Henry Grattan Guinness is a man who led multiple revivals and had a massive heart for missions. Often unknown today, he was also related to the famous Guinness family. This sermon of his is extremely relevant for us today. Thank you so much Nick Garland for reading this episode for us. As always, you did great!
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02:59 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just realized at the top of the show, I usually have a bit where I talk about like this sermon was preached by so-and-so in such an area.
03:09 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I just skip that, because I guess I was so excited to talk about real missionaries in real time.
03:13 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to London in the year 1658, to see your sermon by Henry Jesse.
03:19 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I suppose we can bring it back around to Henry Jesse.
03:21 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_02]: On our Q&A episode, we told people, one of the things was like, did you know that every time we read this, we read it fresh every single time?
03:28 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty much.
03:29 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So, there you go.
03:30 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, I mean, I guess they have to know that the changing part is fresh, but the whole thing is, I actually, the reason they're right, it like this the reason I start with the same line, I say it every time I said I just plugging it in, it's because when I worked at Starbucks, whenever somebody pulls up to the drive-thru, they said it's good if you just have like a line that you use every single time.
03:48 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: that kind of like gets you into the mode.
03:50 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So my line at Starbucks, which I did this to annoy my fellow workers at Starbucks, because they were kind of They were into themselves, so I would always go, how do you look at my game at Starbucks?
03:58 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And they hated the howdy, so I did it to annoy them.
04:02 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's, so but it like it resets your mode when I start on a class.
04:06 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I say the same line every time I say, okay, is we're going to pray and they were going to get into the lesson and my one of my students was like, what do you say that every time I'm like, because it's for me more than for you?
04:14 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_02]: But it just it programs you and that's why I say this I'll try and join you listening to everybody There's a difference because it just listeners.
04:21 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's there's something psychological listeners can tell if it's the same sound bit
04:28 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you do it live each time, there are some inflections there.
04:31 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you can hear, this is true in Joel and you're listening to Revive Thoughts.
04:35 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's person out, there's character that comes through and those different line read you each episode.
04:41 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
04:41 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I think for, I think, I mean, a lease is not where this is a Revive Studio's production is one recorded thing.
04:47 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds great.
04:48 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But at least it comes in for that one bit every time.
04:52 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I, there was, and this is so octave, I don't care, uh, there was like actually like a musician guy.
04:57 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_02]: He recently was like one of the big things that's changed from music that he thinks makes it worse is that like everyone uses click tracks.
05:03 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So like when they make music in a studio, they're always perfectly on beat because the click, you know, everything the background is preset for them.
05:11 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_02]: He says, but when you listen to older music from the 70s and 60s and 80s, even like they all sometimes get into the music and they'll speed up or they'll slow down and they'll be ever so slightly off
05:21 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_02]: beat but he's like actually that makes some music more human and it's one of the reasons people really like music from that era and it's one of the reasons people will say like music sounds too produced now one of the big reasons for that is because they're hearing that people are always perfectly in time but real humans shouldn't always be perfectly in time and so that's that's what we do for advice do is we we put a little bit of that
05:44 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: We're just super good production people that that's what all of this was we're so good at that seven years ago We know it's it's not that I just I remember that Starbucks saying how many in the knowing people and it just became a kind of a thing to it But I agree I do think the human element especially as we move towards AI and all that I think shows like hours that are much more We're touching humanity here.
06:04 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like we're much more real.
06:05 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_02]: It may annoy people and they're all people who be like this shows not well Produced enough, but there there are plenty of other people who are like I kind of like it because it's normal.
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06:18 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Here we go, Eric Jensen says, Revive thoughts is an outstanding podcast.
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06:28 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_02]: The men who destroyed the church part one.
06:31 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Eric.
06:31 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I did that one on my own.
06:33 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Joel and I had some major times scheduling things.
06:36 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it has happened.
06:37 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think like once every six months where it's usually me, I don't keep up enough with my schedule.
06:42 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm realized I'm out of town.
06:43 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He's out of town.
06:45 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And we end up not being able to record because Joel travels a lot.
06:47 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't pay enough attention to his schedule until he's right, until he crosses over with mine.
06:52 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And I realized, shoot, I didn't, I didn't play it well.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So I put together what are basically lessons.
06:58 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I give the high schoolers.
07:00 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_02]: polished nice look here but I find it's really helpful and so I'm we had some very nice feedback and I'm very appreciative of everybody listening to them and I hope that you all enjoyed that two-part series on people who went out of their way to attack the church.
07:15 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Schmidt and Wesson asked, what episode of your Calvinist were you on?
07:19 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mentioned in that episode that I was on Keith Foske's show, uh, used to be called coffee with a Calvinist, but I think it changed it.
07:25 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, um, yeah, I was on two different episodes with Keith.
07:30 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_02]: One was talking about Revire Thoughts directly, and then one was talking about the French Revolution.
07:33 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's called like when an atheist cult took over a France or something like that.
07:36 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So go listen and enjoy Keith Foske is great.
07:39 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He's read multiple servants for us on Revire Thoughts.
07:41 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_02]: So we like him a lot here.
07:43 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And Katie Johnson, who runs the Brain Millennial Instagram page, it's quite large.
07:49 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for this.
07:49 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_02]: This is referring to that same episode about the people ruining the church.
07:52 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for this.
07:53 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good to hear what this ideology and our world has come from.
07:55 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Understanding can help us battle it with the word of God.
07:58 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You are welcome, Katie.
07:59 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys have really motivated me.
08:01 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I had mentioned on the episodes that I might make another series.
08:04 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Some day called Horrible Humans, where we just talk about people who went out of their way to attack the church.
08:13 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_02]: This is something people need and want, and it could be really helpful.
08:16 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So I am putting that in the future, but we have something else coming even sooner, so I'm not gonna get in the way of what's about to come.
08:24 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a little teaser there, yeah.
08:26 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
08:26 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a busy time around here, in a good way.
08:28 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a cool thing's happening.
08:30 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like we were in standby mode for a couple of years still, and then suddenly like all at once, everything is coming out all the same time.
08:35 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:37 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Henry Jesse.
08:38 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Henry Jesse is new to me, is he new to you?
08:42 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Henry Jett, I mean, you're joking, right, everyone's the men and I'm like, I do the same way in this version, right, it's true.
08:50 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It's because I've never heard of my knee for some of the guys on the show.
08:54 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe I'm just super uneducated, but I mean, I went to seminary.
