't the where do these things come from?
54:10 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They come from the unacknowledged legislators.
54:12 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They create and build out a society.
54:16 --> 54:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And they create the rules of that society.
54:19 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't even notice you wonder, how did we, how did we're so in the idea to end up in Stephenford's book?
54:27 --> 54:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they end up in his book because it's in our culture.
54:30 --> 54:32 [SPEAKER_01]: How did it end up in our culture?
54:32 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_01]: because of poets, because of artists, because of musicians, because of media, because the world is shaped by those who create these things that make us feel something.
54:45 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And 2022 Disney got in trouble when one of their Zoom meetings, but Disney executives was leaked, maybe you remember this, maybe you've never heard this before.
54:52 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_01]: but a writer of one of their shows admitted to what they said, and I'm quoting them, I had to mean a not-so-secret gay agenda, that's the end quote, and they were intentionally pushing LGBTQ characters into their movies and their shows, and they weren't alone.
55:04 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Another person, another person at the same meeting said, the stories we tell, the story is you green light determine the future that LGBTQ youth envision for themselves.
55:13 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_01]: What we see on screen, and how we are represented in forms, what we believe is possible.
55:18 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Another person, Alan March, a Hollywood person, created a tracker to ensure that movies and TV shows, that there was enough quote, canonical trans characters, canonical asexual characters, and canonical bisexual characters coming out of movies, TV shows, including those for children.
55:37 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_01]: creator of Children's cartoon Steven Universe said, you can't wait until kids have grown up to let them know that queer people exist.
55:43 --> 55:49 [SPEAKER_01]: If you wait to tell queer youth that it matters, how they feel or that they are even a person that's going to be too late.
55:49 --> 55:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Carrie Burke of 20th century, 20th century television president says,
55:53 --> 55:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, which she was tapped, she's over a bunch of different things, etc.
55:57 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_01]: She says, we have many, many, many, many eligible, this her words.
56:00 --> 56:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We have many, many, many eligible TQI characters, interstories, and yet we don't have enough leads and narratives in which gay characters just get to be characters and not to have all about gay stories.
56:09 --> 56:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We need even more.
56:10 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And she committed to ensuring that at least 50% of regular and reoccurring characters across Disney productions will come from underrepresented groups explicitly including
56:18 --> 56:21 [SPEAKER_01]: explicitly including, intentionally including LGBTQI.
56:22 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_01]: She added as a mother of two queer children, one transgender or one pansexual, this was a personal leadership priority.
56:30 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
56:31 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we all know this.
56:32 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_01]: If you raise children, you know.
56:34 --> 56:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even have to say this.
56:35 --> 56:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You're just listening to this and going, I know.
56:36 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't put any Netflix show on.
56:39 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to I mean, if my children want to watch a movie or we want to sit down and have a family movie night or something like that, which we know, we do sometimes, but we don't do as often as probably, I feel like I did as a kid for sure.
56:49 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Because we had to spend a good 20 minutes researching that show.
56:53 --> 56:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And then how many times were researching, ah, you know what?
56:56 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_01]: It's did look interesting, but no, it's got this and then we can't watch this.
56:59 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, guys.
56:59 --> 57:16 [SPEAKER_01]: my house we call it the bad rainbow and I've heard people say I really like that aim forward to use that too so if you if you need an aim for it to tell your kids you're wondering how to let your kids down easy I just say sorry guys got bad rainbow and my kids are like oh bad rainbow again and so I'm sorry it's true it's true
57:16 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_01]: According to peer research ideas from Hollywood Health and Society, a group that's for this stuff, they said research shows the more shows with transgender characters viewer saw, the more positive their attitudes towards transgender people and policies.
57:30 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Exposure to transgender news stories like in Caitlyn Jenner did not affect their attitudes, but exposure to two or more transgender story lines reduced the influence of political ideology on attitudes towards transgender people by half.
57:45 --> 57:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're clearly saying you are influenced by seeing a transgender storyline.
57:50 --> 57:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They said not only are you influenced have more positive feelings towards transgender people, but in fact you actually have your political ideology is shaped by this.
58:00 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not me speaking.
58:01 --> 58:07 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not some conservative blog or you know, something like maybe you would be, I don't know if I believe that.
58:07 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_01]: This is Hollywood Health and Society.
58:09 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a group of people who are proponents of the saying if we want to get transgender people.
58:14 --> 58:19 [SPEAKER_01]: to be accepted by society, we have to use movies, Hollywood and production to do so.
58:19 --> 58:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The LAD, which is a very pro this group, said, quote, As Roger Rebert said, ever said, sorry, film isn't empathy machine.
58:27 --> 58:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We know projects like Ellen, Will, and Grace, broke back Mountain, Milk, and Moonlight helped break down stereo times about game lesbian people and the timeline for marriage equality would have been remarkably different without them.
58:38 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Women, people of color, people with disabilities and diverse faith, you have made it clear, they want more authentic stories about their lives and fellows on TV, trans people feel the same way.
58:50 --> 58:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So, they are telling you, art, TV.
58:55 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It influences you.
58:57 --> 58:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to believe them?
58:59 --> 59:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you, do you, what do you think that they're just lying?
59:02 --> 59:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Why, they're openly admitting this is not a hidden thing.
59:04 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You can Google this is very easy to find.
59:05 --> 59:07 [SPEAKER_01]: They're, this is not some secret conspiracy.
59:08 --> 59:10 [SPEAKER_01]: They're telling you, we want to influence you.
59:10 --> 59:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We want you to think what we think and we're going to make Hollywood and artist movies and TV shows do that so that you accept us more.
59:20 --> 59:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an empathy machine.
59:21 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good way to say it's literally looking at characters and I can't tell you My times I've had a student come up to me and go I you know I used to think this thing about this you know with with homosexuality, but then I saw this TV show And I thought well, why can't they just be happy to go?
59:33 --> 59:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I've had that exact conversation with students before
59:38 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Media movies and music move society.
59:41 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_01]: The reason they do it is because it works.
59:42 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't read philosophy.
59:44 --> 59:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't sit around reading or so.
59:45 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Many people don't.
59:46 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And for probably good reasons to it agree.
59:48 --> 59:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But the adult knowledge legislators, the artists do.
59:52 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_01]: They're lovers.
59:53 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So they love deep books.
59:56 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_01]: They like to think themselves as deep thinkers after all.
59:58 --> 01:00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: They intentionally bring those philosophies and ideas into their art.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:06 [SPEAKER_01]: In 2012, 3% of Americans identified as LGBTQ.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_01]: In 2024, that movement had tripled to 9.3%.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:12 [SPEAKER_01]: That's actually seen a very recent decline.
01:00:13 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The high mark seems to be 2024.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And there is some, if you're in that, if you're worried about that, there is some good news.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_01]: The number of people identifying has these different things on college applications.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:24 [SPEAKER_01]: From 2023 to 2025, it was dropped by half.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Different places like Brown University, they once had 5% of people identifying as is sat in the other pronoun.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And now it's closer to 2.5% as of 2025.
01:00:33 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So the society changes, these things are not permanent, per se.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And even to a degree, there's been a pushback, a very firm pushback, and box offices have shown that the people did eventually react and say, we didn't like this stuff put into our movies.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and this is not like I'm not trying to get super political here.
01:00:53 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We are via thoughts do kind of tend to veer away from politics, not because we don't have political opinions and not because we don't think there's something to say.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just more just like, there's a lot of Christian politics podcasts.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:09 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of Christian stuff out there that's already covering theology today and stuff like that.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to focus on the history of it.
01:01:11 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's the point out that it's very obvious phenomena, art deeply influences us.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The reason Ferdick is talking about things and looking like he was so is because the world told him to media told him to.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He is still our air we breathe and be yourself is on the nearly every advertisement you can find, right?
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Playto knew the power of the artist in the back in his own day.
01:01:35 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Playto, when he was talking about his perfect republic, said, it seems that then that if a man who in his cleverness can become many persons and imitate things, he's talking about an actor or a poet, should arrive in our city, want to give a performance of his poems, we should bound down before him.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:49 [SPEAKER_01]: He's wholly wondrous and sweet.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: We should tell him there's no such man in our city.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not lawful for him to be there.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We will pour a mirror on his head.
01:01:56 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We will crown him with a wreath, and then we will send him away to another city.