08:57 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I took the church history class.
08:58 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I never heard of Henry Jett.
08:59 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I, he's a super interesting, fascinating guy.
09:02 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I like his story.
09:03 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I like to do a deeper, like look into his life.
09:07 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_02]: But not, never heard of him.
09:08 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_02]: He was completely brand new to me.
09:10 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I like the idea of a Baptist coming out of this era of England.
09:16 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to know more about that.
09:18 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that's fascinating.
09:19 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dynamic there.
09:20 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Born in the year six.
09:22 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
09:22 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
09:22 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's going to say.
09:23 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is maybe a spoiler for the episode.
09:26 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_02]: But he took over the church that the Puritans left the Pilgrims left for the new world on.
09:32 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And like so that very Puritan very not Baptist church.
09:37 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_02]: about 15 years later, he's the pastor who takes it over and will become like one of the early as back to us.
09:42 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_02]: So like this is how close that crossover is like he's within the lifetime of the period of Puritans and pilgrims there is in the Puritan era, but he's like one of the beginning founding you know members of also Baptist.
09:55 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like as is interesting how interconnected these worlds were.
09:59 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, 1600s and I know where you talk about it a lot in London.
10:03 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Wild time to be alive, wild time to be navigating religions in general, different denominations in general.
10:11 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff comes out of that era, a lot of persecution, a lot of not great things as well.
10:17 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And we just see born in the year 1603.
10:20 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_01]: his father was Angle again again weren't England here so we have this church of England Angle can kind of runs the whole show has the monopoly on the on the religion there for the most part and his father this Angle can pastor was committed to giving his son this the strong education
10:37 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_01]: When Henry was 17, his father sent him off to St. John's college, and this was right in the middle of a period where St. John's was producing many of the future leaders of the Puritan movement, unknowingly.
10:51 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, although they're coming out of this, Richard Sibbs, who we've talked about many times.
10:57 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He was overseeing the college at this time.
10:59 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And many historians, looking at his life and Henry Jesse's life, attribute some significant but indirect influence that Richard Sibs had on Henry Jesse's life.
11:14 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: After he got done there at St. John's College, he went on to study at Cambridge.
11:20 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But not long after arriving at Cambridge, Jesse's father would die, and this loss was devastating personally to him, but also created a serious financial difficult situation for him to be him, because his father was the one that was paying for his education, so Jesse had to figure out how to progress through Cambridge without his father footing the bill, and this was a tough season for him.
11:45 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_01]: He had a budget food, you know, whatever the 1600s version of living on ramen is, you know, that's what it's what he's doing.
11:53 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I live off of like a single piece of bread or something.
11:56 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Bread, my tree bark, I don't know.
12:01 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're at tree bark levels at this time, maybe not.
12:07 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like certain types that feel like you'd like boil, I don't know, I don't know if of that.
12:11 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think they're eating tree bark either.
12:13 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I said it's like a piece of bread, a piece of bread and probably like porridge porridge.
12:17 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_02]: That's gotta be what I mean.
12:18 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all that.
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds much more appetizing.
12:22 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And he eats, he also talks about renting his book.
12:26 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He'd have to rent books instead of purchasing them because he didn't have enough money to buy him.
12:31 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: but despite those hardships, he persevered and would eventually get his master's degree.
12:37 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He seemed to be clearly a very gifted scholar, and that's somewhat unusual for the trajectory his life would take with him ending up as a Baptist leader.
12:49 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: At this time, he's going through Cambridge who
12:53 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a state-run school, so you're the church of England, you're studying to become an Anglican pastor, and they kind of have the corner on training new religious leaders.
13:03 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So those early Baptist movements did not have a lot of
13:09 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Theologically, classically trained leaders, except him because he becomes one.
13:14 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So he has all of this prestigious education that a lot of the other non- Church of England, to tough nations, they didn't have access to that level of education that he would have.
13:28 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_01]: To graduate students were required to know Latin, Jesse, you know, just as a testament to like his level of capacity here, not only did he learn Latin, but he also was well versed in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.
13:42 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So pretty talented in the visual.
13:45 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I always think it's kind of wild how many people learn air mags.
13:48 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not that many people, but the fact that anybody does is incredible to me, because it's not like people, you know, the Bible is written in Greek and Hebrew, and then one section is written air mag.
13:57 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we've, I mean, I remember, we had a professor in Bible College who also...
14:01 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: was an expert on aeromec and I'm always like I, that's why I told to me that like that because that one little sliver is an aeromec people and I would help it's helpful for reading old documents and other things too, but it's I'm impressed by people, these people who learn these old religions and again he's doing this at, I don't think,
14:19 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_02]: will get to why it's a big deal that he learned Hebrew a little bit later in the episode because it but it was not a thing at the time it was not very easy to learn the resources it's not easy to learn now the resources we have for learning Hebrew now we're not available in England at the time and again we'll get to why but there's very big reason why
14:39 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_02]: More importantly than his great academic education.
14:41 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He also had a personal conversion to Christ during this time He said it which again always fascinating to me these guys are like kind of growing a learning a lot of knowledge about God But they don't really know him But he had a time of intense personal Bible study around the age of 21 again not too long after his dad died I think probably going through school and stuff and he he just became convicted that of who Jesus was and became a true believer
15:05 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_02]: He felt called to ministry and his 1627 became more dained as an angelic ambassador, which could also fascinated me because his dad was an angelic ambassador.
15:12 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He was raised in the Christian home.
15:14 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He bound paper, he was going to school and studying stuff.
15:17 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You would think he would have been a Christian, but he wasn't until he had that personal time with God in the Bible study.
15:24 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_02]: He ended up as a private chaplain to wealthy aristocrats and their kids.
15:28 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So he basically was kind of like a Christian tutor almost, but he would, you know,
15:33 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cushy gig.
15:34 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to like rich person's house at the rich person's house, kind of doing some private tutoring and the Bible and theology and stuff.
15:41 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was your job.
15:42 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You're the private chaplain of these really wealthy people.
15:45 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And that left him a lot of free time to study the Bible.
15:48 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So he kept studying, kept studying, and he got deeper and deeper in his convictions.
15:53 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And eventually, in 1633, he was removed from the English and church, English and church because he had kind of his convictions that got
16:02 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Too many negative things about Anglican Church, you were saying, you know, they had drifted from God's word here and they weren't following God's word there and they were telling them basically like, hey, you're an Anglican get in line and he was saying, I'm not going to get in line with what's not in the Bible.