01:02:01 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Plato feared the poet, the artist, the actor.
01:02:06 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no one like you in our city.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: We love you.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You're amazing.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: No, go.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not welcome to be here.
01:02:12 --> 01:02:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
01:02:12 --> 01:02:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He acknowledges their craft.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He acknowledges their power.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But then he kicks them out and says you're not welcome here.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's because he knows something that I think so many of us have forgotten.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I had a friend of mine once, yeah, he asked me, he was like, you know, I noticed some time, you look, you might judge me if you want on this, on this being real and honest, he said, I noticed and you know, in chapel and stuff, sometimes you don't seem every line to every song.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, come on, it's just music.
01:02:38 --> 01:02:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you sing it?
01:02:40 --> 01:02:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And I told him, I was like, actually, it's because it's just music.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, my heart, my brain is active.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: You try to put a thought in there that I don't agree with.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to argue with you.
01:02:48 --> 01:02:52 [SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to a advice, you hear these arguments happen on a revived conversations, Jill and I will go back at it.
01:02:52 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We have logic to us.
01:02:54 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But I believe it's Malcolm Lugger, and she said that through where the front door, the brain is ready to fight and defend art and music goes in through the back door into the heart.
01:03:04 --> 01:03:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen things without paying attention, but oftentimes music, media, movies have a much bigger impact on us.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_01]: than just a book, right?
01:03:14 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I can give you a book of full of World War II facts or I can show you a World War II movie that helps you feel like you were there which one of those things is going to stick with you?
01:03:24 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And the facts might be interesting.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I like facts too, but there's no denying that the average person is going to be moved, right?
01:03:30 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Saving private Ryan, probably the far more to change the way people view World War II than history clasted.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's just true.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: We are poetical people.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: We are often influenced by art and we sadly
01:03:47 --> 01:04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think too often think that, well, I'm not, it's just a song, it's just a movie, it's just a show, it's just a this, it's just a that, it's, it's very much because it is those things that we should be so careful and if Hollywood is very clear, we need to use an empathy machine to change people's hearts and minds, maybe we should ask the question, are we having a hearts and minds changed?
01:04:11 --> 01:04:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But Truman used a poem called the Garden of Love.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I like this poem, mainly because it's very clear that in the 1800s, the Garden of Love, as a very structure, you can see clearly what they were beginning to do as these poets of those days.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Poets for just, you know, the musicians really of their own time, right?
01:04:29 --> 01:04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have a lot of poets going, you know, I don't know any poets, but you know, many musicians and music is often just poetry put to write.
01:04:35 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And these are the poets of their time.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Garden of Love by William Blake was the one that Truman uses all you says well.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to the Garden of Love and saw what I had never had seen.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:58 [SPEAKER_01]: A chapel was built in the midst where I used to play on the green and the gates of this chapel were shut and foul shout not ripped over the door so I turned to the Garden of Love.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: that so many sweet flowers bore, and I saw it was filled with graves, and tombstones for flowers should be, and priests and black gowns were walking their rounds and binding with briars, my joys, and desires.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You see, very clearly, these poets saw their enemy as God, right?
01:05:18 --> 01:05:22 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a garden of love, there was a happy place, humanity once was happy.
01:05:22 --> 01:05:25 [SPEAKER_01]: but then the church came, and the church told you not to do things.
01:05:26 --> 01:05:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Garden of Love, where someone once was happy, was now full of dead misery.
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You could feel that.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And I could just say, these guys were against the church, and they wrote against it, but I read the poem to you.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You can see how it tickles your brain in a way.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I think personally, lasts a lot longer.
01:05:43 --> 01:05:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Another example is Puritans.
01:05:44 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: When people picture the Puritans, they often, if I say cotton may there, if they have any familiarity with them, they picture a studgy mean guy, was chasing down witches and was just an angry unhappy guy.
01:05:56 --> 01:06:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't room picture as the man who sat down next to pirates on death row and preach the gospel to them.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:03 [SPEAKER_01]: There are pirates in heaven because we caught him either.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We've covered that on our show.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an amazing sermon that he gave to people on death row.
01:06:08 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: His heart for them, he literally would say judge don't kill them yet.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They need to hear the gospel a couple more days longer.
01:06:13 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the cotton may there we think of, because we're not actually thinking of cotton may there.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We're thinking of Nathaniel Hawthorne's book, Scarlet Letter, which many people will say.
01:06:23 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the way Puritans were.
01:06:25 --> 01:06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They were all secret sinners, and that the Scarlet Letter, if you remember this book from high school, she wore the big A on her chest, but she actually could be the most free of all, while all the Puritans people were evil and had their secret sins, right?
01:06:36 --> 01:06:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not, there's no evidence that that's how the Puritan world actually was.
01:06:41 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That's Nathaniel Hawthorne's vision.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the romantic poet's vision of the Puritan world.
01:06:46 --> 01:06:47 [SPEAKER_01]: They did not like the Puritan world.
01:06:47 --> 01:06:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They saw their joys and desires being wrapped by the briars.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what the Puritan world was actually like.
01:06:55 --> 01:06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: The Puritans had many, yes, they were very staugy on rules sometimes.
01:06:58 --> 01:06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But they also had much joy.
01:07:00 --> 01:07:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They could be very pleasant.
01:07:00 --> 01:07:03 [SPEAKER_01]: People and they had a great love for God.
01:07:03 --> 01:07:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Why do we see often times if you ask the average person if they know anything about Puritans, they'll say they're legalist hypocrites.
01:07:08 --> 01:07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do they get that from?
01:07:10 --> 01:07:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's from Nathaniel Hawthorne is certainly not from reading Puritian Books.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Our image of them has been forever changed by an author of a book who lived over 100 years after them.
01:07:22 --> 01:07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: on New York Times reporter was speaking with somebody, this is a very recent, I wish I could play the video, but I'm not super good at audio, but he played this is a video that came out just a couple weeks ago, and New York Times reporter asked somebody and said, as modern, it was interviewing somebody, and this guy Ryan Holliday says, as modern progresses, not going to church, we have to do more to inculculate moral lessons and our kids.
01:07:42 --> 01:07:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, right there, this guy, the only reason you go to church moral lessons, right?
01:07:46 --> 01:07:48 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we go there to meet our savior Jesus Christ.
01:07:49 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_01]: do learn how to live a more life as we read his word because that's what God wants for us, but the point of church is not more or less than us, but okay, progressive guy says, and in this in the New York Times reporter answers, we watch Ted Lasse with our kids and the guy goes, yeah, exactly.
01:08:05 --> 01:08:07 [SPEAKER_01]: where I appreciate their honesty.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Where does this world go to for knowledge?
01:08:11 --> 01:08:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do they go to from world media?
01:08:13 --> 01:08:19 [SPEAKER_01]: The artists of this world, stories and TV shows do so much to influence us.
01:08:20 --> 01:08:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe today, young people are going, I don't watch a lot of TV.
01:08:22 --> 01:08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I watch Netflix sometimes, but I don't.
01:08:24 --> 01:08:25 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't, that's true.
01:08:25 --> 01:08:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You're being influenced by video games.
01:08:26 --> 01:08:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we think video none of that, I like the discord chats.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The time these young people spend online through the influencers and the Instagram videos and TikToks trust me, I talked to them.
01:08:35 --> 01:08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what's influencing them.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:40 [SPEAKER_01]: They're deeply influenced by the media.
01:08:40 --> 01:08:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Today, the media of today, of YouTube channels and stuff may look different than the media did 20 years, 30 years ago when it was direct movies and Hollywood and stuff like that.
01:08:49 --> 01:08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Many of our young people don't watch movies very much anymore.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned a movie in class and almost never have they.
01:08:55 --> 01:09:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember I showed a group of students unbroken and many of them had never even seen any kind of war in a movie before.
01:09:02 --> 01:09:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And they were blown away by it.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, whoa, Warren a movie.
01:09:04 --> 01:09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of cool.
01:09:05 --> 01:09:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, there's a whole genre of movies called War movies, guys.
01:09:08 --> 01:09:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is not uncommon, but yet.
01:09:11 --> 01:09:12 [SPEAKER_01]: There's still being influenced by the media of today.
01:09:12 --> 01:09:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Their media is just different than ours.
01:09:15 --> 01:09:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We're so demanded freedom.