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm studying the Bible.
16:16 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing that you're out of step here and they kicked him out.
16:21 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_02]: in 1634, kind of a rich guy who liked to kind of supported him, gave him the ministry where he would go from different places to different places preaching and kind of he'd pay his wage, you know, kind of like, I don't know, it's almost between like an old artisan that works for a landlord and like a missionary kind of thing, an interesting idea there.
16:39 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And in 1637, he ends up becoming the pastor of an underground dissenting church.
16:46 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we try not, if you don't dissenters non-conformist uniform, it's just so many different names like that during this English Civil War period build up.
16:54 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, don't get so confused by the things.
16:56 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, the church was not able to preach publicly and out in the open.
17:00 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, they had a great reputation.
17:02 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, this is the church that 14 or 15 years before had launched the pilgrims out of it.
17:07 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So,
17:08 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And they are a very important church to, you know, world history in that way, and they're a pastor who launched the programs he himself went to America for a very short time before coming back and passing away.
17:19 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_02]: They had another pastor that kind of helped continue to fuel the anti church of England sentiment and then he passed it on to Henry Jesse.
17:28 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_02]: But
17:29 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_02]: They also became intermingled and mixed with the founding of the Baptist, partially because of Henry Jesse, who in the year 1645 came to inclusion that Believer's baptism was the only real baptism, and so he kind of set up and said that he wasn't going to, I don't believe he ever forced it from the church, but it became just a rallying called these people who said he had to be Believer's Baptist, started rallying at his church.
17:59 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so this is a weird time, a dark time, a confusing time for people in England.
18:06 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: There are many different groups popping off their separatists.
18:09 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: There's non-conformists.
18:10 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_01]: There's to centers.
18:13 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The landscape was constantly shifting, but one thing was pretty consistent is that the Church of England, the Anglicans there, did not like anyone else, anyone other than them.
18:28 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were a Puritan or a Baptist, one example of the challenges that they faced was what happened when Jesse's church began to grow.
18:38 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, normally growth is something that every church is excited about in ones, but for them to grow also meant greater visibility and a higher chance of attracting the government's attention, which again, it was illegal for them to be operating.
18:52 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_01]: To avoid that, their church thought, okay, let's divide into two congregations, so each group can remain smaller and that was their kind of approach to it.
19:03 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't end up working very well in 1641, Jesse and five other members of the church ended up being arrested and some accounts suggest that they may have been imprisoned for as long as six months.
19:19 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: simply for preaching and gathering together as a church.
19:24 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Jesse's ministry extended far beyond preaching.
19:27 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: He regularly organized support for the poor and at one point his fundraising efforts were helping sustain around 30 families.
19:36 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine, imagine supporting 30 families, but you got to do it in secret.
19:40 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that.
19:41 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a kind of a unique challenge.
19:43 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: his concern wasn't limited to people nearby either.
19:46 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: He also raised lots of money to help those in need around the world.
19:51 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: He played a role in efforts that were put forth to produce a revised translation of the Bible.
19:57 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got his, he's got his fingers in in all different aspects of ministry.
20:02 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He also became deeply involved in the political world surrounding Oliver Cromwell when King Charles returned to power Jesse was arrested and eventually fled to the Netherlands for safety.
20:15 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Towards the end of his life, I mean he did, he returned to England, he caught a fever, and he's ended up passing away in London in the year 1663.
20:24 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, summarizing Henry Jesse's life, again, we've said it's difficult, not just because of the time purity lived in, but because of all the things he was a part of, we could have easily spent the entire episode talking about the Jacobites, which is like a political movement that stemmed out of him, even though it's not named after Jesse, his group kind of got associated with it.
20:42 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_02]: There's just so many random things that kind of come and go from all of this.
20:48 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a really big issue that if we don't cover it, A, this episode, what you're, the sermon you're about to listen to will make sense, but also it's huge and he played a huge, huge role in it.
20:59 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the most important things was how inland and how Christians deal with Jewish people.
21:04 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So in the year 1290, 1290, which is way back, basically in Crusader times, I mean, the Knights Templar, we're still not fully gone yet.
21:14 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_02]: That's how far would you would know, be listening to the deep dive on the Knights Templar.
21:18 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_02]: The Jews were kicked out of England and given less than a year to leave England or face execution, which, you know, families that have lived there for centuries are now having to pack up and leave England all in a year.
21:29 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_02]: uh, definitely a terrible, crazy mess of a time.
21:32 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And for 366 years, they were still banned from England.
21:38 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Until the year 1656, when Oliver Cromwell lets them return.
21:42 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, when they opened the door and say Jewish people you may now entering England, I don't know.
21:46 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Was there like a long line of people buying tickets to go back?
21:49 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I imagine it took a while before people started to move back in.
21:52 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't, if a country had kicked me out for three, almost 400 years, I don't know that I would be buying that first
22:00 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but one of the main reasons why was in 1655, they hired, they had the Oliver Cromwell as he's in charge of England for that 10 years or so.
22:09 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He has a commission basically, a council kind of together and decide like, hey, what are we doing with the Jewish people?
22:14 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we going to, we've had them kicked out of the country.
22:17 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the right thing to do?
22:19 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And there were nine main council members that were kind of the leader experts.
22:22 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Henry Jesse is one of them.
22:25 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Henry Jesse had raised support to send back to Jewish people who were living in Jerusalem to help them, which he will explain in this kind of this speech, how that was extremely helpful for Jewish people having a more positive view on Christians.
22:38 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And he basically, you know, makes the case before this council, like we're not treating the Jewish people right at all.
22:45 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_02]: This is terrible way to treat them.
22:48 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And we've got a change.
22:49 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not doing the right thing at all by them.
22:51 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is one of the main reasons why they never overseeing this 366 year rule and allowing Jewish people to come back into England.
23:01 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So again, when I said he learned Hebrew, know that he learned Hebrew in a country, where there were no Jewish people living.
23:06 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_02]: There were no access to any kind of Hebrew resources like that at all.
23:09 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Then, in fact, the reform movement is the one that really started to look back at Hebrew and start to study the ideas of the Bible and ask the questions like,
23:17 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_02]: We've been reading it in Latin for hundreds and hundreds of years, but should we actually be going back and understanding it more from, well, how would Jewish people have understood this?
23:26 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they have their own ways of viewing things and we might be putting our own biases on it.
23:31 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_02]: He became a convinced that Jewish people coming to Christ in their homeland would be a sign of the second coming of Christ and he was very open like, we want the Jews to come to Christ because when the Jews come to Christ, that will mean where that much closer to Jesus returning to earth.
23:47 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Despite all the controversy, the crazy life politics, all of this, he was a very well-loved guy.
23:52 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And when he died, it is said that four to five thousand mourners came out to remember him.
23:57 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And remember, this is when he was, for part of his time, over a church that was literally underground, not like literally as an under the ground, but as in that they couldn't be out in the open, they had to split when it got too big, so people wouldn't know about them.
24:09 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, listen as he gives a passionate speech on the state of the Jews in 1658.
24:30 --> 24:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Those who believe the promises that God will be merciful to the house of Israel, because He still loves them for the sake of their fathers.
24:38 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And that His gifts and calling toward them are without conditions.
24:42 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Also believe that He will show mercy to them, through the mercy that has been shown to us Gentiles.
24:48 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And those who hope that when this mercy is shown to them and all Israel is saved, believe their fullness and restoration to grace will become abundant riches for the whole world.
24:58 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It will be like people coming back from the dead, people who believe like this, I say, should seriously consider what God is doing right now to bring about His great work.
25:09 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They should consider what preparations are being made at this present moment, and by what means God will bring them and us together as one flock and one sheepfold under Christ Jesus, so that both they and we may glorify God together through Him.
25:26 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Reflecting on this is necessary to prepare us for the work of our own generation.
25:31 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So that in our respective places, we may serve God's purpose and share and the comfort that will come from it to his to people.
25:40 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_00]: For those who mourn for Jerusalem and who expect that she will be made the glory of the whole earth, will draw comfort from her reconciliation.
25:48 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_00]: With this in mind, we ought to observe the following matters concerning the present condition of the Jewish people.
25:54 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_00]: From these, it is evident that God is beginning to appear on their behalf through extraordinary acts of providence.
26:00 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He is doing this partly by driving them through great afflictions to look up to him.
26:05 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: partly by moving them to recognize that the cause of these afflictions is the sin of their forefathers in neglecting the day of their salvation, and partly by stirring both Christians and Turks to have compassion on them.
26:18 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_00]: By this means, a door of hope is being open for them to find relief and for us to share with them lovingly the mysteries of the gospel.
26:27 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_00]: This purpose is already present in the hearts of many of God's servants, both here and elsewhere,
26:35 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_00]: These servants seek to confirm their love through works of mercy in order to prepare the way for deeper communication and proper time.
26:43 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I will give some account of this so that those who are willing to join others in prayer to God on their behalf and in acts of charity to win them through kindness may not fail to make use of the opportunities God provides.
26:55 --> 27:01 [SPEAKER_00]: In doing so, they may help advance His purpose and for their own comfort, they are earnestly encouraged to do so.
27:02 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_00]: First, it should be noticed that as a distress among the nations of the world increases, so too does the affliction and suffering of the Jews.
27:11 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Since they are scattered among these nations, their troubles must necessarily increase along with them.
27:17 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_00]: They have no possessions that they are permitted or willing to claim as their lasting inheritance among the nations where they live.
27:24 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, they are not able to return to the inheritance they expect as a nation in the land of Canaan, which is theirs by God's promise.
27:32 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Because of this, they're suffering and calamity must be greater than that of other nations in proportion to how much more unsettled their condition is.
27:41 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: When the nations among whom they live become so unstable, that the Jews can neither remain safely among them nor move to any other place or refuge, this must be the time of trouble spoken of by Daniel.
27:55 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: A time described as unlike any since there was a nation, even up to that moment.
28:00 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And since it is promised that when their trouble reaches this height, Michael, the great Prince will arise on their behalf, we must understand that the time of their deliverance is drawing near.
28:10 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, the greater the distress and turmoil among the nations, the closer their deliverance must be.
28:16 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_00]: For Christ tells us that Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
28:23 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled after the signs in the sun, moon, and stars, many of which have already appeared, and there will be such distress among the nations and such confusion and fear that people will be overwhelmed by what they see coming upon the earth.
28:38 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_00]: and the powers of heaven will be shaken.
28:41 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_00]: We believe that these events have already begun.
28:44 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: When they come to their end, the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled, and the Shulamite will return.
28:50 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_00]: This distress among the nations has already begun in Europe, but it is expected to reach its conclusion in Asia and Africa.
29:00 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It will be fully accomplished when the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, as written in Isaiah 1923 through 25.
29:08 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_00]: At that time, Israel will be the third partner with Egypt and to Syria that is with Africa and Asia, and will be a blessing in the midst of the land.
29:18 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Then the Lord of hosts will bless them, saying, Blessed be Egypt, my people, and a Syria, the work of my hands, and Israel, my inheritance.
29:28 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Since it now appears that this will be the outcome of the troubles that have begun.
29:32 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And since our Savior promises that, for the sake of the elect, the days of tribulation will be shortened.
29:39 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_00]: We may reasonably conclude that it will not be long before the Jews are restored, and with them, the nations are brought to peace.
29:46 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_00]: For this reason, we should take a closer look at their present condition, to observe how God's providence is preparing them for deliverance and making a way for it to happen.
29:56 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_00]: We will therefore consider, first, the condition of the Jews in Jerusalem, where their deliverance will take place and where it will begin according to the words of Micah.
30:06 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_00]: O Tower of the flock, the stronghold of the daughter of Zion, to you it will come, even the former Dominion, the kingdom will come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
30:16 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_00]: second, we will consider how the way is being prepared for this deliverance to occur.
30:21 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Concerning the first point, they're distress.
30:23 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The recent condition of the Jews in Jerusalem has been such that they could not live or support themselves there without yearly assistance and financial contributions from their brethren abroad.
30:34 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The land provides little or no opportunity for trade by which they might maintain themselves.
30:40 --> 30:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet their love for the place compels them to remain there, even in great poverty and need.
30:45 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Their brethren scattered among the nations have been willing to support them in Jerusalem so that the city would not be left without a significant number of Jews.
30:53 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_00]: In this way, they might maintain a kind of possession, or at least a foothold there, as a sign of their hope until full restoration should come.
31:02 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: For this reason, Jews and Poland, Lithuania, Prussia and Russia were great numbers of that nation once lived, used to send, through the German Jews dwelling in Jerusalem, about 30 imperial dollars each year.
31:18 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_00]: By this means, the Jews in Jerusalem were able to survive in a tolerable condition and to pay their taxes.