01:09:16 --> 01:09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Quote, it is the idea that I am free when I decide for myself, what concerns me, rather than mean shaped by external influences.
01:09:22 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a standard of freedom.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The obviously goes beyond what has been called negative liberty, where I am free to do what I want without interference by others.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's combatable with my being shaped by society as laws of conformity, self-determining freedom.
01:09:32 --> 01:09:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Demand said I break the whole of all such external impositions and decide for myself.
01:09:36 --> 01:09:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to be free.
01:09:39 --> 01:09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: and decide for himself and look inside himself and find what made him happy.
01:09:42 --> 01:09:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The poets grasp this idea through it into their art, their books, and they push it into society, go and do what will make you happy, what makes you feel something.
01:09:54 --> 01:09:58 [SPEAKER_01]: art in life is all about feelings and what makes you happy is the most important thing.
01:09:58 --> 01:10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: One famous poet from the time said, if happiness is the object of morality of all human unions and disseniors and the worthiness of every action is to be estimated by the quantity of pleasurable sensation that calculates, then the connection of the sexes that is for me saying marriages, is so long sacred as long as it contributes to the comfort and is naturally dissolved on its evils are greater than the benefits.
01:10:18 --> 01:10:21 [SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing immoral about the separation.
01:10:22 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a poet and artist now saying you can not marry somebody but doesn't make you happy because the only thing that matters is happiness because what we feel What we find inside of ourselves is all that should drive us forward
01:10:35 --> 01:10:37 [SPEAKER_01]: If a goal is to become happy, then guess who is in the way?
01:10:38 --> 01:10:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Shelley says, the same poet says, religion immorality, as they now stand composed a practical code of misery and servitude.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: The genius of human happiness must hair every leaf from the accursed book of God, and man can read the inscription on his own heart.
01:10:52 --> 01:10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: How would morality dressed up in stiff stays and finery start from her own disgusting image should she look in the mirror of nature?
01:11:00 --> 01:11:02 [SPEAKER_01]: was very clear, Rousseau, the church is in my way.
01:11:02 --> 01:11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The poets, God is keeping you from being happy and we must throw out every leaf of the accursed book.
01:11:10 --> 01:11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you see these people hate it, God, they hated the church specifically, and the Garden of Love, the chapel of standing in the way of your happiness.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:25 [SPEAKER_01]: These people are very clear, they want to change society, they want to change the world, and you,
01:11:26 --> 01:11:34 [SPEAKER_01]: are in the way church and Christian, and as long as you're in the way, they have an enemy that they have to get rid of.
01:11:35 --> 01:11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: The demolition team, right?
01:11:36 --> 01:11:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We, Rousseau, has picked the target.
01:11:39 --> 01:11:42 [SPEAKER_01]: The, maybe the poets here are gathering the supplies.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Haslete called humans a poetical animal and I do think there's some truth that we are deeply affected by art and the art and the world around us.
01:11:51 --> 01:11:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And the next person to show up in this kind of chronology according to Truman is Friedrich Nietzsche.
01:11:57 --> 01:11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche, uh, boy.
01:12:00 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He opens his ideas with a line that's very famous, I think we should all hear.
01:12:04 --> 01:12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I know my fate, quote, here I'm quoting him here.
01:12:07 --> 01:12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: One day, my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous.
01:12:10 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: A crisis without equal on Earth, the most profound collision of conscience.
01:12:14 --> 01:12:17 [SPEAKER_01]: A decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed.
01:12:17 --> 01:12:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Demanded, hallowed so far.
01:12:18 --> 01:12:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I am no man.
01:12:21 --> 01:12:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I am dynamite.
01:12:23 --> 01:12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're literally looking for the demolition of the church, is it perhaps that Nietzsche is the dynamite that those poets find and plant?
01:12:31 --> 01:12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Continuing, yet for all that, there is nothing in me a founder of religion.
01:12:35 --> 01:12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Religions are affairs of the rabble.
01:12:37 --> 01:12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I find a necessary to wash my hands after I come to contact with religious people.
01:12:41 --> 01:12:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I want no believers.
01:12:43 --> 01:12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the point to know here?
01:12:44 --> 01:12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to want people to talk about philosophy, you know, the kid, the young guy, like I said, I remember I was in philosophy class and you know, the person's like, yeah, it doesn't seem to be any universal truth.
01:12:53 --> 01:12:58 [SPEAKER_01]: After reading just a few of these books in the philosopher professor in a university, it wasn't a Bible College of the University.
01:12:58 --> 01:12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, yes, you're right.
01:12:59 --> 01:13:00 [SPEAKER_01]: You've nailed it.
01:13:00 --> 01:13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: There is no universal truth, right?
01:13:02 --> 01:13:07 [SPEAKER_01]: We get scared of these philosophy books understandably, because we've seen that story play out across the world.
01:13:07 --> 01:13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: These thinkers have so often destroyed it, but I'll be honest, I read beyond good and evil by Nietzsche.
01:13:14 --> 01:13:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And I gotta be honest, it is rambling and coherent nonsense.
01:13:17 --> 01:13:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll have a great, you know, a good quote to the people like that I stare into the abyss, but that the abyss not stare back and I mean, it's famous quote by his, if you don't know what I'm saying there.
01:13:24 --> 01:13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the very next line was something like, women are worse than men.
01:13:28 --> 01:13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what?
01:13:29 --> 01:13:35 [SPEAKER_01]: We really pick and choose which of these things, which of these philosophers we want to make seem deep, you know.
01:13:35 --> 01:13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not nearly as deep and undisernable as we make them.
01:13:39 --> 01:13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember so many of my professors were like, oh, it's almost impossible to understand these men.
01:13:44 --> 01:13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really not actually that difficult.
01:13:46 --> 01:13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They hate God, they hate the church, and they want to make humanity.
01:13:49 --> 01:13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Sapping is their pure goal in life, and when you understand, that's 90% of what's driving them.
01:13:54 --> 01:13:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty clear.
01:13:55 --> 01:14:08 [SPEAKER_01]: What their philosophy is also okay to just look at them and say they I think they were just talking nonsense there like it actually didn't mean anything when each of us like yeah women are worse than men I think he was just nonsense talking We take them too seriously and not seriously enough.
01:14:09 --> 01:14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We take their words too serious.
01:14:10 --> 01:14:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They're so deep But we don't take their philosophies in the damage that they've done to society so seriously enough
01:14:16 --> 01:14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We look around the world and go, why is the world so broken?
01:14:19 --> 01:14:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the church being abandoned?
01:14:21 --> 01:14:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But we don't recognize the influence of these books that we're putting into the hands of people all the time.
01:14:26 --> 01:14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Is we're promoting each, is a very popular pop culture.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I come in as a terrible person.
01:14:31 --> 01:14:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll show you all of that in just a moment.
01:14:34 --> 01:14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But we need to be more relaxed now.
01:14:36 --> 01:14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm talking about philosophy and it goes without saying that you have to look at in Nietzsche, it is a parable of the madman.
01:14:43 --> 01:14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: If you've heard this before, do apologize you're gonna hear it again.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it would be impossible to tell the story without mentioning this.
01:14:50 --> 01:15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you haven't heard before, and I find that many Christians are actually oftentimes not aware of this stuff, so you should know it's one of the Nietzsche's most famous stories, parable of the madman.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you not heard of that madman who lit to lantern in the bright, morning hours, rant to the marketplace and cried incessantly, I seek God, I seek God.
01:15:11 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Has he gotten lost as to one?
01:15:17 --> 01:15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Did he lose his way like a child as to another?
01:15:19 --> 01:15:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is he hiding?
01:15:20 --> 01:15:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he afraid of us?
01:15:21 --> 01:15:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Has he gone on a voyage, immigrated?
01:15:23 --> 01:15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Thus say yelled and they laughed and they laughed.
01:15:26 --> 01:15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The man man jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes, with her as God, he cried, I will tell you, we have killed him you and I, all of us are his murders.
01:15:35 --> 01:15:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But how did we do this?
01:15:37 --> 01:15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: How could we drink up the sea?
01:15:39 --> 01:15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon?
01:15:43 --> 01:15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its son?
01:15:46 --> 01:15:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Where is it moving now?
01:15:48 --> 01:15:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Where are we moving?