31:25 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_00]: However, since war brought devastation upon Poland and the surrounding region from which this aid came, the Jews in Jerusalem have fallen into extreme poverty.
31:35 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_00]: In recent years, the taxes imposed on them by the Turks were harshly collected.
31:40 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_00]: As a result, they were dragged into prison.
31:42 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Their synagogues were shut, and their rabbis and elders were beaten and cruelly treated.
31:48 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_00]: because no assistance could come from Poland, Lithuania, or other parts of Europe due to the recent wars, and because no help could be found locally.
31:57 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_00]: For the Turks imposed heavy and merciless burdens on everyone.
32:00 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_00]: They sent two of their chief rabbis to their brethren in Europe to report their condition and to request aid.
32:06 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The chief rabbi was named Nathan Safira, son of the noble Ruben David Tavill.
32:13 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_00]: When he and his companion arrive from Jerusalem on this mission, they found little help among the Portuguese Jews in Amsterdam.
32:20 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: However, through circumstances, they became acquainted with some Christian friends who took pity on their condition.
32:27 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_00]: of their own accord, these Christians sought to gather relief from them, among other Christian acquaintances.
32:33 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_00]: The total amount they received from Dutch Jews in Europe was $6 and $6 dollars, which we estimate to be about 1 pounds and 5 shillings.
32:45 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_00]: The contributions given by Christians in Holland amounted to 390 dukes, which we believe
32:56 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_00]: With this money, they departed, but it was sufficient only to pay the interest on their principal debts and to give gifts to influential officials.
33:04 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So that further time might be granted to them.
33:07 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The 390 Ducats were used to relieve some of their more urgent personal needs.
33:13 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_00]: This assistance was delivered to them in the year 1656.
33:18 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_00]: After receiving it, they sent a letter of acknowledgement and thanks, dated from Jerusalem on April 22, 1657.
33:27 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: In this letter, they described the continuing of their miserable condition in this way.
33:31 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_00]: They had bound themselves to the Muslim ruler who governed Jerusalem to repay the principal debt within two years, pledging their lives, their court, their school, and even their wives and children as security.
33:44 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, they suffered hunger and thirst, and went from house to house seeking a small piece of bread from their Italian and Portuguese brethren living in Jerusalem.
33:54 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_00]: These Italian and Portuguese Jews were themselves a little better off than the German Jews, except that they received some aid from abroad.
34:03 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Nor did the German Jews dare to beg from anyone outside their own nation or their religion, which greatly worsened their distress.
34:11 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially when their own people were either unable or unwilling to help.
34:15 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_00]: This was the case with Rabbi Nathan Safira for the Portuguese Jews and Amsterdam, did not provide him with enough assistance.
34:22 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They claimed that the Portuguese and Spanish Jews, living in Jerusalem, he brought Safad, and other places in Judea, depended on them, and were already being supported by them.
34:33 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Nevertheless, when it became known that Christians had assisted Rabbi Nathan and his companion with financial contribution.
34:40 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Some suspected that the Rabbi had gone to the Christians to beg for help.
34:45 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Because of this suspicion, they intended to disgrace him in their synagogues.
34:50 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_00]: However, once they were properly informed and understood that the support did not come from any request made by the rabbi, but rather from the free and voluntary offering of the Christians, given without any solicitation they were satisfied.
35:04 --> 35:09 [SPEAKER_00]: For it could not be taken badly if the rabbi merely received what was freely offered to him.
35:10 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_00]: This is worth noting, as it shows how severe their situation truly was.
35:15 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_00]: By the principles of their religion, they were forbidden to seek relief from anyone except their own people.
35:21 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet no one could be found among them.
35:23 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: As a result, they were bound rather to star than to ask assistance from outsiders, whether they are Christians, Muslims, or pagans, even in times of extreme need.
35:33 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Only in more recent times of some in Jerusalem began to seek relief from those who show
35:39 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_00]: even if they are Christians.
35:41 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_00]: This was a harsh situation, and therefore one that deserved great compassion.
35:46 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet it was made even harder by the fact that so few were willing to show them that compassion.
35:52 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_00]: From all this, we make include that just as their condition is more difficult than usual, the deliverance must come in an extraordinary way.
36:00 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_00]: For other nations, when they are oppressed by enemies, have neighboring peoples to whom they may flee as friends, but the Jews have none at all.
36:08 --> 36:12 [SPEAKER_00]: First, let's look at their physical deliverance from captivity in exile.
36:13 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_00]: We believe that the distress now coming upon the nations across the whole Earth is a clear preparation for this deliverance.
36:19 --> 36:21 [SPEAKER_00]: and this is in two ways.
36:21 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_00]: First, by driving them out from among the nations where they can no longer remain, and forcing them to draw closer together from mutual support.
36:31 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Second, by stirring in them stronger desires and deeper reflections upon the promise that they will return to their own inheritance.
36:39 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_00]: by all of this, when they perceive that the waters of the Great River Euphrates are dried up, they will be moved to resolve upon a march toward their own land from every direction.
36:50 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It is expected that in Egypt and Syria, they will gather in two main bodies, as it is said in Song of Solomon 613, you will see in the Shulamite at her return the company of two armies.
37:03 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So, the distress of the nations driving them toward these two places serves as a preparation for their return.
37:10 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Another preparation for the way of their return is that God continues to appear on their behalf in the extremity of their miseries.
37:18 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_00]: when no help can be found from men.
37:21 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Even in this great calamity in which they now exist, there remains a door of hope left open to them.
37:27 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_00]: By this, Providence sustains them so that they do not completely perish.
37:32 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_00]: From this, we must conclude that although God allows them to be cast down, he will not permit them to be destroyed.
37:39 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And although he allows them to be perplexed, he will not allow them to fall into despair.
37:44 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: of these things, there are clear examples, recently occurring.
37:49 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: First, that God has appeared for them in their terrible condition.
37:52 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_00]: When no help could be attained or even expected from men, one such instance is this.
37:59 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_00]: A few years back, there had been no rain in Jerusalem or the surrounding land for a long time, so that both Jews and Turks were brought into awful distress and were in danger of perishing.
38:10 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_00]: the Turks, having humbled themselves for a time, and prayed to their God and their own ways for reign, received no answer from heaven.
38:19 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_00]: From this, they concluded that God was angry with them because the Jews were allowed to live among them.
38:25 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, in great rage and with drawn swords, they went to the Jews and threatened them, declaring that unless rain was obtained from heaven within three days, all the Jews would be put to death.
38:38 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_00]: In response, the Jews appointed a solemn fast.
38:42 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_00]: On the third day, they assembled at a place they called the tomb of Zachary, and prayed until noon.
38:49 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_00]: After noon, the clouds gathered, and with thunder they poured down such a flood of rain that all the sisters were filled and overflowed.
38:57 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_00]: By this they were saved from death.
38:59 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It is made evident that the Lord acknowledged them, and supported them when no one but he could help them.
39:05 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_00]: since that time, God has also moved the new Turkish paasha to show them kindness.
39:12 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: After his arrival in Jerusalem, he paid all their creditors using his own goods and merchandise.
39:18 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He then made a favorable agreement with the Jews.
39:22 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of paying $15, they were to pay only $7.
39:27 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And that over a period of two years without interest.
39:31 --> 39:33 [SPEAKER_00]: However, this agreement came with a severe condition.
39:34 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That if the payment was not made as agreed, they would all become his slaves, and he could treat them however he pleased.
39:41 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_00]: From this it is clear that although the Lord allows them to fall into great difficulties, difficulties that, by all human judgment, appear impossible to escape, he does not allow them to be destroyed by them.
39:54 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead, he continues to provide some way of escape.
39:59 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_00]: There remains a door of hope open to them.
40:01 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: In the language of Providence, this means that the Lord has not utterly cast them off, but still has mercy stored up for them, until they are prepared for full deliverance.
40:11 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_00]: For all these trials carried out through Providence and Mercy have one purpose to bring them to an awareness of their sins, so that they may repent, be cleansed from them, and be brought to the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
40:23 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_00]: By faith in Him, they may receive the forgiveness of their sins for His sake.
40:28 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Toward this end, we Christians ought to seek to be instruments of God's work among them.
40:34 --> 40:45 [SPEAKER_00]: For now, being humbled and seeing that our love and compassion are not closed against them in their misery, they may be more willing to listen without prejudice to the truth of our faith and hope.
40:46 --> 40:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But beyond all the signs of favor, which we know with particular assurance and see as clear preparations for their restoration, there is one more matter to mention.
40:56 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It is something reported widely, and though it rests only on common rumor, it deserves to be noted.
41:03 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It is said that the land of Canaan, which is formally extremely barren and more unfruitful than the surrounding countries,
41:10 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_00]: has within the past five or six years become remarkably fertile, producing 10 times the increase it once did.
41:18 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_00]: If this report is true, and we cannot state it with certainty, only repeat what is said by some of the inhabitants, then we may reasonably conclude this, that God is not only preparing the people to return to their land through the trials already described, but is also preparing the land to receive them.
41:36 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_00]: For just as God turns a fruitful land, a debarrenness because of the sins of a people, Psalm 1734.
41:43 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So when he is reconciled to a people, he promises that the heavens, the earth, and the fruits of the ground will respond to their needs, Jose at 2, 21 and 22.
41:55 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_00]: If this restoration of fruitfulness is now beginning to take place in the land of Canaan after such a long period of barrenness, we might rightly conclude that God is preparing it for more inhabitants than it was formally able to support.
42:08 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_00]: In doing so, he is about to fulfill the prophecy of Moses in Deuteronomy 32, 43.
42:15 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Rejoice own nations with his people.
42:17 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_00]: For he will avenge the blood of his servants, render vengeance to his adversaries and be merciful to his land and to his people.
42:25 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Just as God did not bring Adam into the world until all creation had been prepared for his dwelling, so he will not bring his people back into their land until it is prepared to
42:38 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_00]: These acts are providence toward them as a nation, and especially toward Jerusalem, which is the tower of the flock and the stronghold of the daughter of Zion.
42:46 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: We regard only as preparations seen from a distance, a general glimpse of God's purpose seen from afar.
42:53 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_00]: They show that they have not been utterly forgotten by Him.
42:57 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_00]: but that because of his intention to do them good for the sake of their fathers, he is preparing them for a further deliverance from their ignorance and spiritual captivity.
43:07 --> 43:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Concerning the removal of this spiritual captivity, we also observe some remarkable preparations taking place among them.
43:14 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It is evident from the conversation some of our friends have had with their chief rabbi, Nathan Safira, that the understanding of the Messiah held by their more thoughtful rabbi's is not as far removed from Christian belief as we have commonly assumed.
43:28 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Moreover, the disposition of their spirits at this time appears more open to receiving the truth of the gospel than ever before.
43:36 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_00]: To demonstrate this, we will read some extracts from a letter written by a friend dated April 1657.
43:44 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_00]: These excerpts will show both this and Saturday of Rabbi Nathan and his understanding of sacred mysteries.
43:50 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. P. Sorarius writes us follows.
43:53 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_00]: On one occasion, we were speaking together about the Messiah.
43:57 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I was explaining the story of the patriarch Joseph, how he was sold by his brothers, and how the story unfolds until the moment when he reveals to himself to them, even though they believed him long dead.
44:09 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, one of the Jews in Amsterdam who was standing nearby said it once,
44:19 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Rabbi Nathan immediately corrected him and said, do not speak like that.
44:23 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Whoever it is that must come, our prayers and desires are simply this.
44:27 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That God would be pleased to reveal him.
44:31 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We replied, unless Christ reveals himself, we do not expect you to believe us, but if he should reveal himself to you, like Joseph, who was long believed to be dead, yet showed himself alive again, surely you would, no less than your forefathers, believe which are own I see.
44:49 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_00]: To this, both of them agreed.
44:51 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We then ask Nathan how we understood I say 53, 4 and 5.
44:56 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows.
45:00 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our inequities.
45:05 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed.
45:10 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The question was, of whom does the prophet speak in this passage?
45:14 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He answered plainly, he speaks of the Messiah.
45:18 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_00]: When we expressed surprise at this answer and replied that the Jews commonly interpret that passage differently, he said that according to the Kabbalah, it was absolutely clear that the passage could be understood of no one else.
45:32 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_00]: To support this, he cited the words of the previous chapter, Isaiah 52, 13.
45:37 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Behold, my servant will deal prudently, he will be exalted and extoled and be very high.
45:44 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He explained that within this wording were unmistakable signs of the mystery.
45:50 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_00]: These things he concluded could be said of no one but the Messiah.
45:54 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore the words that follow in chapters 52 and 53 must be understood as referring only to the Messiah.