01:15:49 --> 01:15:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Away from all sons?
01:15:51 --> 01:15:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we not plunging continually?
01:15:52 --> 01:15:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Backward sideward forward in all directions?
01:15:55 --> 01:15:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there still any upper down?
01:15:57 --> 01:16:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we not straining as though through an infinite nothing?
01:16:00 --> 01:16:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we not feel the breath of empty space?
01:16:02 --> 01:16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Has it not become colder?
01:16:04 --> 01:16:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Is not night continually closing in on us?
01:16:07 --> 01:16:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we not need to light the lanterns in the morning?
01:16:09 --> 01:16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we hear nothing as yet the noise of the grave diggers?
01:16:12 --> 01:16:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Who are bearing God?
01:16:13 --> 01:16:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we smell nothing as yet the divine decomposition?
01:16:16 --> 01:16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: God's too decompose.
01:16:19 --> 01:16:19 [SPEAKER_01]: God is dead.
01:16:20 --> 01:16:21 [SPEAKER_01]: God remains dead.
01:16:22 --> 01:16:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have killed him.
01:16:23 --> 01:16:25 [SPEAKER_01]: How shall we comfort ourselves?
01:16:25 --> 01:16:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The murder is of all murderers.
01:16:27 --> 01:16:34 [SPEAKER_01]: What was holiest and miniest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives, who will wipe this blood off us?
01:16:34 --> 01:16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: What water is there for us to clean ourselves?
01:16:37 --> 01:16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent?
01:16:41 --> 01:16:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?
01:16:44 --> 01:16:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
01:16:48 --> 01:16:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There has never been a greater deed, and whoever's born after us for the sake of the steed, he will belong to a higher history than all history from before.
01:16:56 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners, and they too were silent and stared at him in astonishment.
01:17:03 --> 01:17:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Elastie threw his lantern on the ground, broken the pieces and went out.
01:17:08 --> 01:17:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I have come to early, he said, my time is not yet.
01:17:11 --> 01:17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering.
01:17:14 --> 01:17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It is not yet reached the years of men.
01:17:16 --> 01:17:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Lightning and thunder require time, the light of the stars requires time.
01:17:20 --> 01:17:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Deeds though done, still require time to be seen and heard.
01:17:23 --> 01:17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: This deed is still more distant from the most distant stars, and yet they have done it themselves.
01:17:30 --> 01:17:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It has been related further than on the same day, the Madman forced his way into several churches, and their struck up as Requiem, After Nam Dayo.
01:17:37 --> 01:17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Let out and called out to account, he said always to have replied nothing, but what after all are all these churches now, if they are not tombs and supplicers of God.
01:17:47 --> 01:17:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's pretty dark.
01:17:49 --> 01:17:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche, people will argue over the parable of the mad man.
01:17:54 --> 01:17:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We can go in a thousand different directions here.
01:17:58 --> 01:18:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But very clear, in his mind, God is dead.
01:18:02 --> 01:18:04 [SPEAKER_01]: As very clear, the church is having no point.
01:18:05 --> 01:18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That's very clear that he's upset with society because the people aren't believers in God.
01:18:10 --> 01:18:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They're mocking him.
01:18:11 --> 01:18:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They're much like Elijah with the bait of profits of bail.
01:18:13 --> 01:18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think it's intentional.
01:18:17 --> 01:18:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're mocking him.
01:18:18 --> 01:18:19 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't believe in God either.
01:18:19 --> 01:18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But what's different is the man man says we did something too great for us.
01:18:23 --> 01:18:25 [SPEAKER_01]: murders of murderers.
01:18:25 --> 01:18:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we not know what we have done yet?
01:18:28 --> 01:18:29 [SPEAKER_01]: All of history is different.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: You see Europe and the church of the culture at the time had gotten rid of the idea of morality and God.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody was believing in morality and God.
01:18:39 --> 01:18:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet they weren't living worthy of it.
01:18:42 --> 01:18:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't acting as people who'd given up God.
01:18:45 --> 01:18:46 [SPEAKER_01]: They were still attending church.
01:18:46 --> 01:18:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They were still living with some of the moral fabric of a society that believed in God.
01:18:52 --> 01:18:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yet they had killed him already.
01:18:56 --> 01:19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche goes on, one of his quotes, the value of the values themselves must be first called into question.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:04 [SPEAKER_01]: What is the value of having values?
01:19:04 --> 01:19:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Why do we have morals in the first place?
01:19:09 --> 01:19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: What is what have we gained from values, beliefs, and all these things?
01:19:15 --> 01:19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He believed you should pursue arts and satisfaction.
01:19:17 --> 01:19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: He had one unique idea, what if you died?
01:19:19 --> 01:19:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's called the internal recurrence.
01:19:21 --> 01:19:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, what if you die, then after you die, a demon says, you know, hey, I can, you know, curse you to hell, or I can give you a chance to relive all of your memories forever and ever and ever.
01:19:33 --> 01:19:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Starting from when you were a baby all the way to the death day and we're just repeating,
01:19:37 --> 01:19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You must live your life full of experiences.
01:19:40 --> 01:19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, then worth remembering.
01:19:42 --> 01:19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Some of those experiences are genuinely good.
01:19:44 --> 01:19:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It might be better to live a happy life or not.
01:19:47 --> 01:19:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But if life is all, his idea was life is all about experience.
01:19:52 --> 01:19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: If you had to really, what, wouldn't be better to be sent to hell, where at least there would be something different happening sometimes, maybe.
01:19:58 --> 01:20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Then just be in trapped in your dull, dreary lives where you pretended to live by God's rules, even though you did not believe in him.
01:20:08 --> 01:20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: experiences.
01:20:10 --> 01:20:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Some people will live a life so full of experiences that were amazing and beautiful and awesome and powerful and free that for them reliving that life from memory to memory would always be a glory, but too many people have such dull, terrible lives that it would be better for them to go.
01:20:25 --> 01:20:30 [SPEAKER_01]: The eternal recurrence would be the true hell for them.
01:20:30 --> 01:20:36 [SPEAKER_01]: quote from Nietzsche for one thing is necessary that a human being should attain satisfaction within himself.
01:20:36 --> 01:20:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it be by this or that means maybe poetry or art.
01:20:39 --> 01:20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at that, a poetry and art returning, right?
01:20:42 --> 01:20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: A constant theme.
01:20:43 --> 01:20:47 [SPEAKER_01]: How will people find the things that make them happy through poetries and art?
01:20:47 --> 01:20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It is the way we move and shift society after all.
01:20:51 --> 01:20:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche today is a beloved philosopher.
01:20:53 --> 01:20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:20:54 --> 01:21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You can see how he's building our research, so look inside of yourself, now nature's saying experience things and put those feelings inside of yourself, once you know what you like, go do those things you like forever, so you can enjoy the eternal recurrence, right?
01:21:09 --> 01:21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's also important to note, something Nietzsche is not remembered for today, and he quotes of his or everywhere.
01:21:15 --> 01:21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He's also a giant egenicist, all right?
01:21:18 --> 01:21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me know.
01:21:18 --> 01:21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He hated people, let me read a few quotes of his.
01:21:21 --> 01:21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The racial cleansing, there are probably not pure, but only become pure breeds, and then this great rarity.
01:21:26 --> 01:21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The purity is the final result of countless adaptations and simulations and excretions.
01:21:31 --> 01:21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Finally, however, when the process of purification is achieved, the whole organism has as a disposal of all the power, absent before in the struggle of discordant properties.
01:21:38 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why become pure breads are always become stronger and more beautiful, which, by the way, is not how breeding works.
01:21:45 --> 01:21:52 [SPEAKER_01]: However, the Greeks give us the pattern of what a pure race and culture has become, and hopefully succeed once a pure European race and culture.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Another quote from him, the race has degenerated.
01:21:54 --> 01:21:57 [SPEAKER_01]: First social and moral, we must amputate the sick members.
01:21:57 --> 01:21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so what do you mean by amputating the sick members of the race?
01:22:00 --> 01:22:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you continue.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The extinction of many species of men is as desirable as reproduction.
01:22:08 --> 01:22:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Week and degenerate are dying breeds.
01:22:11 --> 01:22:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And another quote, death to the week.
01:22:14 --> 01:22:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So Nietzsche is pretty clearly not a good guy.