46:01 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_00]: When we then asked how we interpreted the words of chapter 53 concerning the Messiah, he answered that the spirit of the Messiah existed before Adam.
46:11 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as Adam fell under the condemnation of death and the curse, the Messiah was moved with deep compassion.
46:18 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Coming down from heaven, he took upon himself the full weight of that condemnation, a burden that neither Adam nor the entire human race could have borne.
46:26 --> 46:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He continues to bear it still, so that suffering humanity might be given time and opportunity to repent and be reconciled to God.
46:34 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_00]: If this opportunity is rightly used, humanity may be freed from condemnation and restored to God's favor.
46:41 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_00]: However, if this opportunity is rejected, the Messiah will withdraw his support, leaving every stubborn and unrepentant sinner to bear his own burden.
46:51 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_00]: in the meantime, while this time of repentance and reconciliation continues, it is the Messiah who, since the fall of Adam, has borne our sicknesses and carried our sorrows.
47:03 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He is the one who was bruised for our transgressions and iniquities, and upon whom the chastisement of our peace was laid.
47:10 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Had the spirit of the Messiah not been willing to do this, the sickness and pain caused by our sins would long ago have consumed us.
47:18 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Our transgressions and inequities would have crushed us completely, and no hope of peace or salvation would ever have appeared to us.
47:26 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_00]: When I heard these things, I was deeply moved within myself.
47:29 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It seemed to me that I was not listening to a Jew, but almost to a Christian.
47:34 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet on other occasion,
47:36 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_00]: We were gathered privately with some friends, as we often were, to read a portion of Scripture.
47:42 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Rabbi Nathan unexpectedly joined us.
47:45 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_00]: We decided to read Christ's sermon on the Mount from Matthew, chapters 5 through 7.
47:50 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_00]: While we read the Dutch translation aloud, we gave him monsters Hebrew translation to read silently.
47:57 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_00]: We told him that this was the law of our Christ, and asked him to read it, and then tell us what he thought.
48:03 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He did so, and after reading the whole passage, he openly acknowledged, very sincerely, that within it contained the foundation and source of all wisdom.
48:12 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He said that whoever would keep these commandments would be more righteous than he, himself or his people.
48:17 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_00]: He also noted that some of its teachings were drawn from the purest and most ancient rabbinic writings.
48:23 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_00]: At that same meeting, we prayed, not without tears and deep humility, for the Jews as well as for ourselves, asking God to blood out both our sins and theirs, to remember His mercy and to restore the Holy Spirit which they had lost.
48:37 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_00]: These prayers seem to affect him deeply.
48:40 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He openly declared that if there were only ten people in Jerusalem who would pray with such sincere hearts for the coming of the Messiah, then without any doubt, the Messiah would come suddenly.
48:51 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_00]: When he asked how we understood Malachi 3-1
48:55 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_00]: behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple.
49:02 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He said that the messenger referred to Elijah, and that the Lord referred to the Messiah.
49:07 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_00]: The Messiah, he explained, would come and reveal himself in the temple.
49:11 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Not the earthly temple built by human hands, but his own temple built in heaven, which he would bring down from heaven to earth.
49:19 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_00]: When I asked him
49:24 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He said that this temple was appointed for all people of the Gentiles who fear God sincerely.
49:30 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: On one occasion, when he ate dinner with us and saw us pray with our hands joined and lifted up toward heaven, he asked why we prayed with that posture.
49:38 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_00]: We answered that it was an ancient custom passed down from Moses, who prayed against Amalek on the mountain with his hands lifted up to heaven.
49:46 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_00]: To this the Rabbi replied, without doubt, who can ever lift up pure hands to heaven with Moses, will be heard by God as Moses was.
49:54 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But he explained that hands are truly lifted up impurity, only when the whole soul is directed toward God with all its strength, and when a person is a clear conscience before God's ten commandments.
50:05 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_00]: True purity and sincerity, he said, require that a person be inwardly ordered in the same way their body appears outwardly.
50:13 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, since those of his nation do not consider themselves to possess such a frame of spirit, they do not lift both hands toward heaven.
50:21 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead, they keep their hands folded in their bosom, holding the left hand with the right, the right hand to explain, represents mercy, and the left represents God's justice.
50:32 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_00]: By this gesture, they pray that God through his mercy would restrain his justice so that it might not break out upon them as miserable sinners and consume them, but instead first prepare and shape them for all that is good.
50:44 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I could recount many other examples like this, which reveal a truly devout and humble spirit.
50:52 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_00]: When he was asked whether he feared for his life, especially since he was a Jew, a people hated above all others in the Lancer which he traveled, he answered, when I look at myself, I see that I am entirely unworthy of any mercy from God, or that he should hear my prayers.
51:09 --> 51:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But what gives me some confidence for my life is the suffering and extreme distress of the poor in Jerusalem and the merits of the forefathers in their faith in God.
51:18 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that their prayers will carry weight before the father of the needy.
51:23 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Here we see faith joined with humility, and within that faith a humble and self-denying spirit.
51:30 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
51:32 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it believable that Christ might be working on a soul like this?
51:35 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_00]: For my own part, I freely confess that I believe I see Christ working on his spirit.
51:41 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot help but love him and all who were questioning and thinking through their faith like him of whom he says there are many in Jerusalem.
51:49 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to regard these some day as true brothers of him who is our Christ and their Joseph.
51:55 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So our friend Peter Cerrarius wrote, from this we may draw the following conclusion.
52:01 --> 52:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It is evident that the Lord by humbling their spirits, by moving them to look to Him for the fulfillment of His promises, and by allowing them to see that the mysteries of divine wisdom and the way of righteousness are revealed more clearly to us through Jesus of Nazareth in the Gospel than they ever were through their rabbis.
52:18 --> 52:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it work among them?
52:20 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_00]: There was no contradiction here, but rather a harmony with the promise that Jesus will be revealed to them as Joseph was, once to his brothers.
52:29 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Moreover, by bringing their leaders into contact with Christians who love them freely for Christ's sake, who willingly assist them in their distress, and who give them reason to consider the truth of the gospel without prejudice.
52:41 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lord is clearly preparing a way for their conversion to Christianity.
52:45 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_00]: This becomes even more evident through other circumstances known to some of us, namely, some of the afflicted Jews in Jerusalem have begun to confess that their forefathers acted wickedly and putting Jesus of Nazareth to death, that he was a just man, that the spirit of the Messiah was in him, and that for putting him and others to death, they need to repent.
53:08 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_00]: They acknowledge that they cannot attribute the great wrath that has come upon them to any other cause so notable as this sin.
53:16 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_00]: If such confessions are now being made among some of their leaders as we know to be true, this is a clear sign that God is preparing them for His mercy through the acknowledgment of their sin and repentance for the death of Christ.
53:27 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And if their hearts are once stirred with genuine remorse for this sin, there is no doubt that they will obtain pardon.
53:33 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We are also reliably informed that a Hebrew translation of the New Testament different in style from the usual Hebrew scripture is being brought to Judea in order to be revised into proper scripture Hebrew and then sent back to Amsterdam for printing.
53:49 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_00]: If they begin to read the New Testament as a true history in their own Hebrew language, there can be no greater preparation for the conversion than this.
53:57 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And we know that God is presently setting this very work in motion among them.
54:02 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_00]: For all this, we make include that God is preparing them for mercy, by bringing them nearer to the acknowledge of Jesus Christ, and nothing will bring them more effectively to that knowledge next to the outpouring of the Spirit of grace and supplication than these two things.
54:16 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_00]: First, the sharing of the new testament in their own language by some of their own rabbis, and second, the unity of Christians, who with one voice or forth the core truth of Christianity, which brings salvation to all.
54:28 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_00]: and third by opening to them the deep compassion of our charity during these times of distress and confusion.
54:34 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So they may find relief through these three means, all of which God is now actively putting a emotion among them.
54:41 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_00]: This work may continue and prosper until the Lord comes into his temple.
54:46 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, all whose hearts are stirred with compassion for them and their wounded condition and who earnestly long for their deliverance are encouraged to show this both through prayer and by opening their hearts and hands generously toward them.
54:59 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_00]: how blessed will those be who have a part in helping to make Jerusalem a glory in all the earth?
55:06 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Psalm 122-6, pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
55:10 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_00]: They shall prosper who love you.
55:12 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Psalm 41, one and two.
55:14 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Blessed is the one who considers the poor.
55:16 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lord will deliver him in the time of trouble.
55:18 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The Lord will preserve him and keep him alive and he will be blessed upon the earth.
55:23 --> 55:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And you will not give him over to the will of his enemies.
55:26 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_00]: 2 Corinthians 8.9.
55:28 --> 55:36 [SPEAKER_00]: For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that through His poverty You might become rich.
55:37 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_00]: 2 Corinthians 9.
55:38 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_00]: 6 and 7.
55:40 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_00]: He who so sparingly will also reap sparingly, and He who so's generously will also reap generously.
55:46 --> 55:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Each one must give as He is decided in His heart, not reluctantly, or under compulsion.
55:52 --> 55:55 [SPEAKER_00]: For God loves a cheerful giver.
56:06 --> 56:15 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so you look at, and you listen to this story of the say the Jews, how they were very unwilling to accept a donation from Christians, but how they were able to get the donation.
56:15 --> 56:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, and you see how Henne Jesse is dealing with the fact that, yeah, you know what, Jewish people, like then and like today were resistant to the call to Christ.
56:23 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_02]: But also he said, as they traveled, they met Jewish people and many of them were very open to talking about Christ because they knew the scriptures.
56:29 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_02]: They were, they were easier to bring the Christ or how spiritual conversations with then Muslims,
56:36 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And he also, he kind of said, you know, that this problem that they had was the Christian persecution of Jewish people was causing Jewish people to not believe in Christ.
56:49 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was causing a lot of trouble between them believing in the Messiah, because the people who are supposedly believing in the Messiah don't treat them very well.
56:59 --> 57:06 [SPEAKER_02]: that this had led to a lot of pain among Jewish people, but also that it was Christian behavior that was keeping many of these people from coming to Christ.
57:06 --> 57:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they are hearts were partially hardened, but it also, they were very open to Christ if you treated them with love and care.
57:13 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_02]: That was true, 400 years ago, and I think that that is probably also true as well.
57:17 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And actually, I didn't mean for this episode to come out around the same time as at least the episode, because at least I don't think she even knew she was doing that episode, but she recently
57:28 --> 57:34 [SPEAKER_02]: woman who was a Jewish person who came to Christ and became a missionary to her own community of Jewish people in Russia.
57:34 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very sad story how it ends up, how she gets banished and exiled from her family and she ends up being murdered for the faith for by these people, but one of the biggest arguments they had against her was how can these people be, how can Christians
57:49 --> 57:56 [SPEAKER_02]: be from the Messiah, how can they, how can Jesus really be God based on how Christians treat us?
57:57 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that we as Christians need to remember that everyone who is not a believer in Christ has the opportunity to come to Christ, everyone needs to be treated with love, everyone needs, we need to share the gospel with them, regardless of their Jewish, their Muslim, if they're a non-believer, if they're atheists, wherever they are,
58:15 --> 58:18 [SPEAKER_02]: our love, our behavior, how we treat them really does matter.
58:18 --> 58:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And I hope and pray that no one will ever point to how I behaved and say I couldn't believe in your Jesus on judgment day because of the actions of that person.
58:27 --> 58:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And as a church, we need to embrace preaching and teaching to the Jewish people as much as we treat teaching preach to everyone else in love so that they don't use us in our behavior as an example to not believe in God.
58:50 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening to today's episode of Revive on today's sermon, Wes noted by Nick Garlin, another classic reader here on a Revive Thoughts and we're always we always love Nick Garlin, we appreciate him very much.
59:04 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Nick Garland's been great.
59:05 --> 59:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned before I got to meet him because of this show when we were traveling in the States a few years back and it was a great breakfast with him.
59:11 --> 59:19 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a really cool guy so we're very grateful for the many episodes he has read for us and I can't wait for future episodes read by Nick as well.
59:20 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you heard this show, I hope you enjoyed it.
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59:27 --> 59:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely maybe a little unique in that, oh, you know, I don't know that there are a lot of people dealing with the question of whether Jews should be hexiled from England or not as much today.
59:36 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_02]: But certainly the idea that we Christians are called to love everybody to share the gospel with everybody.
59:40 --> 59:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And the question of how to treat Jewish people is still being heavily debated around the world.
59:45 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So in a lot of ways, this episode is actually quite quite timely.
59:48 --> 59:50 [SPEAKER_02]: even if it was accidental in that way.
59:50 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I just thought that the speech was really interesting then cool.
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