01:22:17 --> 01:22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, and there's a reason why his ideas became the center of not see thinking.
01:22:22 --> 01:22:25 [SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to create the Superman, which Nietzsche believed was possible.
01:22:25 --> 01:22:27 [SPEAKER_01]: A man truly experienced a great man.
01:22:27 --> 01:22:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like Rousseau, Rousseau, one of the primitive man to return and find happiness.
01:22:31 --> 01:22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche aimed for the Superman, the perfect man.
01:22:34 --> 01:22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The man that was better than the rest of us would attain to a higher experience.
01:22:38 --> 01:22:40 [SPEAKER_01]: A truly shed all things.
01:22:40 --> 01:22:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And the only way to do that was to get rid of the week was to wipe out the lower orders and you can see why where Nazi thinking would build off of this idea, can you not?
01:22:49 --> 01:22:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The eugenicists were not good and neither were Nietzsche and Nietzsche was beloved by the Nazis.
01:22:55 --> 01:22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But did he dislike anybody?
01:22:57 --> 01:23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Rousseau, like the poets did Nietzsche have an enemy as he did.
01:23:01 --> 01:23:07 [SPEAKER_01]: An unpublished notes released after he died while working on a title called Anti-Christ.
01:23:07 --> 01:23:23 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, quote, what about all the concepts must be condemned as the ambivalent and cowardly deficiency of Christianity as a religion more clearly the church that instead of encouraging the death and annihilation, it protects the degenerate and sick and even promotes their breeding.
01:23:23 --> 01:23:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is standing in the way of us creating this perfect society and getting rid of all these weak, worthless races and sick people?
01:23:31 --> 01:23:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Is the church?
01:23:32 --> 01:23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Christians are in his way, another quote from him.
01:23:35 --> 01:23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The real love to men demand sacrifice for the good of the species.
01:23:38 --> 01:23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It is hard, a full of self-improvement.
01:23:41 --> 01:23:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It requires the sacrifice of men, pseudo-humanity called Christianity just wants nobody to be sacrificed.
01:23:47 --> 01:23:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Amen, Echa.
01:23:48 --> 01:23:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Amen.
01:23:49 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that an enemy of the church.
01:23:51 --> 01:23:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And an enemy of good looked at the enemy looked at the people around him and said it's the church's fault.
01:23:56 --> 01:24:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They're letting people Sick people and and mentally and a handy cat people and all they let them exist and live and even these lower races breed.
01:24:06 --> 01:24:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we do we want people to have families be fruitful and multiply.
01:24:10 --> 01:24:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We want
01:24:12 --> 01:24:14 [SPEAKER_01]: sick people to be loved and cared for.
01:24:14 --> 01:24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: What a great compliment that this enemy of God looked around him and saw the church as his enemy.
01:24:20 --> 01:24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful.
01:24:21 --> 01:24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
01:24:22 --> 01:24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
01:24:22 --> 01:24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the greatest compliments you could give us is that we were the problem and your creepy weird future society.
01:24:29 --> 01:24:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche died, and despite many modern reinterpretations, he likely died of syphilist, which it caused insanity.
01:24:35 --> 01:24:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And syphilist is a transmitted disease that was probably transmitted to him as he lived his more or less anti-God life.
01:24:41 --> 01:24:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Now some medical historian people have tried to rewrite that it wasn't syphilist that caused him to go insane.
01:24:47 --> 01:24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: One day, a horse writer was going to kill a horse when he ran out and hugged the horse and screamed, leaving it alone, leaving it alone.
01:24:53 --> 01:24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Nietzsche had gone completely crazy.
01:24:55 --> 01:25:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, by the way, I read a whole medical article on somebody who was a medical person who was basically like, yes, it's pretty obvious he died as syphilis, let me explain how, um, it was really gross and I don't recommend it.
01:25:07 --> 01:25:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say that I'm going to go with the medical guy who, uh, seen Mikey knew what he was talking about and I think that he probably died as syphilis too, um, even though some people have challenged that today.
01:25:16 --> 01:25:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Gross article, I don't recommend going into that further.
01:25:20 --> 01:25:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all righty we are going a bit this is a long episode And I knew it would be if you'll if you'll forgive me, we're gonna go a little bit longer And then there will be a part two.
01:25:30 --> 01:25:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're enjoying this.
01:25:31 --> 01:25:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're learning some stuff I hope you find this kind of thing interesting I hope you can see the real world applications, right of this idea just experience something just experience things go out experience anything I love to say I have some deep quote, but a recent student of mine
01:25:48 --> 01:26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: quoted Zootopia where I guess like the gazelle sings try anything and that's a very popular Disney song that you know if you play it kids know it and I'm not again I try new things I'm not against it of course I try new things to we all do right but and it doesn't I didn't know I like to volleyball until I tried it I didn't know I didn't like acting until I tried it in college so you know we can we can learn a lot about things and who we are and they same time though this pursuit of experience the pursuit
01:26:18 --> 01:26:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That comes from Nietzsche, the idea that our experience is what make us happy.
01:26:24 --> 01:26:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It drives so much of our common society.
01:26:26 --> 01:26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I had to experience the hot new thing, the cool thing, the exciting thing.
01:26:30 --> 01:26:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to miss this experience.
01:26:31 --> 01:26:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So once in a lifetime experience, right?
01:26:33 --> 01:26:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got to do all these things that we have to experience.
01:26:36 --> 01:26:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to experience this before you know, you can't not do this.
01:26:39 --> 01:26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do this constant need for experiences come from?
01:26:42 --> 01:26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it came from the mind of nature.
01:26:43 --> 01:26:47 [SPEAKER_01]: You're life in what matters to you is your experiences.
01:26:47 --> 01:26:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So don't hold back, right?
01:26:49 --> 01:26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And we can even see it in marriage.
01:26:51 --> 01:26:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, many, many people who settle, you can't marry somebody until you've experienced the things that only has been a wife can do, because you know if you guys are combatable and these kinds of things, right?
01:27:00 --> 01:27:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So much of how do you know if you don't like drugs unless you've tried them, right?
01:27:04 --> 01:27:05 [SPEAKER_01]: All these kinds of things.
01:27:06 --> 01:27:09 [SPEAKER_01]: that we see experience, it try things, no things.
01:27:09 --> 01:27:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we deeply respect, oh, I have much experience on that subject.
01:27:13 --> 01:27:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I came from a bad background.
01:27:14 --> 01:27:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what do you know, right?
01:27:16 --> 01:27:17 [SPEAKER_01]: We, it's not to say it's bad.
01:27:18 --> 01:27:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Have some respect and understanding for these things.
01:27:20 --> 01:27:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying you shouldn't try things.
01:27:22 --> 01:27:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But are we being motivated by a guy to scripture?
01:27:24 --> 01:27:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Is scripture telling us to go experience all these new experiences all the time and go to go try all these new things all the time?
01:27:31 --> 01:27:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You can say yes, God created a world full of joy and pleasant things when going to the glory of God, grateful for God's blessings, enjoy those fruits and blessings.
01:27:39 --> 01:27:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But make sure that you are being driven by God and not by a Godless philosopher and a Nietzsche who also told you to go experience everything to find yourself because those are different things.
01:27:53 --> 01:27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: If we use Truman's next standard, the next philosopher to tackle would be Karl Marx.
01:27:57 --> 01:27:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that Karl Marx will be the man we end on here.
01:28:00 --> 01:28:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you may be saying, OK, you don't have to tell me about communism.
01:28:03 --> 01:28:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I know communism is bad.
01:28:04 --> 01:28:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're saying, I hope nobody goes, what's wrong with communism?
01:28:06 --> 01:28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this audience is a kind of be a pro-communist.
01:28:10 --> 01:28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But Karl Marx, yes, he wrote the communist manifesto.
01:28:14 --> 01:28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's a fascinating, horrible person.
01:28:16 --> 01:28:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Many people point out that for a man who
01:28:19 --> 01:28:23 [SPEAKER_01]: said that he was going to, you know, he, he loved blue collar workers, right?
01:28:23 --> 01:28:25 [SPEAKER_01]: All the, the factory workers are going to eat night and over the other world.
01:28:25 --> 01:28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But he never held a job, which means he never actually worked alongside them.
01:28:30 --> 01:28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be like if I constantly said, you know, who will save the world plumbers?
01:28:33 --> 01:28:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know any, and I've never worked as a plumber.
01:28:35 --> 01:28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: You grow so I'm never going to do such a lame job.
01:28:38 --> 01:28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think plumbers will save the world, right?
01:28:40 --> 01:28:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, hmm, that's kind of, you know, a bit of a leadism going on there.
01:28:44 --> 01:28:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But then isn't that the way it often is?
01:28:46 --> 01:28:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He also, for infamously, led his family into financial crisis, at the financial crisis, moached off the rich people, rich people kept him alive, while he constantly told them how awful they were.
01:28:56 --> 01:29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And he, at probably, at least as possible, he, fathered an illegitimate child.
01:29:02 --> 01:29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: There is made, no one knows for sure, some people absolutely not didn't happen.
01:29:06 --> 01:29:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Other people, no, definitely happened.
01:29:08 --> 01:29:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He also never shoured, which is, if I knew nothing else about him, that would be enough for me to say gross.
01:29:15 --> 01:29:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But despite all his economic theories, yes, the rise of communism, there was something more central to the world we live in today that he put into our mind.
01:29:24 --> 01:29:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The mind, the permanent revolution.
01:29:27 --> 01:29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It a lot of interesting quotes.
01:29:28 --> 01:29:30 [SPEAKER_01]: One is, the less skill and exertion of strength.
01:29:30 --> 01:29:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, I say this is somebody read the communist manifesto when I was younger, so I, and that wasn't like an interested in communism kind of guy, but I wouldn't understand the way the world operated.
01:29:39 --> 01:29:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I read some of the writings of Buddha, I read Confucius, read something from Taoism.
01:29:42 --> 01:29:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like it was I read the age of reason Thomas Payne's attack on Christianity, and I also read the Communist manifesto.
01:29:48 --> 01:29:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to understand the way the world, why do we have the world we have, and how do these great thinkers think, and where are they as great as they, people say they were.
01:29:55 --> 01:30:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And I found absolutely all of them came up empty as no comparing any human writing to the word of God.
01:30:02 --> 01:30:11 [SPEAKER_01]: John then slipped one set of thousand pages of Greek philosophy isn't worth one line of scripture because scripture lasts forever, and the philosophy will one day burn.
01:30:11 --> 01:30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: can say, confidently that Jonathan Swift was 100% correct.
01:30:16 --> 01:30:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, but the idea here, here's a quote, the less skill and exertion of strength implied in manual labor.
01:30:22 --> 01:30:24 [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, the modern industry becomes developed.
01:30:24 --> 01:30:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The more is the labor of men superseded by that of women.
01:30:27 --> 01:30:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Differences of age and sex have no longer any distinctive social validity for the working class, all are instruments of labor, more or less expensive to use according to their age and their sex.
01:30:38 --> 01:30:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And look at that, one of the earliest ideas here, one of the earliest ideas that Marks puts forward, and we see that the countries that went under Marks and some really applied it, and I lived in China, women in China, expected to work.
01:30:50 --> 01:30:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's no idea of a homemaker, woman, really.
01:30:53 --> 01:31:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Russia, they were famous for throwing their women right onto the battlefield, right next to their men, and the women in men are the same.
01:31:00 --> 01:31:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So why wouldn't the Soviets put the women right to work to get shot at just like the men?
01:31:06 --> 01:31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But you can you focus on the gender quote and we see that in society true and we see that is right, manual labor has become less important though.
01:31:14 --> 01:31:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to, you know, if I can have a firefighter preference, I prefer the six foot four guy, rescue me out of the flaming building over the five foot two girl, if I can if I can put it, you know, if I can make that combination.
01:31:28 --> 01:31:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's something else in here, all of us are instruments of labor.
01:31:31 --> 01:31:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You are a cog.
01:31:33 --> 01:31:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You are a piece of, you're just a tool for making economic value.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all you matter for.
01:31:39 --> 01:31:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you can very easily hear that and go, ah, that's not true though.
01:31:42 --> 01:31:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I have more value than that, but do you, and I tell my students this way, and I don't try to be mean to them, but they take AB exams, they stress, they sweat over AB exams, I go, why do you stress and sweat over that so much, right?
01:31:52 --> 01:31:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we got a good grade, why do you need a good grade on the AB exam?
01:31:56 --> 01:31:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because I can go to a good college, why do you need to go to a college?
01:31:59 --> 01:32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, they can do the right degree and get a good job.
01:32:03 --> 01:32:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I can be happy, and then I could have money, and then everything is about getting your job.
01:32:07 --> 01:32:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
01:32:08 --> 01:32:15 [SPEAKER_01]: because our entire system is oriented towards you, you matter because of the value, the work you output.
01:32:16 --> 01:32:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Your good job is everything.
01:32:17 --> 01:32:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So that AP exam really matters, because it might help you get to a good job, and that is really all that matters.
01:32:23 --> 01:32:24 [SPEAKER_01]: What you do is who you are.
01:32:24 --> 01:32:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, we were put, I'm not against the idea that you were put on work on earth to work, work is good.
01:32:31 --> 01:32:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously communism is usually against the work on some level.
01:32:35 --> 01:32:41 [SPEAKER_01]: But ironically, the same people who, you know, the lazy Communists is a stereotype for a reason that Mark's was one after all.
01:32:41 --> 01:32:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But ironically, the very people who are against working, believe that you're only value is in what you create.
01:32:49 --> 01:32:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Likewise, we Christians believe working is good, but you have an inherent value because you're a main theme of God, and who you are.
01:32:59 --> 01:33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the big difference.
01:33:01 --> 01:33:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Work is good.
01:33:02 --> 01:33:04 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a teacher, teach the glory of God.
01:33:04 --> 01:33:06 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a lawyer, do the law to the glory of God.
01:33:06 --> 01:33:12 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a doctor and to the glory of God, ethically and correctly as the Bible would prescribe for Jesus's sake.
01:33:12 --> 01:33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But you are so much more than your position, your job, your role, your title.
01:33:16 --> 01:33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We did not make these distinctions we heard brothers and sisters in Christ.
01:33:20 --> 01:33:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas Marx tells you what matters most about you is what you create.
01:33:25 --> 01:33:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You're a value, you're a cog, you're an instrument of labor.
01:33:29 --> 01:33:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all you are.
01:33:32 --> 01:33:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Marxley, the revolution, and the work he was doing would lead to a great equalizing utopia.
01:33:36 --> 01:33:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Nietzsche, he believes someday would all be better or so, who wanted us to return to our primitive states, Marx pushed us toward the ends of days, too.
01:33:43 --> 01:33:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted the print of a state, created through technology.
01:33:46 --> 01:33:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And Marxist was put on this.
01:33:47 --> 01:33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone would go and become like the chairman, Marxist of China, where they believed everyone should return to the farms,
01:33:54 --> 01:33:57 [SPEAKER_01]: They literally forced everyone into the farms and it was terrible.
01:33:57 --> 01:34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They would take people from the cities and put them on farms and be like, go back to farming, you were better as a farmer, literally living out the Rousseauian idea, and Cambodia, they took everyone out of the capital of Penon Pen, and they pushed them out into, and they killed millions of people.
01:34:12 --> 01:34:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If you wore glasses, they killed you because that's sophistication, that's Western ideas.
01:34:16 --> 01:34:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to get back on the farms.
01:34:19 --> 01:34:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But then there was the other side of the Marxist.
01:34:21 --> 01:34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The ones that let's use every lever of technology to equalize everything.
01:34:25 --> 01:34:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And we will create it utopia through technology.
01:34:28 --> 01:34:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We, in the West, are affected by the farmer utopians true, but we're much more affected by the Marxist ideas of technology equalizes and makes everything better.
01:34:38 --> 01:34:39 [SPEAKER_01]: What do we hear about AI all day?
01:34:39 --> 01:34:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, everything will be obsolete.
01:34:41 --> 01:34:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, we'll never need to work again.
01:34:43 --> 01:34:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Last night, all that different than what they were saying 150 years ago.
01:34:47 --> 01:34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: As at most, though some day, the factory workers, everything will be equal, it's the same story, 150 years repackaged and sold under a different name, but it's the same idea.
01:34:58 --> 01:35:00 [SPEAKER_01]: From the moment came, the permanent revolution.
01:35:00 --> 01:35:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Permanent revolution isn't of itself.
01:35:02 --> 01:35:04 [SPEAKER_01]: A paradoxical idea is oxymoron.
01:35:04 --> 01:35:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Revolution means constant turning, constant change, upheaval, right?
01:35:08 --> 01:35:11 [SPEAKER_01]: A revolution of a wheel is constantly spinning, so how can it permanently be doing that?
01:35:12 --> 01:35:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Because by permanence, it should be still unstable.
01:35:14 --> 01:35:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the only stable thing.
01:35:16 --> 01:35:21 [SPEAKER_01]: A central fact of Marx's beliefs was the only stability will be the constant change.
01:35:21 --> 01:35:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Quote, the term permanent permanent revolution is Marx's term.
01:35:25 --> 01:35:27 [SPEAKER_01]: This is from a Bolshevik that took over Russia.
01:35:28 --> 01:35:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Translated precisely.
01:35:29 --> 01:35:32 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, if you want to, you want to have a fun time read Bolshevik writings.
01:35:32 --> 01:35:34 [SPEAKER_01]: They're so mad at each other arguing over their precise.
01:35:35 --> 01:35:39 [SPEAKER_01]: They make, in my opinion, the arguments of theology
01:35:39 --> 01:35:49 [SPEAKER_01]: look like a very generous and kind right Martin Luther and Calvin and those guys are much more generous and kind of their theological debates in these Marxists are over their Bolshevism.
01:35:49 --> 01:35:54 [SPEAKER_01]: My goodness gracious these guys can get it or is bad as any as any of them
01:35:54 --> 01:36:00 [SPEAKER_01]: The term permanent revolution, as Marxist term, translated precisely, permanent revolution means constant, unceasing revolution.
01:36:00 --> 01:36:02 [SPEAKER_01]: What political ideas contained in these words?
01:36:03 --> 01:36:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The idea that for us, for communists, the revolution does not come to an end after one of the political gains has been achieved.
01:36:08 --> 01:36:12 [SPEAKER_01]: But developers further, and for us, the limits for it are establishment of the socialist society.
01:36:12 --> 01:36:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And the continuing this thought, they said, quote, that it's kind of off from the same paper on what it is, constantly, consequently, the idea of permanent revolution, completely and holy coincides with the fundamental strategic policy of Bolshevism.
01:36:25 --> 01:36:34 [SPEAKER_01]: What then did Marks understand by the theory of the uninterrupted revolution by uninterrupted revolution Marks can see the prospect of the revolution taking a course in which the relation of forces continuously changes.
01:36:35 --> 01:36:40 [SPEAKER_01]: The revolution in all the time develops in a sending line, a chart, a translator, the landlords will be overthrown.
01:36:40 --> 01:36:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Their place is taken by the bourgeoisie.
01:36:42 --> 01:36:43 [SPEAKER_01]: the liberal bourgeoisie.
01:36:43 --> 01:36:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So they will often be.
01:36:44 --> 01:36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: The revolution does not end, they must be overthown.
01:36:47 --> 01:36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the radical petty bourgeoisie take over.
01:36:49 --> 01:36:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Then the radical petty bourgeoisie is overthown.
01:36:52 --> 01:36:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And his place is taken by the poor class of society, and the special meaning of the term in alliance of the poor peasantry.
01:36:57 --> 01:37:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Finally, even the government will be departed, no-rethoned, and the give the place of the government of the working class.
01:37:01 --> 01:37:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, this is just a chart, a timeline, a process, but the chart will be a correct one.
01:37:05 --> 01:37:08 [SPEAKER_01]: What then is the essence of the theory of the permanent revolution?
01:37:08 --> 01:37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: The essence of the Marxian that is a correct theory of permanent revolution is that constant changes is the social content of the revolution is taken account.
01:37:16 --> 01:37:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And calling you, they are a word, you aren't they?
01:37:18 --> 01:37:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It reflects the fact that in progress of the revolution, the relation between the conflicting classes, constantly changes, and the revolution develops and constantly marches from one station, this is the meaning of the theory of the permanent revolution.
01:37:29 --> 01:37:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we object to such a theory?
01:37:30 --> 01:37:31 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it is correct.
01:37:32 --> 01:37:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I do apologize for their very long quotes here, but the permanent revolution is one more.
01:37:38 --> 01:37:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It means that mankind never rests, it never ceases.
01:37:40 --> 01:37:42 [SPEAKER_01]: There must always be agitation and movement in some direction.
01:37:42 --> 01:37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a utopia and everything counts on this revolution being achieved.
01:37:47 --> 01:37:50 [SPEAKER_01]: We are going to be constantly under the revolution.
01:37:50 --> 01:37:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We must constantly, this is me now, that we constantly bringing this utopia together.
01:37:55 --> 01:37:56 [SPEAKER_01]: What are we revolting against?
01:37:56 --> 01:38:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever the power structure is at the time, the power structure is always bad.
01:38:00 --> 01:38:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we must result.
01:38:01 --> 01:38:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And whoever takes power, we then revolve against, right?
01:38:04 --> 01:38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And the power structure always represents what's old.
01:38:08 --> 01:38:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And the utopia is what's new.
01:38:10 --> 01:38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's what's coming.
01:38:11 --> 01:38:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He saw it.
01:38:11 --> 01:38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They compared themselves to a train.
01:38:13 --> 01:38:15 [SPEAKER_01]: The train is always going down the track.
01:38:15 --> 01:38:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Every revolution of the wheel pushes you a little further.
01:38:18 --> 01:38:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Society is either moving down the track or you are a cog in the way of the machine that will eventually be destroyed every single person Every single person aspect of life is a part of this.
01:38:28 --> 01:38:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You are a part of it.
01:38:29 --> 01:38:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether you realize it or not all a society is doing this You're either for the revolution moving us towards the utopia or you are just one of the cogs that is in the way new
01:38:41 --> 01:38:46 [SPEAKER_01]: ideas, new power structures, new things are good, old is bad.
01:38:46 --> 01:38:51 [SPEAKER_01]: We must tear down that which is old, and we must get rid of it because it is old.
01:38:51 --> 01:38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The revolution, the upheaval, all of this is good.
01:38:54 --> 01:39:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The permanent revolution must constantly find a new target, because the very actions of tearing and destroying things isn't in it's self-good.
01:39:04 --> 01:39:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, who's the obvious one that will stand in the way I such a movement you already know?
01:39:09 --> 01:39:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Religion is a sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of the soul of this condition is the opium of the people.
01:39:16 --> 01:39:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Or I'll mark a set of religion.
01:39:17 --> 01:39:23 [SPEAKER_01]: The abolition of religion is the, as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness.
01:39:24 --> 01:39:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The social principles of Christianity preach cowardice, self-contempt, abacement, submission, humility.
01:39:29 --> 01:39:36 [SPEAKER_01]: The criticism of religion to solutions man so that he will think act in fashion, his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions.
01:39:36 --> 01:39:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And more and more, religion is an illusion.
01:39:39 --> 01:39:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It makes you happy when you're not really happy.
01:39:41 --> 01:39:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It keeps you under the powerful old structure and the permanent revolution these to upheave this, throw this out, defeat it.
01:39:49 --> 01:39:52 [SPEAKER_01]: There's an interesting and true story, Friedrich Engels.
01:39:52 --> 01:39:54 [SPEAKER_01]: They miss co-writer, the Communist manifesto.
01:39:54 --> 01:39:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We all know Karl Marx's name, but Friedrich Engels was right there.
01:39:57 --> 01:39:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He once had a list of what he liked and disliked.
01:39:59 --> 01:40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And on the disliked list, he only had a one name,
01:40:07 --> 01:40:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like an urban legend, like somebody said this can't be true, but their research is true.
01:40:11 --> 01:40:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Why would Frederick Engels have only one person he dislike?
01:40:16 --> 01:40:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a practice preacher, you may say, well, you mean you didn't like Christianity?
01:40:21 --> 01:40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but think about this.
01:40:22 --> 01:40:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Charles Spurgeon ran a noise footage.
01:40:25 --> 01:40:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, a lot of children were taking care of.
01:40:27 --> 01:40:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He was very generous.
01:40:29 --> 01:40:30 [SPEAKER_01]: His church took care of a lot of people.
01:40:32 --> 01:40:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what made him a threat.
01:40:36 --> 01:40:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Christianity, like Nietzsche at the same before, is keeping these poor sad people happy.
01:40:41 --> 01:41:00 [SPEAKER_01]: His orphanages, taking care of the Christians like George Miller, taking care of these poor orphans, and they're preaching hope, they're preaching Christianity, and they're effectively keeping the working class content with an illusory, religious, happiness, a communist, very, clearly see the Marxist, very see, Christianity's the enemy.
01:41:00 --> 01:41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: we have to get rid of them.
01:41:01 --> 01:41:08 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why English will say the one enemy I have is not John D. Rockefeller and all his millions and billions in America.
01:41:09 --> 01:41:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the great business tycoons.
01:41:11 --> 01:41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the Dutch East India trading company or something like that.
01:41:15 --> 01:41:16 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, not the big.
01:41:16 --> 01:41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: You think that the Marxist, the one group they would hate would be all these big businessmen right now.
01:41:22 --> 01:41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Their enemy is Spurgeon.
01:41:24 --> 01:41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: because if it weren't for the church, they could overthrow.
01:41:27 --> 01:41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did communism do so much better in places without good Christian churches?
01:41:32 --> 01:41:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Because the church is at the allusory happiness, or maybe it's because Christ preaches that there's something greater than this life.
01:41:40 --> 01:41:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And that your work actually has value, and you aren't a cog in a machine, like Mark said, that's why the church lists up the poor, tastes care of orphans.
01:41:51 --> 01:41:54 [SPEAKER_01]: and actually builds people up, people become richer and more happy.
01:41:54 --> 01:42:03 [SPEAKER_01]: While they walk with the Lord, they give up their vices, and they start businesses, and the world is a better place for their work, but not when your philosophy is anti-work in the first place.
01:42:04 --> 01:42:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And the church teaches you to value what is old, not tear it down, no permanent revolution.
01:42:12 --> 01:42:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's faithfulness and preaching, it's running the orphanage made on the obvious target when people want to agitate against the old, whereas the church makes you appreciate where you come from.
01:42:21 --> 01:42:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Christianity is always been the enemy of Communism, and likewise Christianity will always be the enemy of those who tear down the old, because nothing is older and sure than our Savior Jesus.
01:42:31 --> 01:42:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, this story is Joseph Stalin originally wanted, you know, they have a better example of communism than Joseph Stalin.
01:42:37 --> 01:42:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, in 1884, he was actually enrolled in the seminary on a scholarship.
01:42:40 --> 01:42:44 [SPEAKER_01]: We always talk about it all the way to Hitler and how he was going to go to art school.
01:42:44 --> 01:42:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But we know what he talks about the fact that Joseph Stalin was going to become a seminarian.
01:42:48 --> 01:42:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He was supposed to become a Christian pastor somewhere.
01:42:51 --> 01:42:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But he got caught up in the philosophies of his time and went with the communists instead.
01:42:58 --> 01:43:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And according to his own daughter, when he died, he lifted up his hand, shook his fist at God, like, as if he was cursing something to the sky and then fell over dead.
01:43:09 --> 01:43:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was laying his bed and he was dead, right?
01:43:11 --> 01:43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: As his daughter said that, she would know he was there after all, or at least knew the story.
01:43:16 --> 01:43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: She believed he was fighting God to the end, and that he was raising his fist just one more time at God.
01:43:22 --> 01:43:28 [SPEAKER_01]: If it's true, I don't know, but it certainly is a good picture, isn't it of what these guys stand for?
01:43:28 --> 01:43:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to Google something pretty sad, you can see there's some beautiful old Russia used to be this, you know, old Eastern Orthodox Bastion, you can see videos from the early 1900s when the communists took over and destroyed these beautiful old churches.
01:43:43 --> 01:43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did they destroy their old churches?
01:43:44 --> 01:43:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because old bad We have to It's the only way
01:43:53 --> 01:43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So just to summarize here.
01:43:54 --> 01:43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Russo, look inside yourself for truth.
01:43:57 --> 01:43:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need anything on the outside.
01:43:59 --> 01:44:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Take off your mask and find yourself.
01:44:00 --> 01:44:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Be the you that you were good to you as Stephen Ferdig put it.
01:44:04 --> 01:44:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Nietzsche, God of morality, or dead.
01:44:07 --> 01:44:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Karl Marx, you're just a cog and a permanent revolution.
01:44:10 --> 01:44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You're either destroying the old or you're in the way, but either way it's coming.
01:44:13 --> 01:44:24 [SPEAKER_01]: All of these men believe you need to push for young people and all of them are pushing for a utopia that will come someday once humanity has gotten rid of their number one enemy, the church.
01:44:24 --> 01:44:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And how do we hear about these men?
01:44:26 --> 01:44:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't read their books most of us don't, but poets and artists and musicians and media bring them to us while bringing us feelings and changing our thoughts.
01:44:36 --> 01:44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we will in part one here of these philosophies and ideas that destroyed the church and the West, where the Roman Empire failed.
01:44:44 --> 01:44:45 [SPEAKER_01]: These guys succeeded.
01:44:45 --> 01:44:57 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to take an each of the future, he might not agree with everything he saw, but he would certainly say that we had become an experienced space culture, and we would certainly agree that the world was acting now like God was dead.
01:44:59 --> 01:45:05 [SPEAKER_01]: If we brought Marx to the future, he might not agree with everything the Russians and the Chinese did with under his name of communism.
01:45:05 --> 01:45:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But he certainly would see a world that overthrew the old and brought in the new and was currently, do you feel unstable?
01:45:11 --> 01:45:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you walk through life always feeling like the world is falling apart?
01:45:15 --> 01:45:16 [SPEAKER_01]: The constant revolutions.
01:45:16 --> 01:45:17 [SPEAKER_01]: The constant uneasiness.
01:45:18 --> 01:45:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That is intentional.
01:45:20 --> 01:45:22 [SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to feel off balance.
01:45:22 --> 01:45:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to feel like there's no hope.
01:45:24 --> 01:45:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to feel like everything's falling apart.
01:45:26 --> 01:45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the feeling they create in you so that you will lean into the permanent revolution.
01:45:31 --> 01:45:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And Marx would say, we'd go, John, we did it.
01:45:33 --> 01:45:35 [SPEAKER_01]: We've at least started the process.
01:45:36 --> 01:45:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You might be sad there aren't more farmers, but other than that, or I don't know.
01:45:40 --> 01:45:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, he would look at the relationship between men and women in the second job and we're so would look around and see a culture screaming, be yourself, look inside you for happiness and he would go, wow, yeah, no, we definitely took my ideas and ran with it.
01:45:52 --> 01:45:56 [SPEAKER_01]: The poets would see a world that is driven by media driven by art.
01:45:56 --> 01:46:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They probably couldn't even begin to fathom, where they would put poems and books and hope that their words inspired you, you're now blasted by music and ideas and philosophy.
01:46:06 --> 01:46:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You can go to the grocery store without hearing music and ideas.
01:46:09 --> 01:46:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They would be amazed at how incredible the power of media has over us now.
01:46:14 --> 01:46:18 [SPEAKER_01]: These men I think would look in the future and go, we succeeded.
01:46:18 --> 01:46:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And they would look at how much the church and her influence and her power is diminished.
01:46:21 --> 01:46:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, I know God is moving.
01:46:23 --> 01:46:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying people in lives aren't being saved.
01:46:26 --> 01:46:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Prisoners are coming to Christ.
01:46:27 --> 01:46:31 [SPEAKER_01]: People are still walking away from suicide because the Lord is brought the yes.
01:46:31 --> 01:46:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not denying what you see in your church.
01:46:33 --> 01:46:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But I am saying, on a societal level, the church is influenced.
01:46:37 --> 01:46:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's greatly diminished, especially in Europe.
01:46:40 --> 01:46:42 [SPEAKER_01]: These men would look at this and say, we did it.
01:46:42 --> 01:46:44 [SPEAKER_01]: The demolition team has planted the dynamite.
01:46:45 --> 01:46:46 [SPEAKER_01]: The wires are being set.
01:46:47 --> 01:46:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe some of the explosions have started to go off.
01:46:50 --> 01:46:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We will look at the men who finished the rest of the job that they started in part two.
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